alter communication

Witches Being Misunderstood is an Understatement

As I research this brilliant topic of Wiccan practices, origins, and history- lm learning of how stereotyped Im raised to believe witches and witchcraft alike are. Here’s some examples and rebuddles of what I mean…


Who has ever claimed that was the point… Because I do not follow Christian beliefs to a T doesn’t make me a worshipper of satan. These claims were made by Christians who believed the worship of ANYTHING besides “God” (the big guy in the white robe) is their devil.

“Dont do black magick on me!”

 Anyone who has ever been remotely freaked out thinking we would curse their soul or ruin their lives with magic, has obviously never read the Wiccan Rede… what was it again? “An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will”? Huh…

“Eye of *animal*, Wing of *bird*” 

These ingredients aren’t literal, at all… Although my young, shameless self believed it to be, these are just names made up for herbs, plants, and flowers that are ingredients to remedies witches didn’t want abused.

“Why don’t you carry your broom to fly on?” 

This one makes me laugh. Woman used to literally ride broomsticks… maybe it’s a long story but people wanted to use an LSD like ointment and it was most affective on arm pits and … genitals. So they would lather up the broom handle and well… ride the broom into the night causing hallucinations. Weird shit right?

“You’re too colourful to be a witch” 

How? Did I miss the dress code assembly? Because I can wear whatever the fuck I want. Being Wiccan is positive and peaceful and colours have magick their own. If a witch does decide to wear only black, good for them- black means protection, safety, and grounding (amongst other things).

“Where’s your black cat?” 

Cats were once worshipped as symbols of multiple goddesses. In the beginning of the agricultural age, people brought cats with them where they went to ward off mice. Kittens were even wedding presents. Men went to war and women were stuck with the cat and were often widowed… since the woman lived alone- she was also likely to be accused of witchcraft. The Pope also claimed cats were satanic (?) so cats were burned alive - just like witches… but then the mice and rat population went sideways and here comes the Black Plague! Jokes on you - “Whatever you do shall be returns to you three times over”.

So here’s my explanation on stereotypes through research and the ability to look things up and not assume. These are based off of personal experience, first reactions… I also stuck to Wiccan beliefs along with my own personal thrown in the first one (sorry). There are witches out side of Wiccan who do worship Satan and that don’t follow the Rede but this is all biased. Correct me if I’m wrong anywhere here- I apologize already!

Blessed Be! )O(

Wilford vs Darkiplier?

So looking through all the discussions on “Markiplier TV”, I have seen quite a few people talking about how Dark “respects” Wilford. Which yes, he does say that.


What was one of the main characteristics of Dark that Mark talked about?

That he is manipulative.

He even goes as far as to call Wilford a nickname, “Will”. In an almost sickenly sweet way. As much as I would like to believe that he called him that because deep down they really are friends, I can’t deny the thought that would just /sell/ his whole team player act. From watching “A Date with Markiplier” it is also heavily implied that Dark can and does get jealous from time to time. In the older videos he did make some appearances, but only short ones, whereas Wilford got some videos all to himself. Maybe he still holds a grudge?

Yes, Dark did get to have long appearances in “A Date with Markiplier”. But Wilford was still there. Also Mark. He wants his /own/ spotlight.

After all he wasn’t in any of the segments from the show either. Another reason why he rejected Wilfords idea perhaps?

Although I, in no way say that, Wilford is unaware of this. Dark and Will have been around for about the same time as eachother. He /knows/ him. And maybe he has a plan of his own for when Dark reveals his true intentions?

(Please be easy on me this is my first time posting any sort of theory 😂)

Anti Theory

What if Jack doesn’t actually exist? What if Anti made him up to gain an audience and expand his own influence? Every time we see Anti we always think he’s making an appearance so that we all know he’s there or that he’s breaking through Jack’s videos but what if most of the time it’s just Anti losing his facade? He tries so hard to hide the manic episodes to keep us distracted from the truth. He uses Jack as a way of making us susceptible to his will because Jack is just so easy to like. Being Jack takes a lot of effort, though, so occasionally we see him break character, especially in games that really speak to him. What if some day we are all so captivated by Jack that Anti no longer needs to keep up appearances? What if Anti manages to infect us all and takes open control?

Where are my wings? Where are my feathers?

Where is the wind against my body, my skin?

Where are my talons and fangs and eyes, how am I to hunt and fest on my prey?

Where is my body, and who is that looking at me..?

anonymous asked:

hey. do people with did literally hear voices? is psychosis required?

Not necessarily, no. Internal communication for individuals with DID or OSDD-1 can be complex and varied. Some individuals have no direct internal communication at all. They may black out or lose time whenever an alter is present, or they may remain co-conscious but have no ability to communicate with the alter present or may not even recognize that they switched until later. Other individuals may experience their alters more through passive influence. For example, they may simply “know” or “feel” what their alters are intending to communicate. They may also experience visualizations, impressions of sounds, sensations, emotions, or urges which are communications or bleedthrough from alters. Some systems may experience “made thoughts” in which they simply have a thought that feels ego-alien and which they can attribute to an alter. Many systems experience some mix of these methods.

Even when someone with DID or OSDD-1 does “hear” their alters, this is different from psychosis. Individuals who are psychotic attribute normal internal processes to outside forces. Individuals with DID and OSDD-1 are generally aware that what they’re hearing isn’t due to thoughts being literally beamed into their heads, telepathy, or whatever else. As well, someone with DID or OSDD-1 who “hears” their alters may not literally hear external sounds. Instead, they may be referring to “hearing” their parts in the same way that you “hear” your own internal voice or imagine the voices of others. 

I hope that this helps!

My alters don’t seem to want to be acknowledged or addressed. In fact, the fronter seems to get angrier by the fact that someone is trying to address them by their name. I thought I had better system communication than this. I thought we were all on the same page, more or less. But it seems they are still trying to fly under the radar.

Journaling and therapy have helped, but not as much as I thought it had.

Date a girl whose been in a coma for 20 years but can use her psychic reality warping powers to alter her environment and communicate with you. You’ll just have to deal with the fact that you can’t cuddle with her and instead have to cuddle with one of the many proxy bodies she made out of anything she could find.

Date a girl who hopes, for the world’s sake, that she never awakens from her coma.

usage of “alterous” vs “platonic” in aro discourse

i hesitate to post this at all*, but i’ve been casually mulling it over for a little while now and am getting no where in keeping this to myself, so here goes nothing…

there’s a relatively new word going around on Tumblr: alterous.

from this post by @alterous-albatross

What is Alterous Attraction?
Alterous attraction is a type of attraction which cannot be described as entirely romantic or platonic. It is described as a desire for emotional closeness.

What is Alterous Orientation?
Much like sexual and romantic orientation, alterous orientation is defined by whom you have the attraction towards. This being the case, the same prefixes apply.

i have mixed feelings about how this term is being used/described at present… it seems to have been coined to fill a void or disconnect that some people feel exists when using the word “platonic” to describe attraction in a way that is “more than just friends” but still not “romantic”.

i feel like this is a wonderful thing as such a word has long been needed, but at the same time i have reservations?

up until this point, i feel like many people within the aro community have been talking about & working towards awareness of the exact type of attraction that is being described now as alterous, however people have already been using “platonic (or emotional) attraction” to mean what alterous means for years. i feel like a notable chunk of aro awareness efforts have been about combating the “platonic” = “just friends” normative assumptions enforced by society, but now i see various posts aimed at alterous awareness pretty much supporting that very idea by positioning alterous attraction on a binary spectrum between platonic and romantic attraction, where alterous attraction is a step above platonic attraction, often with the consequences of equating platonic attraction with “just” friendship.

Gaby of @alterous-albatross attempted to address this problem, but i’m still rather miffed by it… not just because of how it positions platonic attraction, but also because of how it positions romantic attraction. it feels like a disservice to the years of effort that have been made to combat society’s assumption that platonic relationships aren’t necessarily the same as friendships nor are they a step below romantic relationships.

and don’t get me wrong, it is undeniable that how the word “platonic” is sometimes used within aro (and ace) spaces doesn’t always line up with what society at large understands and uses the word to mean, and that that is a large part of the problem. a problem that obviously alterous is trying to help with by distinguishing what some aros (among others) are referring to from what society refers to as “platonic”, but…

…at present raising awareness of alterous attraction seems to be at the costs of raising awareness about platonic attraction, even though that obviously is no one’s intention.

going forward, will “alterous” gain favor within the aro (and other) community(/ies)? will usage of the word “platonic” to describe the same thing fall by the way side? or perhaps it will be “platonic” that stands the test of time?

only time can tell, but in the meantime i’ll just throw up my hands in exasperation and refer to myself as bi and pan without the -romantic, -alterous, -platonic, or anything else because ugh. apathetic exasperation.

*disclaimer: i really am hesitant to post this at all since i don’t actively identify as aro spec (see: apathetic exasperation), but still… i feel enough of a tie to the aro community to really want to voice my feelings about this at least. ;(

Endogenic versus traumagenic? When should you consider trauma?

We never want to encourage people who have no reason to believe they have trauma to go down wildly speculative roads in order to disprove a negative (ie: the absence of trauma). That said, we worry that the DID/OSDD-1 communities and the non-trauma multiple communities are so separate that many people might accept non-traumatized multiple identities without exploring possible warning signs of trauma. If this doesn’t actually happen and it’s just our vain worry, then that’s great. In case it happens, here’s our post.

The most commonly accepted and most widely known explanation for multiplicity is that you (or perhaps others in your system) went through trauma. The concept of endogenic multiplicity is somewhat new in popular conception, and unfortunately psychology does not seem to have had a real look at it yet. Psychology’s lack of awareness does not make endogenic multiplicity invalid, but it does suggest that we presently do not have any stable, set-in-stone criteria for distinguishing DID/OSDD-1 from endogenic multiplicity. This is especially true if you consider that some self-identified endogenic multiple systems have members who have been through trauma (but see the trauma as unrelated to their multiplicity), and some DID/OSDD-1 systems believe the true source of their multiplicity came before the trauma or is somehow separate from it.

There are some situations where people have thought through their conditions and concluded that they fit neatly into the traumagenic or endogenic category. While this opinion is controversial among DID/OSDD-1 people, we believe it is possible for multiplicity to exist without trauma. That said, we imagine the multiplicity would look quite different from DID or OSDD-1. Many people we’ve met have experienced things that psychiatry does not quite account for, and they believe these experiences (and not physical or emotional trauma from this life and plane of existence) produced their multiplicity. Some say they co-incarnated with other spirits or are hosting walk-ins from other worlds. Others describe experiencing past-life trauma that split them on the level of the soul. We’ve also encountered people who believed that their multiplicity was a hard-wired neurodivergence rather than a developmental condition.

We don’t have any particular problem with non-traumatized people saying they’re multiple. However, we get worried when we see people claiming to be 100% trauma-free while showing symptoms and behaviors like:

  1. Black-out level dissociation.
  2. Difficulty communicating with alters that is significantly more intense than the struggle you had to get along with a fussy roommate in college.
  3. Serious walls or barriers preventing fluid communication between system members.
  4. Trigger responses to topics like sex, sexual abuse, genitals, members of a specific gender, certain relatives, child abuse, or other subjects that are commonly triggering to survivors of abuse.
  5. System members who seem like they stopped growing/aging/developing at a certain point in the body’s life.
  6. The presence of alters who deliberately emotionally, physically, or sexually harm other alters as if it is their job to stifle your progress and make your lives difficult.

Not every DID/OSDD-1 system will have these signs, but I sadly have seen many of these in certain endogenic systems I’ve encountered. If you are experiencing these things, the following are not conclusive proof that there’s no trauma:

“Between the five of us, none of us remember any abuse.” Basically the whole point of disorders like DID and OSDD-1 is concealing trauma. If you are sure there are exactly five people in your system and there is no one who suspects or remembers any trauma, then it might be reasonable to conclude that there isn’t/wasn’t any. However, there are a couple things to double-check for before you conclude that. First off, are you absolutely sure that you five are the only ones? If not, make sure you haven’t been neglecting any dark/foreboding/unpleasant parts of the system where members may have different stories than the ones you five know. Second, are you sure that members of your system cannot disconnect from certain unpleasant emotions, memories, or experiences without fully switching? Sometimes individual alters will split or simply lose touch with memories, feelings, and emotions in response to trauma. This can leave five separate people who are each convinced there is no trauma even though they all went through trauma.

“Sure, we were pretty unhappy as young kids, but nothing we experienced was ‘bad enough’ to count as abuse.” A lot of systems who say this eventually reveal that they were seriously emotionally abused, that they were neglected as young children (but not sexually abused), that they experienced sexual abuse they consider “less serious” than experiences they’ve read about on survivor blogs, that their parents hit them in a “normal” way, or that they went through something else shocking and personally violating like terrifying and painful medical procedures as young children, losing loved ones at a young age, etc. ISST-D says that DID can come from physical, sexual, or other trauma inflicted in childhood. This leaves a wide range of possibility for what could “count” as “enough” trauma.

“Our parents were good people.” Having good parents does not guarantee that you were not traumatized. Were you ever alone with people (of any age) who were not your parents? It is also important to realize that many dissociative systems have members who idealize their parents and other caregivers after dissociating from trauma. It’s not necessary to investigate your parents if you all feel there is no evidence that they physically, emotionally, or sexually abused you (and this includes times when it “wasn’t that bad” or “was normal” or when they claimed it was somehow your fault). It is, however, a good idea to make sure that you are safe.

“My therapist/dad/friend/cousin/psych professor/etc told me I seem normal.” This was one of our reasons for doubting there was early childhood trauma. It’s pretty common for everyone to think they’re an expert when it comes to other people’s trauma and health in general. However, even a therapist cannot know you better than you know yourself. If you are showing signs of trauma, it may be worth exploring those regardless of what this person thinks or thought.

We think it’s fully possible for multiplicity to be endogenic. However, we also know it’s possible for people to doubt or deny or even lose all awareness of their own trauma even while they are visibly switching or obviously getting triggered/otherwise being affected by trauma. Don’t let others tell you who to be or what to believe about your past, but also don’t discount the possibility of trauma if there are signs that it’s there.

The answer to almost every alter problem

Talk to them




If you can’t find a way to form a civil relationship with each other you won’t be able to move forward in your life.

Your alters exist in the same brain as you. That’s the most in common thing you can ever have with another person! Talk to them. Form a positive relationship.

You have a violent alter? Find someone in the system who can endure them and form a communication. You have a scared little? Find someone who has patience and comfort them. You have a control freak host? Find someone they relax around.

If you can’t find anyone to do that, then it’s up to you to do that job.

There’s no good reason to stall being the person your alters need. You’re scared? Suck it up. You’re hurt? They are, too. You are the only person you can rely on to do this job right.

If you don’t know what kind of people your alters are. That’s your big chance! Your relationship is neutral. Don’t wait until it turns sour. Write hello in a notebook. Say hi to the mirror. Think into the inside word “hey, how are you?” However you manage to do it, start talking. There is no better way to move forward.

If everyone in the system pairs up or finds at least one friend. Or even at least one alter they can communicate with. Your system will be so much better off.

Life is so much better when everyone is holding each other’s hand. There’s no need to wait around for your problems to get worse.


deadsrobinscircle  asked:

Hello ! I have a character who, because of a curse when they were born, is female during the day and male at night. But they have been forced during their whole life to act as if Day! And Night! were two different person (twins actually). Do you think after 19 years of life this way, they would develope a kind of dissociative personality disorder ? Do you have any tips on how to write this ? Besides, I'm french and there is no "they" neutral pronouns, so it's very hard for me to dissociate them

Thanks for your question, dear!  This is definitely a complex issue, but I have some links + some personal advice for you…

A brief disclaimer: I don’t have any experience with gender dysphoria, but I’ve done some general research on dysphoria and its relationship with dissociative identity disorder. I do, however, have personal experience with a person who has DID.  She’d probably lose her shit if she saw this, but since none of you know me, I think it’s safe to share…

So my mother has dissociative identity disorder.  It’s not something we talk about much anymore – she’s in therapy and keeps a lot of it to herself.  But I’ve experienced the ramifications of it growing up with her, and from the things I’ve heard/read from her therapy.  And it’s important to me that something like this gets realistic representation in fiction.

Anyway, I’ll write this in two sections, if that’s all right.  I’ll include what I’ve learned about it personally, as well as some articles for you to read on your own.

1. What causes dissociative identity disorder (DID)?

As you’ll find along with other information here, DID is commonly caused by some of the following:

  • Recurrent episodes of severe physical, emotional or sexual abuse (often in childhood).
  • Absence of safe and nurturing resources to overwhelming abuse or trauma.
  • Ability to dissociate easily.
  • Development of a coping style that helped during distress and the use of splitting as a survival skill.

I’ll address these points, and how they’re relevant to your story.  Firstly, while DID is most common in victims of child abuse, it’s certainly not exclusive to these cases.  The reason that it trends so high in child abuse is because DID results from a feeling of powerlessness and a lack of a safe environment, both of which are more easily achieved when living with one’s abuser.  Adults are less likely to develop this as they have outlets to be themselves and release this stress, instead of it pushing inward and fragmenting them that way.

It’s important to note also that not just any case of abuse will result in this kind of coping mechanism.  DID only arises when it is useful to the individual’s survival – for instance, if a child is physically abused whenever they stand up for themselves or talk back to their abuser, this part of their personality – the indignant part – may break off into its own fragment.  The remaining personality learns to come out when it is needed, in order to avoid abuse.

The other aspect of this disorder is depersonalization, another result of protecting oneself from abuse.  Depersonalization creates a feeling of the mind floating out of the body – even looking down on themselves from somewhere else – in order to isolate oneself from the abusive situation.  Sometimes depersonalization happens at random times post-abuse, creating a surreal or dissociative episode, in which the individual can even look into the mirror and fail to recognize themselves.  Again, this is typically due to strong abusive experiences.

So how does this relate to your character’s situation?
Well, it really depends on the history of the character.  Whether the character suffers abuse or not may be irrelevant – the most important factor is stress, often combining with other mental health issues, which pressurizes your character’s mind into compartmentalizing itself.  The identity confusion of switching between genders day and night could create enough personal dissociation to develop DID, but there are a couple of things to understand here:

1) There’s a difference between moods/states of mind and dissociative identities.  Your character may experience confusion and different “shades of self” without completely branching off into different parts (commonly called “alters” by the DID community).  Fragmented personality comes from a survival state of mind; your character’s situation may cause dysphoria, mood swings, manic/depressive phases, and/or depersonalization without developing into full-blown DID.  Be sure this is exactly what you’re looking for, because it’s a pretty extensive disorder and will take some research.
2) DID is largely related to the environment cultivating it.  Developing DID requires a certain amount of isolation, pressure, and instability.  A character with a strong support system or environmental constants is less likely to develop DID.  Consider the state of your character’s life: do they have friends, family, roommates, neighbors, or pets that can contribute to grounding them to their identity?  Do they live/work/study in an environment that is consistent despite their gender (e.g. working second shift, studying at the same school, or interacting with the same people with both identities)?  These factors make DID without abuse even less likely.
3) DID is the result of stress and confusion.  If your character was cursed from birth, this lifestyle would eventually become normal for them, I’d think.  Of course, it would be difficult to manage, but unless they undergo abuse or high stress because of it, I’m not sure they’d develop two identities from it.  In fact, I’d think bouncing between presented genders from a young age may normalize the experience.  Of course, that’s just an opinion and certainly not fact.

2. How do I realistically write a character with DID?

A note right here first: This isn’t my call to make as someone who’s never had DID, but I don’t know if I’d advise you to go ahead and write this.  These kinds of stories are best written by people who have experienced the disorder themselves (or at least have a level of psychology education).  I mean, as a rule I try not to discourage anyone’s ideas – but this is a disorder that already gets so much sh!t in the media…

Anyway.  If you decide that this is something you want to write, you’re gonna want to get it right – which means you’ll have to do some research.  Here is where I drop a bunch of links:

That’s all I’ve got for now.  If you have any further questions, my inbox is open, of course :)  I wish you luck in whatever you wind up doing with this character!  Thanks again, and good luck!

If you need advice on general writing or fanfiction, you should maybe ask me!

To any alters who feel like they're worthless

I want to tell you a thing.

You exist because you were needed to help deal with something that couldn’t be dealt with without you. You are needed. In fact, you’re some of the only people in the world that can say that they exist entirely because someone could not live without them.

If that’s worthless, or useless, I think the rest of us really have to step up our game.

- K Hart

Bootsie Life | #18 | 16.12.12 | Inside

-this comic is about Dissociative Identity Disorder- ok 2 rb if you dont have DID-

-this comic covers the interaction and private lives of traumagenic alters in a DID headspace- this is the area we exist in when we arent controlling the body-

-please understand this is not make believe or delusions- this is very real to us and was created by our brain as a means of increasing communication between alters- we have relationships and lives in this space to help us handle outer life- 

-this post is NOT about kin or imaginary friends or original characters- 

anonymous asked:

can therapy help me and my alters have an easier time figuring out how many of us there are? at some point one of us wrote that there are/were about ten, but i have a hard time conceptualizing that. or really thinking about it too much at all.

Yeah, therapy will likely help with that! Working on communication and/or collecting information about your alters over time will also help. It’s rare that every alter in a system is equally active at the same time, so you might need to collect that information for a while to know about them. 

Take your time with it and don’t rush anything you’re not comfortable with.