Hello, I was wondering whether the flower meanings in Japanese culture are the same as the Western versions for this month's flowers. I believe they are red clover, and Canturbury bells, also known as campanula. I suppose they were white campanula if that makes a difference. Are you of the same opinion? I saw a post (yours?) discussing them last night and wondered.
Hi, sorry for my late reply!
Mmm, I personally think the flower on the last two pages was white clover rather than red clover because the flowers look white to me xD (if they were supposed to be dark pink, then I think Yana would have added some screentones to indicate a darker colour, so I assume it’s white!)
And in the Japanese language of flowers white clover has the following meanings:
happiness, promise, ’please think of me’, ‘be mine’ and revenge
The white clover was also used in this cover with Lizzy (ch58):
So I guess the white clover symbolises the happy childhood of the twins and Lizzy altogether.
As for the flower in this panel
I, too, think it’s Campanula! I was a bit confused at first since the meanings in the Japanese language of flowers (”gratitude” & “constancy”) didn’t really seem to match the panel/Tanaka’s line about the twins, but Campanula also stands for “remorse” and “the life that couldn’t be saved” (守れなかった命), so maybe that’s what Yana wanted symbolise with these flowers.
I think ”remorse” and “the life that couldn’t be saved” match real Ciel and our Ciel’s relationship quite well, particularly since I had always thought that our Ciel’s line in this scene in the GW arc
I have a question: but is there some meaning to the sylleblossoms? Like does it have some type of symbolic meaning? I mean, it's a very beautiful flower and it represents the sweet bond between Noctis and Luna but... I'm a little lost. I felt like it was supposed to have a deeper meaning... what you think? ^_^ have an awesome day!
Oh yes, I absolutely think there is a bigger meaning to the Sylleblossom then just the bond it represents between Noctis and Luna, which is of course very sweet but also a common form of love symbolism etc. Now just a little warning I am gonna nerd a bit about colours and design thingies here, because I love your question! xD
Now do take in account that some of these statements also involve my own interpretation and thoughts. The Sylleblossom is a designed mixture of 3 other flowers: lavender, nigella, and iris (according to the wiki).
Now what do these 3 flowers and their structure and colours stand for? The colour Lavender represents royalty and is used in real life different cultures as a status thing (higher class, refinement etc ).
The Iris stands for many things as well, for example: royalty, faith, wisdom, hope, valor, and is named after the Greek Goddess ‘Iris’. A messenger to the gods who was thought to use the rainbow as a bridge between heaven and earth. I kinda make the connection here to the task and duties of the Oracles of being the bridge between the humans and the astrals.
The Nigella has some very interesting meanings and symbolism to it (in what we saw back into the game). It represents (has the symbolism) the chains that bind people together – usually in love, but sometimes in bitterness. They are also said to express perplexity and intrigue, and are often given as gifts to tell the recipient that the giver is fascinated, or simply has a crush. Luna giving Noctis a sylleblossom into the notebook might have been an indication of her, having a crush on him.
We can also see blue and white. Blue can be compared with Lavender, but above all it represents calm, trust, responsibility and From a color psychology perspective, blue is reliable and responsible.
This color exhibits an inner security and confidence. You can rely on it to take control and do the right thing in difficult times. It has a need for order and direction in its life.This is a color that seeks peace and tranquility above everything else, promoting both physical and mental relaxation.
White, which we see a lot in the house of the Oracle represents purity, innocence, goodness, heaven, safety, brilliance, illumination, understanding, cleanliness, faith, beginnings, spirituality, possibility, humility, sincerity, protection, softness, and perfection etc etc etc.
So, we can conclude that these flowers were carefully selected into the design process of creating the Sylleblossoms and the different meanings behind them, which are all combined into this fictional flower.
Now the Sylleblossom, is a symbol of the royal lineage of the Oracle (royal family). We can see on the front the Cosmogony cover of what could be the very first Oracle, just selected by Bahamut. Holding a bouquet of what appears to be Sylleblossoms:
It also can be seen on the Oracle ascension coins:
Even the late Queen Sylva wears of what appears to be patterns of Sylleblossoms upon her robe:
So yes, there is a lot more to this flower then just the bond between Noctis and Luna. But if we take into account what this flower stands for, and how Luna basically shared a Sylleblossom with him, could be a indication of giving a part of herself to him (spiritually of course). Since it represents her existence line.
But just think about her death scene too, they walk among a field of Sylleblossoms, could it all have been part of her soul fading away kind of symbolism? It’s truly fascinating and awesome to think about, as that scene has so much symbolism to it. We see through out the game that after her death, her presence and spirit is represented with falling petals of the sylleblossom.
It is the symbol of the Oracle.
Anyways anon, thank you so much for this question and I hope I answered your question a bit with this.
she’s a wood elf druid and has a goofy southernish accent and has a little cottage outside the walls of the city where she grows only carrots and dresses like a lady from a crystal kitsch shop and killed a beholder without taking a SINGLE HIT!!! i love her very much
Seungcheol - Queen Ann’s Lace Most commonly, Queen Ann’s Lace is used as a filter flower to help showcase the beauty of other flowers, much like Seungcheol is always there to uphold and bring out the best in his fellow members as their leader. The meaning of the flower in flower language is sanctuary, which I think is something Seungcheol provides to the members when they’re at low points.
Jeonghan - Lotus Blossom I choose it because it is one of the most aesthetically iconic flowers, beautiful and elegant like Jeonghan. But also the flower represents perseverance and beauty that comes from within, it represents a person who emits a glow from both how they look and their personality. I think Jeonghan is a perfect symbol of that as well.
Joshua- Lily of the Valley Associated with purity of the heart and even the Virgin Mary herself, I chose this flower because Joshua, no matter what, has always seemed to be a sort of voice of consciousness and reason. His aura for me is one of someone who may be an adult, but is still really lighthearted and naive - in a pure and wholesome way.
Jun- Snapdragon The flower I chose has a double-sided meaning of grace but also deviousness. Like Jun, the visual of the flower is really striking and strong and you can’t help but keep looking at it and I think Jun evokes this kind of visual curiosity in people.
Hoshi - Primrose Patience and belonging, along with the phrase “I can’t live without you” are associated with the primrose and in a lot of ways Hoshi has brought a sense of belonging to the other members through his patience with choreography and his natural ability to kind of take some of the younger members under his wing. He’s someone that is irreplaceable within Seventeen.
Wonwoo - Mock Orange Interestingly enough the whiteness of the flower which is supposed to symbolize purity, was actually taken by the Victorians as a means of deceit - this flower stands for someone who make look gentle, but has another side to them - but not necessarily a bad one. Wonwoo, he can look cold and unapproachable, but we all know that he’s far from it. His looks are not the only thing about him. Also, this flower is known to have a calming effect, Wonwoo’s sleepy nature reminded me of that.
Woozi - Apple Blossom This flower deals with the heart’s desire and has the ability to make someone feel good. Woozi has followed his passion tirelessly and you can see that making music for seventeen, really makes him feel good. I think people might say that Woozi doesn’t lift the mood, but I would disagree. I think he’s a big part of the reason seventeen has succeeded and will continue to succeed.
DK - Sunflower Probably the most self explanatory, no flower is more bright and vibrant and symbolic of happiness than the sunflower. DK’s shining personality and smile are a perfect match to this flower.
Mingyu - Foxglove Aside from the fact that this flower is long in nature (very much like Mingyu), the flower is associated with magic and creativity. Mingyu has always come off as someone that can easily charm others, without ever really straining himself to do so. Like the foxglove flower is addicting to bees, Seventeen is addicted to Mingyu.
The8 - Periwinkle The flower stands for blossoming friendships and achieving your dreams, two of the things that The8 has experienced through his joining of Seventeen. The simple, but enchanting gentleness of the flowers visual remind me of the quiet boy who’s become a star.
Seungkwn- Love-in-the-Mist A very romantic flower that comes in very vibrant colors, it is a flower that matches Seungkwan’s personality. It is the first flower you’d see in any bouquet, much like you see Seungkwan present himself at the forefront of Seventeen.
Vernon- Cosmos The cosmos is a flower that you give to someone when you silently want to declare your devotion, and I think Vernon is that kind of person. He’s not always verbal with his feelings, but you can see it in his actions. The cosmos also symbolizes modesty and I think Vernon is a gentleman by nature.
Dino- Bluebells This flower is associated with consistency which is something Dino is known for, his constant and energetic effort to do the best at what he loves. He’s a hardworking maknae who will never let his team down, they can count on his constant loyalty.
I spent ten months as a florist TIME TO BITCH ABOUT THE SUPPOSED WESTALLEN FLORAL COLORS because what is this shit
listen I’m hoping this is a colorist issue (like cisco’s pale skin wtf) but…..what the hell is that bouquet/boutonnière combo
actually it’s more like ‘what the hell is that boutonnière’ why is it entirely fucking yellow I mean if you want a yellow rose, sure, that’s normal but why the fuck is the baby’s breath also yellow shit’s hideous that’s not something that’s done’
and it doesn’t even match the white of Iris’s bouquet like….if you’re gonna have wedding flowers, you at least need a unified color scheme. Yellow bout and white bouquet? what is that shit. like, if you’re not going to coordinate with the bouquet, at least have it match your tie! this isn’t the way to shoehorn in Flash colors, y’all.
AS IF BARRY ALLEN WOULDN’T HAVE HAD A UNIFIED COLOR SCHEME FOR HIS MARRIAGE TO THE LOVE OF HIS LIFE
Sory to make this request so late but I couldn’t find any inspiration until now!The years where Charoix was on school was around 2005 I think?So guess you can say this is a party made on Luna Nova with the theme of the 90’.Hope you enjoy it!
If anyone has any requests please ask me.
Chariot hummed to herself as she finished brushing her hair,double checking her white dress for any strand of red hair.
That night Luna Nova would organise a party with the theme of the 90’, something which everyone found exciting.They could go in pairs or alone with their friends.
Chariot could be a dolt and not have too many friends from her clumsiness,but tonight she wouldn’t go alone or with them.
Tonight,Chariot would go to the dance with Croix Meiridies,the prodigy of the school and one of the greatest student in Luna Nova.
The knock on the door made her grin as she went to open it,finding there the one and only Croix.
The purple haired witch was wearing a white suit,the collar a fiery red like Chariot’s hair and the rest white.In the belt,unlike normal,rested a red sash,the one the clumsy witch wore.Looking closely,Chariot saw the shirt which was white with purple flowers.
“I guess you also wore my sash Chariot?”asked Croix smiling,arms crossed on her chest.Chariot blushed pink as she touched the purple sash on her dress.
To match Croix her dress was also white,the short slevees red which matched with the small red gems around the dress.The colors clashed beautifully with the purple sash which also held her wand,as it always should.
“Well you also are wearing mine Croix!We should match after all”replied Chariot as she got out of the room and closed the door.
The other girl only smiled softly,before coughing and blushing pink,taking out something from her jacket’s pocket.
“Chariot.I…I need to give you something”she said,making the other girl stop and turn around,her eyes widening as she looked at what Croix held on her hands.
“I read somewhere that usually the boy would give the girl this to wear on her hand.And since you are the one wearing the dress and looking more… Beautiful i decided to do it for you”the last part was said with a lower voice from embarasment,but Chariot still heard them.
What Croix had on her hands was some type of bracelet,but done with different flowers.Chariot could note the four pink carnations which had around ivys and on the middle there were four daisies and another flower which she didn’t know.
“What is that flower in the middle?”asked Chariot as Croix was putting the bracelet on her knuckle.
“Heliotrope.Kinda hard to find around here but I found it when I was on the city”replied Croix and hummed as she released her hand,now the flowers on Chariot’s knuckle.
“Let’s go now,shall we?”the red haired witch nodded her head smiling and took Croix’s hand as they started walking,missing how red Croix became and her eyes softened behind the glasses.
The room where they had decided to hold the party was bigger than any of their classes,a disco ball on the middle being the only light,and with magic it managed to give light to the entire room.
Everyone was dancing and laughing,just having a good time.Croix could see her own teammates and also Chariot’s,but her attention was stolen as a slow song came on.
“Hey Chariot”said girl turned her head and looked at Croix who was scratching her nose,a habit of hers when she was nervous.
“What is it Croix?”she asked.The prodigy only bit her lip an raised her hand towards Chariot,the smaller girl tilting her head confused.
“Do you want to…dance with me now?”the question was said so slowly and timidly that Chariot could hardly believe this was the same girl who answered every question confidently and did every magic with no problem or nervousness.
But a smile appeard on her lips as she gave the girl her hand,Croix looking at her suprised.
“Of course you dummy!Come on!”the reply made her smile and they both walked to the dance floor,finding a calmer spot to dance.
Like they had years doing this, Chariot put her hands on Croix’s shoulders and Croix put hers on the small on her back.
The moment was so calm and fragile that Croix was scared even the tiniest of sounds or movements would break it.
She had time wanting to do this,just dance her night away with Chariot,to see the red head smile and laugh freely,nothing to stop her happiness.
“Croix,does everything have a meaning?”the question caught her off guard,and she looked at Chariot who looked back at her.
“Well,actions are supposed to have meanings,in the end life has a meaning,books have meanings.Nature may also have a meaning.Why do you ask?”the reply made Chariot giggle,as Croix always managed to have an answer for everything she asked her.
“Just asking since I was curious if flowers have a meaning”she said.Croix blushed red and averted her eyes,making Chariot slightly suspicious.
“Do flowers have a meaning Croix?”the prodigy only looked around for a moment,before nodding her head.
“I told you everything has a meaning.Of course flowers also do have one.But that is something I haven’t really read about”replied Croix.
Chariot only sighed and moved closer to Croix,leaning her head against her shoulder.
“That is too bad.These flowers look amazing”Croix only shrugged and Chariot smiled when she hugged her closer to herself, continuing to dance slowly.
Now,years had passed since that night.But that certain memory,those certain flowers still remained alive for Chariot,who now called herself Ursula.
Her eyes softened as she looked down and saw Croix asleep,her head leaned on her arms as books about Wagandea were scattered around her.
Putting a blanket on top of her,Chariot smiled as Croix snuggled closer to it,but her attention went at a picture and a certain bracelet the witch had close to her hands.
Her eyes widened as she looked at their younger version,smiling and dancing.Beside it,the same flowers Chariot had that night rested,still on a perfect form from a spell done to them.
The red haired witch smiled and managed to gather Croix on her arms as she made her way to her bed,flowers and pic remaining behind but their meaning stuck on Chariot’s head.
Pink carnations are the symbol of not forgetting,flowers which you can give to a lover or friend as a sign that you will never forget them.
Daisies symbolise innocence,of a person of feelings.
Ivy is a green flower which from it’s way of living with the tree, symbolises a bond which can never be broken.
Heliotrope is the flower that a lover would give to their significant other,as a way to show them their devoted affection and feelings.This also can be used as a way to confess your feelings of love.
21st of November, 2014 - Of Orch Dorks and Band Geeks
Alfred F. Jones was a proud band geek.
He loved his high school band class and his fellow band geeks. Being in band meant playing pop tunes and patriotic marches at half-time shows. It also meant cool stuff like occasional road trips with the football team (heck, yeah!) and days spent giggling with the other freshmen about being “tromboners.” The absolute best part was summer band camp and some very enjoyable memories that he had sworn he would never mention in public ever again.
So Alfred didn’t understand why he was expected to play with the orchestra dorks, the epitome of uncool, for the next month. The kids in orchestra were boring and dull. They liked classical music and dressed up for their concerts. Bach? More like blugh. Unfortunately, the orchestra conductor had decided that she wanted to play some selections from the Nutcracker Suite for the school’s winter concert. Much to Alfred’s displeasure, it turned out that a trombone was technically part of a full-sized orchestra, making him the newest, honorary, orchestra member. If he had known, he would have picked a different instrument back in grade school. (He still had a hankering to play the guitar and a gnawing feeling that Guitar Hero didn’t really count.)
So it came to pass that Alfred found himself slouching his way to the back of the orchestra room, tuning up his trombone, and praying for a black-out. They would have to evacuate and he could spend the class period doing something more enjoyable than playing a few stupid notes in a stupid classical sonnet or concerto or whatever-the-hell they were called. Lost in his funk, it took Alfred a few minutes to realize that he actually recognized the song that one of the violinists was practicing in front of him. Suddenly, he felt his interest perk up.
“Whoa, is that from Lord of the Rings?” Alfred asked, turning his music stand to the side so he could lean closer. The string solo abruptly ended as the violinist glanced back. He was blond and skinny and looked a couple of years older than Alfred, probably making him a senior. He was kind of cute in a way that the young American teenager was still trying to understand. Alfred grinned and continued, “I wish we were playing that instead. I mean, geez, ‘Waltz of the Flowers,’ can we get any more gay?”
The violinist tucked the instrument underneath his arm and arched a very bushy eyebrow. “I like waltzing and flowers,” he said dryly. “I also prefer men, but I’m not sure what that has to do with waltzing or flowers. So no, for what it’s worth, I don’t think I could 'get’ any more gay.”
Alfred shook his head and laughed. “I didn’t mean it in—”
The other teen continued to talk. “In fact, if they handed out grades for gayness I would have an A plus. Or I suppose I should call it a Gay plus?”
“Dude, chill. I didn’t mean it in a bad way,” Alfred repeated, finally finishing his sentence. He wondered why the other teenager was so uptight. (He learned later that the older teen’s name was Arthur, he was incredibly anal about grammar and punctuality, and he didn’t play the violin, he played the viola. Alfred also received an hour-long lecture on why violas were superior to violins, which went in one ear and out the other.)
Arthur sighed. “I suppose this is the part where you tell me that you have a gay friend or perhaps bisexual tendencies yourself and were only making conversation because you think me attractive and assume that your inane twaddle is preferable to Tchaikovsky.”
Alfred nearly dropped his trombone. “Shit! How’d you know?” He hurriedly glanced around the room to make sure that none of the other orchestra members had heard. “Don’t tell anyone, I haven’t even told my brother!”
An awkward silence stretched between the two of them as the other musicians continued to tune their instruments in the background. It occurred to Alfred, a little too late, that the older teen had merely been trying to get a rise out of him and accidentally hit a little too close to the mark. Despite the awkwardness, Arthur shot him a conspiratorial grin. “Don’t worry. There’s no shame in liking Tchaikovsky,” he murmured, before turning back to his music as the conductor called class to attention.
Breathing a sigh of relief, Alfred flipped open his music and decided that maybe he could learn to like orchestra class after all.
This. Right here. Is a poster for Advent Children. It features Tifa in Aerith’s church with the flowers all around.“
Whenever Cloud is shown with flowers a huge fuss is made about it and it usually circles into being part of the debate. Well, no, FUCK YOU. I am making a fuss about THIS picture. THIS PICTURE OF TIFA SURROUNDED BY FLOWER PETALS IN AERITH’S CHURCH. THIS IS A HUGE DEAL!!!
Why is this a big deal to me? Because I love Aerith and Tifa’s friendship and I will never reduce their friendship to something petty like fighting over a guy when the world’s in danger.
This picture is SUPER IMPORTANT. Not only does Tifa look insanely badass in it, but Aerith’s presence is in the picture as well.
I have seen every possible word picked apart, every phrase skewed to mean something different, every scene carefully nitpicked for SOMETHING to be brought up.
So I bring to you, the Tifa and Loz fight scene.
When the fight begins, Tifa makes the first move, forcing Loz out of the flower field!!!
Tifa tries to fight as far from the flower patch as possible. When she lands in the flower patch, she practically jumps over the whole thing. She doesn’t trample them or run through them, she jumps over them.
When Loz lands in the flowers Tifa PUNCHES him out of them.
The only time Tifa is ever in the flower field during this fight is whenever Loz attacks her, ALWAYS targeting her towards the flowers. The only time the flowers get hurt or trampled, is when Tifa is taking hits from Loz. Other than that, she fights outside of the patch.
The creator’s have said that there is a lot of symbolism within the movie, such as the angel statue and the wolf appearing. Although some of these were not given any actual meaning, the angel statue is meant to be symbolic nonetheless, but to what is up to the viewer.
This fight scene with Loz I believe also to be symbolic. Loz is a remnant of Sephiroth, and is suppose to be the characteristic of Sephy’s strength. Flower’s, of course the ones in the church, symbolize Aerith.
Loz also remarks on how he thinks the flowers are "gross” and we know that Sephy wasn’t particularly fond of Aerith.
Tifa fights away from the flowers, yet they still get trampled and hurt as Tifa gets beaten. I believe this to be symbolism of Tifa being hurt, Aerith is also hurting, but she can’t actively help Tifa. All she can do is be passive like the flowers.
The poster shows Tifa looking awesome, but surrounded by the petals, and the petals are also present during Tifa’s limit break in Dissidia 012.
As Tifa fights, Aerith is with her always. When Tifa is hurt, Aerith is hurt. The two fight together GIRL POWER against Loz/Sephiroth/Jenova.
This scene in the movie is a very meaningful one to me and my feelings on AerTi.
Imagine though, Persephone is just laying about in their living room and there would be flowers growing everywhere around her. Hades walks in like “What is this!? What have you done to the place, it’s supposed to be dark and gloomy! What are you doing?” and he picks up some flowers and they imediately turn to ash in his hands.
When he looks at Persephone and see’s the horrified look on her face his mean exterior melts into apologies and he tells her she can grow as many flowers as she likes and that he didn’t mean to kill the flowers, that it just happens when he touches them.
Also; She’d make Hades flower crowns but the flowers would dry up when they touched his head. His hair wouldn’t kill them as quickly as his hands so he’d try not to touch it at all
Do you have any reading suggestion for a witch interested in herbal magic(online sources,books) I am particularly interested in how a correspondance between a certain plant and a certain effect is established. Thanks, as always, for your great work
I personally believe that there’s no specific set of ways a plant can work. However there’s a general consensus among some plants working in certain ways, and I also believe you can make a plant have your own meaning given what it is used for or does.
The effect is established, in my view, when you decide that a particular herb is going to mean that particular thing in a spell. Rosemary, for example, can be used for cleansings or divination, or even both. Imposing your will and intention unto an herb as you use it should establish what that herb is supposed to do. Or likewise, the herb will manifest its magical property into a spell that you have already given meaning and purpose to.
Personally, I usually go with floriology, the “language of flowers,” as flowers have been given meanings over time to establish a form of communication.
There seems to be a general consensus that Roses mean love, or at least are related to relationships, as well as other flowers and plants, also wedding planning stuff tend to use a lot of flower symbolism.
Happy Halloween my dears! Frisk and I are on our way to trick-or-treat, I hope all of you have a wonderful evening.
((just wanted to do something nice for halloween~ i may not be around to do anything else tonight. Also, thank you all for 200+ followers! I can’t tell you guys how much it means to me. <3 Hopefully a ‘thank you’ drawing will come soon.))
I completely fell in love with gingerhaole’s handmade halos, so I wanted to do something with it! This was supposed to be Vana and Yavanna sharing a sisterly atmospheric moment (also, flowers and grapes - lots of ‘em), but if this means I accidentally start a ship I will rather just say you should think of them as random spirits of nature or whatever.
-punkguchi’s very very softly- Idek but I really wanted to do this for a long time cuz @yankasmiles is a really nice person and I still really love all that you do even though I practically dived off the planet when I’m now at another crossroads. Thank you for all you created.
I hope she’s doing well. Also the fandom. Have my very apologetic (but was very fun doing) baby yam yams
Also can I just say that yams needs MORE LOVE. PLEASE.