I’m just gonna throw this out here again
Don’t put african dwarf frogs with fish
just don’t do it
stop recommending them in betta tanks, stop putting them with small fish, stop putting them with shrimp, stop putting them with snails
put the dwarf frogs with dwarf frogs
I’ve been kinda left and right on this issue and taken it on a case to case basis but no it really just needs to stop
I’ve seen frogs get their front legs get torn off by bettas, I’ve seen frogs nip the crap out of betta fins, I’ve heard of shrimp eating the webbing off their toes, I’ve heard of frogs swallowing and choking on snails, frogs in community tanks are often malnourished and reclusive, I’ve seen many infections take place in our tanks at work from the guppies nipping their legs
And that is not to mention that the frogs prefer cooler temperatures than most tropical fish
The only benefit to putting frogs in a community tank is *yay* you get a frog
I used to take a stance of “I guess it’s okay on a case to case basis” but I’m putting my foot down as calling it negligent to mix dwarf frogs with fish
Imagine if I popped out and said something like “Yeah it should be fine to put a betta and a goldfish together as long as the tank is big enough, the betta shouldn’t pick on the goldfish at all”
Or what if I said “Yeah you can put a 3 spot gourami and an axolotl together, the gourami will probably be too big for the axolotl to eat, and if the gourami nips off its gills or legs they should grow back”
You’d be all over my ass about it with good reason, yeah?
This is the same situation. There is a huge host of possible issues that can arise from mixing the frogs with fish, and people seem to tip toe around them. I understand that it’s not easy to find good sources on ADF care, but after talking to enough frog keepers and hearing their stories, the evidence is there
That’s one thing I’ve noticed with a lot of pet keepers, for lack of better word, can be pretty heartless toward the types of animals they personally do not keep, and while that’s kind of mean to say, look at it like this
I’ve heard of a lot of people asking if it’s okay to throw a red earred slider in with their large cichlids, and a lot of fish keepers will say “you can try, but sometimes the turtle will attack the cichlids” without addressing the personal needs of the turtle
I’ve read turtle care sheets online which talk about mixing fish with them, and some care sheets will recommend african cichlids like yellow labs because they’re too fast for the turtle to catch, without addressing the needs of the african cichlids
When I got my 30 halfmoon and was asking for recommendations for fish to put in it, somebody recommended doing half water and half land and putting white clouds or rasboras in the water area and putting a chameleon on the land because the chameleon wouldnt hurt the fish, not addressing the needs of the chameleon
Once you start treating other animals as a side show or a decoration to add to the animals you already have, you really need to reconsider how you keep your pets
from now on any comments I get of “I put/have a frog with my betta and it worked fine” comments will now be taken as seriously as people who say their betta did fine in a bowl, don’t even go there with me, I’ve heard it a hundred times
Ultimately it’s just a dangerous idea and it’s putting the animals at risk, that’s negligent and unfair, I’m just going to say it as it is/
It’s like people who keep crayfish with fish in aquariums, the fish are not only at risk of being torn apart once the cray gets lucky, but the cray is at risk of getting nipped when it molts, which can ultimately kill it, that’s putting the animals at risk and it’s a bad idea, I’ve seen people keep crayfish in community tanks many times, and it’s a risk that I never recommend people take
It’s like how nobody recommends setting up sorority betta tanks on this website due to the risk of the balance breaking and the fish killing each other, and sometimes that never happens, but we don’t take that chance, do we?
I’ve seen people tell others not to mix two types of fish due to temperature differences or different temperaments and activity levels, so why is it any different for the dwarf frogs? It really isn’t.