In a sense I feel very bad for elves, some elves. Living a very long time can be quite, idk…depressing especially if said elf has had a bad life. It’s one thing for the other elves to tell them that things will be better in Valinor, but what if they aren’t? Take Aegnor for example. Being reborn would not make him happy, he could not find joy in Valinor, for his joy was left in Middle Earth. Yet he will live forever, wherever he is , immortal with that ache in his heart. Even if a depressed elf takes his or her own life, they will still end up in the Hall of Mandos either waiting to be reborn in Valinor (with no guarantee of their happiness), or remain with a clear conscience of life, still hurting.

I guess I am trying to say that I wish some elves could turn mortal, or just stop existing. Not to go to Valinor or the Halls of Mandos. I thought I saw somewhere that their souls could go into the void and the would essentially become nothing, and I guess for some of them that is solace, but that just may be a headcanon.

Honestly, to have immortality at any given point of life or death for elves is a curse. I know there have to be some elves who are hurting, who simply don’t yearn to live for eternity. Who have lost their mortal loved ones, who have faced such hardships that not even Valinor could cure them…etc…, and they just have no will to live for eternity. Because eternity for them is pain, and I know this is a sad topic but I mean…UGH…


Anonymous asked: “hi! i am rereading the silmarillion after many years and i’m having some trouble with the noldorin royal family’s relationships. do you know a chart that shows who was on especially good terms with who and who disliked who? or if it interests you can you talk a bit about it? i love your blog!

Oh boy, Anon, you said the magic words: Noldor and chart. So have four! First a family tree to help keep the relations straight. Then a chart showing members of the family described by Tolkien as being on especially friendly or unfriendly terms. Then a chart showing everyone’s reaction to the Oath of Feanor, and finally one showing the lineup for the departure of the Noldor from Valinor.

If you’d like to read more about the Noldorin royal family and their complicated relationships, I’ve got plenty more posts for you:

Nerdanel is out for ladies’ night with the other moms and aunties so that means Elf Papas have to babysit. Warm-up piece (kind of??) for Nolofinwean week. Also because I love this family a lot.

from left to right: Fingon & Maedhros, little Angrod & Aegnor, Fëanor & little Curufin, little Caranthir & Argon, Fingolfin with little Turgon and Aredhel, Amrod & Amras, Finarfin & little Galadriel, Celegorm, Finrod and Maglor.

Someday… by EKukanova

Artist note: Inspired by the last words of the Athrabeth

Finrod’s last words to Andreth were that she was not for Arda, and wherever she goes, beyond the world, may she find light and “‘await us there, my brother - and me.’” (Morgoth’s Ring - p. 326)

Someday, Andreth and Aegnor will meet again.  When Arda is made anew, they will be together.

Tolkien's Most Beautiful Relationships

Okay, I’ve limited this post to the First Age, because I really felt like digging in to that period’s particular brand of angst tonight. And I only managed to narrow it down to the five most beautiful relationships, so here they are (in no particular order.)


  • Why: This one’s probably going to surprise some of you, since (a) I don’t often have nice things to say about Feanor, and (b) these two have a pretty well-established animosity. But, though the “warring political brothers” trope is a very common one in fantasy, I think Tolkien gives us one of the most noble examples I’ve ever seen. Feanor and Fingolfin are on the opposite sides of family and political drama, and had we managed to get in the same room together one more time they probably would have killed each other, but they never once don’t seem like family, you know?
  • The Quote That Gets Me Every Time:For Fingolfin held forth his hand, saying: ‘As I promised, I do now. I release thee, and remember no grievance.’ Then Feanor took his hand in silence; but Fingolfin said: 'Half- brother in blood, full brother in heart will I be. Thou shalt lead and I will follow. May no new grief divide as.’ 'I hear thee,’ said Feanor. 'So be it.’ But they did not know the meaning that their words would bear.” - The Silmarillion
  • If You Like Them, Check Out: Aldarion and Erendis (found in The Unfinished Tales)


  • Why: There’s a reason this is one of the most popular ships (whether platonic or romantic) in the Silmarillion fandom. The sons of the above entry, they find themselves on opposite sides of the Noldorin feud, and yet time and again put their friendship first (whether it’s sending gifts back and forth across Beleriand, or planning battles together.)
  • The Quote That Gets Me Every Time:But Fingon climbed to the foot of the precipice where his kinsman hung, and then could go no further; and he wept when he saw the cruel device of Morgoth. Maedhros therefore, being in anguish without hope, begged Fingon to shoot him with his bow; and Fingon strung an arrow, and bent his bow. And seeing no better hope he cried to Manwe, saying: 'O King to whom all birds are dear, speed now this feathered shaft, and recall some pity for the Noldor in their need!’” - The Silmarillion
  • If You Like Them, Check Out: Cirion and Eorl (found in The Unfinished Tales)


  • Why: Ugh, even thinking about these two makes me sad. Turin was just a child when he met Beleg, but the two became friends, and Beleg helped Turin grow into the great warrior he became. And then Beleg (a hero of his people) basically abandons everything to keep Turin company on his little walkabout, with miserably tragic results (I don’t know what it is with Tolkien, but he seems to really enjoy punishing his characters’ friends.)
  • The Quote That Gets Me Every Time: 'Give me leave, lord,’ said Beleg, 'and I will guard him and guide him as I may; then no man shall say that elven-words are lightly spoken. Nor would I wish to see so great a good run to nothing in the wild.’” - The Silmarillion
  • If You Like Them, Check Out: Legolas and Gimli 


  • Why: Do we even need to talk about this one? No, I didn’t think so.
  • The Quote That Gets Me Every Time:You must choose, Beren, between these two: to relinquish the quest and your oath and seek a life of wandering upon the face of the earth; or to hold to your word and challenge the power of darkness upon its throne. But on either road I shall go with you, and our doom shall be alike.“ - The Silmarillion
  • If You Like Them, Check Out: Frodo and Sam


  • Why: Aegnor and Andreth are one of my favorite (and most tragic) Middle Earth romances. But toss in Aegnor’s brother Finrod and you get a really beautiful friendship. After Aegnor leaves Andreth (trying to spare them the pain that their separate destinies would cause them), Finrod takes to visiting Andreth and having long discussions about history and philosophy, trying to cheer her up a bit.
  • The Quote That Gets Me Every Time:Darkness fell in the room. He took her hand in the light of the fire. 'Whither go you?’ she said. 'North away,’ he said: 'to the swords, and the siege, and the walls of defence…’ 'Will he be there, bright and tall, and the wind in his hair? Tell him. Tell him not to be reckless. Not to seek danger beyond need!’ 'I will tell him,’ said Finrod. 'But I might as well tell thee not to weep. He is a warrior, Andreth, and a spirit of wrath. In every stroke that he deals he sees the Enemy who long ago did thee this hurt. But you are not for Arda. Whither you go may you find light. Await us there, my brother - and me.’“ - The Histories of Middle Earth vol. 10 ("Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth”)
  • If You Like Them, Check Out: Elrond and the never-ending procession of his brother’s descendants (especially Aragorn)

“Adaneth, I tell thee, Aikanár the Sharp-flame loved thee. For thy sake now he will never take the hand of any bride of his own kindred, but live alone to the end, remembering the morning in the hills of Dorthonion. But too soon in the North-wind his flame will go out! Foresight is given to the Eldar in many things not far off, though seldom of joy, and I say to thee thou shalt live long in the order of your kind, and he will go forth before thee and he will not wish to return.”


“Adaneth, I tell thee, Aikanár the Sharp-flame loved thee. For thy sake now he will never take the hand of any bride of his own kindred, but live alone to the end, remembering the morning in the hills of Dorthonion. But too soon in the North-wind his flame will go out! Foresight is given to the Eldar in many things not far off, though seldom of joy, and I say to thee thou shalt live long in the order of your kind, and he will go forth before thee and he will not wish to return.”   - Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth
[requested by @elrondd ]


Angrod was a Ñoldorin Elf, the second son of Finarfin and lord of the Ñoldor of Dorthonion.

Angrod was the elder brother of Galadriel and Aegnor, and the younger brother of Finrod Felagund. InFA 6 he was received in Doriath by King Thingol wanting his permission to establish realms in Beleriand outside Thingol’s realm.

Together with Aegnor he held the northern slopes of the highlands of Dorthonion against Morgoth. They were both killed in the Dagor Bragollach. Along with his brothers and sister, they were the few princes of the West who could enter Doriath through their mother Eärwen of Alqualondë.

His wife was a Ñoldorin lady named Eldalótë (Edhellos in Sindarin). His son was Orodreth.

PART ONE OF SERIES (X) Aegnor was a Ñoldorin elf, the third son of Finarfin, elder brother of Galadriel, younger brother of Finrod Felagund and Angrod and lord of the Ñoldor of Dorthonion in the First Age.

I was young and I looked on his flame, and now I am old and lost. He was young and his flame leaped towards me, but he turned away, and he is young still. Do candles pity moths?“

"Or moths candles, when the wind blows them out?

—  Athrabeth Finrod Ah Andreth, Morgoth’s Ring by J.R.R. Tolkien