I wanted to make a comment about the he/she battle with mutsuki but I don't want to get attacked so I hope you don't mind me telling you my opinion. I always saw Mutsuki as someone who hated his female side because he felt it betrayed him and it's the reason why he was raped. He became male for it. Thus making me believe he's not good trans representation. Isn't Nico gender fluid tho. I believe they're good transgender representation in the story.
I agree with you. His female identity brought him many problems with men, so I think he relates his bad luck with them with his female side, so becoming a man would hide him from men like his father and Torso, but that didn’t actually work out well, because Torso kidnapped him anyways and that’s why Mutsuki said “in the end, my destiny is always stolen by men” or something like that, depending on the translation. I believe he used his male identity to find protection, and had a conflict with his female side because it will always put him in situations like this. If you notice, all of his sadistic and crazy actions are made in moments in where he mentions/acknowledges his feminity. To lie to Saiko, to stab Uta/Haise, I think he feels less guilty to feel more like a woman while doing this stuff because he’s not in good terms with his female side, but I don’t think Mutsuki feels like a man, wants to be a man by own natural desire or feels like he’s not a girl, that’s why I don’t think he’s a trans man. If he had to dress as a freaking pony to hide from men and seek his own protection, then he would.
What TV writers think is good LGBT representation: *protagonist teary eyed* My attraction to the same gender is so painful I wish I did not feel this way…but alas it’s my burden to bear. Also I have dated both men and women but I don’t like labels. *dies* What is actually good LGBT representation: *protagonist wearing sunglasses playing the saxophone in front of a giant bisexual flag* How am I doing? Well I’m just getting BI!!! Haha get it?? Because I like both men and women so I’m bisexual.
Never compare Sanvers (aká the queens and actually a good rep) to ugly Brittana (worst bisexual rep and a latina bully). Brittana is trash next to Sanvers
Ummm hello to you too but 1. Who’s comparing them….. 2. I love them both, why are you telling me how to feel and who to ship when representation is clearly a very personal thing?¿
brittana is so important to me and so is sanvers but you do you i guess, I agree glee sucked and they did lots of problematic things on the show, but brittany and santana were two complex characters who had a story arch that lasted 6 years and ended with one very rare happy ending, and for a wlw interracial ship that doesn’t seem like nothing.
Stop pitting femslash ships against each other I honestly hate when y'all do this
honestly any of y’all who are being all salty about Yuri on Ice because you think it makes you “edgy” or maybe you see the fandom from afar and assume it’s made up of fujoshis
can miss me with that shit
this anime is genuinely good LGBT representation and is INTENDED TO BE SO by the writer and director. It’s paid homage to Johnny Weir and the struggle of being LGBT in figure skating, it’s shown an (as onscreen as possible) actual kiss between the two lead characters, and has given them a really beautiful scene that is meant to emulate a wedding between the two. Supporting characters have thought the two are engaged and openly congratulated them and cheered with a huge group of strangers at the thought of it.
This show is a really important turn for anime and LGBT representation in the media. The characters are shown to have a genuine, touching and kind relationship together, to work through things together, to build each other up in all things. And yeah, honestly, there are definitely a LOT of fujoshis in the fandom. But there are also a lot of LGBT people who were genuinely afraid of the show for the first few episodes and found themselves given instead of a queerbaiting nasty fujoshi bait show, a genuine, wonderful and compelling romance between two men. And now the fandom includes Johnny Weir himself, who has been actively discriminated against as a gay male ice skater.
So for those of you out there who make comments like “wow i can’t believe Yuri on Ice invented gay meN!” or about how utterly certain you are that it’s queerbaity, stop judging the show by its fandom or by your (justified) fears and expectations, and listen to the disenfranchised LGBT people who have found joy and genuine representation in this show. Even if you decide you still don’t like it or want to watch it, stop pretending you somehow have some superiority over people who like the show, because MANY of them are finding solace in the celebration of the love of two men in the midst of a really, spectacularly shittastic year.
Do you guys know what people think of when Chinese is usually brought up?
On the good side, we are known to be nerds that wear thick glasses and lightning bruiser speed math because we don’t know how to have fun.
On the bad side, we are known to be disgusting, chaotic, unruly, and just… made for laugh.
And for our representations in games…
We are known as gold farmers. People that farm gold to sell. Goddamn Chinese as people in WoW would say in general chat.
We aren’t very well represented as my girlfriend would tell me. When was the last time you saw a kickass actual Chinese protagonist in a video game?
I’ll give you a hint, if they existed, it is only because I had a handy character customization.
Blizzard is one of the very, very few gaming companies that actually pay a lot of respect to Chinese culture. This was evident when they first introduced the Lunar Festival Event in WoW.
They were literally the first MMORPG out there that started celebrating Chinese holidays.
Maybe it is because they have a huge fanbase in China, some might call it pandering, but it doesn’t matter.
When Blizzard first announced Mei. I CHEERED. And even more so when I found out she actually speaks Mandarin. She even has an accent!
And she did look like she really could have came out of the street of Shanghai. Somewhere. It was great.
And she kicks some serious ass in game.
But when Blizzard announced the CNY event for Overwatch. I was THRILLED. A part of me wasn’t really expecting it – I thought they’d go straight for Valentine’s Day special. So, I was so so so decently surprised.
At the intro (oh my god, Mercy actually writes the letters for Happy Chinese New Year in CHINESE! Tracer dances the dragon dance!!) and skins (JOURNEY TO THE WESSSSSST!!).
It was all so unforgiving Chinese, I loved it.
But there’s more to it than that.
It is because it portrayed the holiday – something that is even more important than Christmas to us – as a really positive light. There’s spray of Zarya FEASTING like a Chinese, dances for celebration, and just… so pretty and colorful.
I know we aren’t always like that, but in the world of poor portrayal of Chinese in media, Overwatch portrayed the good side of the Chinese culture.
And there’s so little good portrayal of Chinese traditions in Western culture.
It can definitely be better, like Mei’s waist. But there’s a whole lot of good being done here.
So fuck off to anyone that wants to talk about cultural appropriation.
I am happy that Overwatch and their beloved characters will celebrate Chinese New Years with us and showcase our traditions as actual human beings.
And we are definitely from a very colorful culture.
Honestly the best part about The OA for me is that Buck Vu hasn’t started testosterone so he still doesn’t quite pass vocally???
Since I have a similar situation to the one Buck does: I pass physically pretty well but I open my mouth and everyone either thinks I’m twelve or that I’m a girl
So it’s just nice that the trans representation isn’t a man who’s been on T for like 12 years cause I’m actually seeing myself represented on television
Idk it’s a very specific good feeling but it is a good feeling I wanted to share
I love Buck Vu a lot ok and I love how Ian Alexander plays him
@Ian: you’re doing great work, please keep going
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Colette (Black): More Black people doing shit! Going on adventures, riding dragons, being magical! More Black characters in prominent roles in fantasy + sci-fi and historical settings and not always and only as slavess. These stories are important, but they’re NOT our only stories. We were kings and queens too. Let us wear the fancy dresses for a change instead of the chains, damn it!
More Black girls being portrayed as lovely and treasured and worth protecting. More Black girls finding love. More Black girls in general who aren’t relegated to arc-less, cliche “Sassybest friends” and “strong black women.”
More positive, dynamic roles of Black men (fathers, brothers, boys…) More positive, dynamic family roles of Black families as a whole, families that are loving and supportive and there. More Black people from all socioeconomic classes. More Black characters that don’t rely on the stereotypes that the media is currently going full force to reinforce.
Yasmin (Arab, Turkish): More Arabs who aren’t token characters. I want to see Arabs normalised in literature. Arab teenagers in high school, Arab young adults behind on their taxes, Arab dads who cook amazing food, Arab moms who refuse to soften their tongue for others. Arabs who aren’t mystical fantasy creatures from another planet. Arabs in YAs and in dramas and nonfiction and comedies and children’s books. We are human just like everyone else, and I’d like to see that reflected in literature. Often we are boxed into very specific genres of literature and made to feel ostracised from the rest. Let’s see some change!
Alice (Black, biracial): I’m hoping for more Black and biracial (mixed with Black) leading characters in all genres, but mainly in SF/F who fall outside of the stereotypes. Characters I can relate to who love, cry and fight for their ideals and dreams. It would be great if their race would play an active role in their identities (I don’t mean plot-related). Some intersectionality with sexuality and disability is also sorely missed, without it becoming a tragedy or it being seen as a character flaw. More mixed race characters who aren’t mixed with some kind of monster, fictional race or different species. Dystopias about problems usually faced by poc having actual poc protags, without all the racial ambiguity which always gets whitewashed.
Shira (Jewish): More Jewish characters who feel positively about their Judaism and don’t carry it around as a burden or embarrassment. While the latter is definitely a real part of our experience due to anti-Semitism and all we’ve been through as a people, the fact that it overrepresents us in fiction is also due to anti-Semitism, even internalized. (Basically, Jews who don’t hate Judaism!)
More brave, heroic characters who are openly Jewish instead of being inspired by the Jewish experience and created by Jews (like Superman) or played by Jews (Captain Kirk) but still not actually Jewish. I’m tired of always being Tolkien’s Dwarves; I’d like a chance to play Bard, Bilbo, or even Gandalf’s role in that kind of story.
Elaney (Mexican): While we’re discussing what sort of representation we’d like to see, I am using the word “latinista” and I want to quickly address that since you may have not seen it before: “-ista” is a genderless suffix denoting someone is from an area (“Nortista”, a northerner), or who practices a belief (“Calvinista”, a calvinist), or a professsion (you’ve heard ‘barista’). I find it more intuitively pronounceable than “latinx” and also more friendly to Spanish, French, and Portugueze pronunciation (and thus more appropriate), personally, so I invite you to consider it as an alternative. If you don’t like it, well, at least I showed you.
1. I want legal Latinista immigrants. The darker your skin is down here, the more likely you are to be assumed to be illegal by your peers, and I want media to dilute this assumption so many have of us.
2. I want Latinistas who are well educated, not just smart, and I mean formally educated, with college degrees, professional skillsets, and trained expertise. Being in fields which do not require a formal degree is no less legitimate of a lifestyle than being in a field which requires a PhD, but I want you to consider when casting your Latinista character that We, as a people, are assumed to be little more than the drop-out and the janitor by our peers, and People Of Color in scientific fields are mistaken as assistant staff rather than the scientists that they are. I want media to dilute this assumption.
3. I want Latnistas who are not marketed as “Latin American” but as their actual country of origin, because “Latin America” is a conglomerate of individual entities with their own, distinct cultures and if you are, for example, Cuban, then Mexican characters may appeal to you but they don’t have the same relatability as fellow Cuban characters. Wouldn’t you be a little more interested, too, to pick up a book that’s about a character who lives where you do rather than about a character who lives somewhere in general?
4. I want rich or well-to-do Latinistas. Looking back, I notice that several of the character concepts that have been bounced off of us with regards to Latinista characters incorporate poverty despite an astronomical and diligent work ethic. I don’t think this is on purpose but I do think that it is internalized because so often the stereotype of us is poor and uneducated in a vicious cycle (uneducated because we’re poor, poor because we’re uneducated) and I think that there should be more media to dilute this.
Lastly, I personally do not want these tropes to be explored and subverted by people, I want them to be avoided entirely because I feel that normalizing positive representation rather than commenting on negative representation is far more beneficial and validating to the people these works are supposed to help and represent. We don’t need sympathy, we need empathy!
Jess (Chinese, Taiwanese): Stories that don’t center around the identity of being Chinese-American. That doesn’t mean “erase any references to protag’s Chinese identity” but I’d definitely like stories that have us go on awesome adventures every now and then and don’t have the Chinese character being all “I AM CHINESE” from beginning to end.
Please round out the Chinese migrant parents instead of keeping them as strict and/or traditional. PLEASE. I could go into how my parents and the Chinese aunties and uncles here are so awesome, seriously, and we need more older Chinese migrant characters who are awesome and supportive and just people. Also! EAST ASIAN GIRLS WHO AREN’T SKINNY AND/OR PETITE. Please. PLEEEEEASE. And more stories about Taiwanese and Chinese folks who aren’t in bicoastal regions (the Midwest, the Plains, etc.) WE EXIST.
More Chinese-Americans who aren’t necessarily Christian. Maybe it’s because of the books I’ve wound up reading, but there seems to be this narrative of Chinese migrants joining churches and converting when they’re in the US. This doesn’t mean I want less Chinese-American Christians in fiction, mind: I’d also just like to see more Chinese families in the US who are Buddhist or who still keep up with the traditions they learned from their homelands, like me, without having it considered in the narrative as ~old fashioned~ or ~ancient~ or ~mystical~. Tangentially, when writing non-Christian Chinese families, I’d rather people keep the assumption of Communism being the underlying reason why far, far away. I have been asked in the past if Communism was why my family didn’t go to church, and needless to say, it’s really, really offensive.
Stella (Korean): I’d love to see more Korean (and Asian-American) characters that don’t perpetuate the super-overachieving, stressed-out, only-cares-about-succeeding Asian stereotype. These Koreans exist (I would know; I went to school with quite a few of them) but they don’t represent all of us. I want to see more Korean characters solving mysteries, saving the world and having fun. More Koreans that aren’t pale, petite, and a size 2. Not all of us have perfect skin or straight black hair or monolids. And some of us love our short legs, round faces and small eyes!
And fewer stoic&strict Korean parents, please. So many of us grew up with loud, wacky, so-embarrassing-but-endearing parents!
Recently, there’s been quite a few novels with Korean American female protags (particularly in the YA section) that deal with being in high school, dealing with strict parents, getting into college, and boys. Lots of boys! I think it’s awesome that there are more books with KA protags, and I’m so so so glad they’re out there. But I also recognize that those are definitely not the kind of books I would have read as a teenager, and it’s not the kind of book I want to read now. I want to see more Korean characters that are queer, trans, ace, bisexual. More Korean characters that are disabled or autistic or have mental illnesses. More Korean characters in fantasy, SFF, mystery! Heck, space operas and steampunk Westerns. I want it all! :DDDD
A lot of Korean-Americans struggle with their identity. It’s hard to balance things sometimes! But I’d love to see more stories that *aren’t* overtly about Korean-Americans dealing with their racial identity or sexual orientation, but stories about Koreans saving princesses and slaying trolls and commandeering spaceships. I want a plot that doesn’t center on Korean-American identity, but on a Korean-American character discovering themselves. White characters get to do it all the time; I want Korean characters to have a turn.
And honestly, I just want to see more Asians in media, period. South Asians, Southeast Asians, Central Asians! Thai, Hmong, Tibetan, Filipino, Vietnamese characters. Indian characters! There’s so much diversity in Asia and among Asian diaspora. I want us to be more than just ~~mystical~~ characters with ancient wisdom and a generic Asian accent. We’ve got boundless oceans of stories within ourselves and our communities, and I can’t wait for them to be told.
I would also love to see more multiethnic Asian characters that are *not* half white. It seems to be the default mixed-race Asian character: East Asian and white. But so many of my friends have multiethnic backgrounds like Chinese/Persian, Thai/Chinese or Korean/Mexican. I have Korean friends who grew up in places like Brazil, Singapore and Russia. Did you know that the country with the largest population of Koreans (outside of Korea) is actually China?
And while I’m at it, I’d love to see more well-translated works from Asia in the US. Like, how awesome would it be to have more science fiction, fantasy, and historical novels from Asia that are easily accessible in English? SUPER awesome!!
Kaye (Muslim): I am so hungry for Muslim representation, because there is so little of it. You can see one or two (YA) titles I currently think or have heard are good representation on the shelves - notably, Aisha Saeed’s Written in the Stars - on an AMA I did the other day for /r/YAwriters.
However, I’d just love to see stories where Muslim characters go on adventures like everyone else!
I’ve been saying recently that I’d LOVE to see a cozy mystery. Or a series of Muslim historical romances a la Georgette Heyer (there are a LOT of Muslim girls who love romances, and I’m just starting to get into the genre myself!). I’d love to see Muslim middle grade readers get girls who find secret passages, solve mysteries, tumble through the neighborhood with their dozen or so cousins.
I have a lot of cousins and thus I always have a soft spot for cousins. And siblings.
I’m looking forward to Scarlett Undercover by Jennifer Latham because Jen is writing Scarlett as a detective a la Veronica Mars. And she’s Somali-American. How cool is that?!
Let’s see some classic road trip YA with Muslims. Let’s see comedies with quirky characters - for instance, I know one or two tween Muslim girls who are driving their moms MAD by suddenly turning vegetarian and refusing to touch the celebratory biryani at family Eid parties, who join relevant societies at their schools and start preaching to their extended families about the benefits of going vegetarian and all the funny little interactions that are involved with that. Let’s have a story with some wise-cracking African American Muslim girls.
My cousin is a niqaabi who loves YA and hates that she doesn’t see herself in it. Let’s see some stories with teen niqaabis! Let’s explore the full, joyful spectrum of diversity in Islam. Let’s have stories where we talk about how one word in Bengali is totally different in another language, and one friend is hilariously horrified and the other friend doesn’t know what he/she said.
I want to see joy. I want to see happiness. Being a woman of color and a hijaabi often means facing so many daily, disheartening scenarios and prejudice and hatefulness. So many of the suggested tropes recently in the inbox focus on trying to force Muslim characters into beastly or haraam or just sad and stereotypical scenarios. I know that writers are better and have bigger imaginations than that.
You want angst? Push aside the cold, unkind, abusive Muslim parents trope. Let’s talk about the Muslim girls I know who have struggled with eating disorders. Let’s talk about Islamophobia and how that is a REAL, horrible experience that Muslim kids have to fear and combat every day. Let’s approach contemporary angst without the glasses of the Western gaze and assumptions about people of the Islamic faith on.
We can have Muslim novels that focus on growing pains like Sarah Dessen and Judy Blume (and speaking of that, my “auntie” who used to teach in a madrasah used to press Are You There, God? It’s Me, Margaret on the Muslim girls she knew because of how Margaret approached growing up and had concerns about her faith and her relationships, etc.)
Having Shia friends, I would like to see more stories that aren’t just assumed to be Sunni. How about stories about Su-Shi kids, too? (Sunni and Shia - the name always surprises me!) Let’s see some Muslim-Jewish friendships. Because they exist.
And of course, I always, always hunger for Muslim voices first. Because it’s so important to have these voices there, from the source, and some of the issues with answering here at WWC is how people seem to be approaching certain tropes that a Muslim writer could explore with the nuance and lived experience of their faith behind it.
Long time colleague, long time work-friend, good guy, comes into my office to kill time. Asks me if I’m watching Riverdale. No idea what made me go here, and there’s only a handful of people I would have with, but I said: No, I’m not, because Jughead’s canonically asexual and they’ve said they’re not worried about respecting that.
And he said: That’s exactly what I was going to talk about! I was reading the controversy and I was thinking, people can’t actually be that can they?
I looked at him for a few seconds and then I raised my hand.
He blinked at me and went: Oh. Oh! He looked a bit taken aback, but he’s a truly good guy, and followed that up with: Right, well, there you go, I didn’t know, but I can get why that’d be important, you need that representation, I mean, it’s not like you can have pride parades.
Which led me to say: That’s what the ‘A’ stands for, but, you know, we’re not always accepted, to which he replied: Well that sucks. Genuinely sympathetically.
That’s why representation matters. Because he is a genuinely good, kind, well-rounded, incredibly socially aware guy and he had no idea asexuals even existed. His response to finding out was 'people can’t be that, can they?’. Not in a judging, 'thou shall not’ way; he was genuinely confused.
Representation matters. And I guess I just came out to someone else at work, so there’s also that. Huh.
I don’t think folks understand that while there’s never a good time to deny antiblackness in your fandoms, the worst time to try that shit is when a Black person is actually talking about antiblackness.
I get it, you don’t believe that people say nasty racist things about a racebent Black character because you haven’t seen them.
But instead of accepting my words and experiences as truth, you decide to lecture me about comic book history? Me.
The person doing a thesis on comics and whose academic history is full of research on representation in media.
What the entire fuck is it with people talking down to me like I’m two and like I have zero experience in fandom (especially superhero fandoms), dealing with racism, or that gross zone where fandom and racism intertwine?
Like… These are all nonblack people who think they know more than I do about race/racism in fandom (especially antiblackness) and then are probably surprised when I go off on their condescending asses…
I think it'd be very suiting for Lance to be bi for so many reasons, like 1. just beacuse we've seen him only flirting w/ girls doesn't mean he doesn't also like boys (people forget that too often) 2. we know that Lance has problems w/ self-confidence aaand he actually reminds me a lot of my bi friend who used to flirt w/ girls A LOT before coming out/self identification because he was afraid of also liking boys etc. 3. Lance being bi would be a hella good representation
For a while, i didn’t know if i wanted to see this movie. I was a bit annoyed to watch again a movie about an autistic white little boy, i want to see different characters, i want to see diversity and real representation. But damn, this movie hits me right in the feels. And Oskar is such a good representation, i think if i had seen this movie when it came out, i would have self-diagnosed way early.
Extremely loud & Incredibly close is the story of a little boy named Oskar, whose father died during 9/11. His father used to send him in some kind of treasure hunt, where he would have to talk to people to find what he wants. While looking in his father’s stuff, Oskar find a key, but not the lock where it’s supposed to fit in. So, Oskar is ready for meeting lots and lots of people, in order to feel close to his father one last time.
Oskar’s world is bright, loud, intense, fast. And sometimes, it’s slow, beautiful and unique. Oskar is allowed to be noisy, to stim, to feel like a real little boy, a real autistic boy. I felt really close to him and i could put myself in his shoes very easily.
I won’t say this movie is for everyone because it made me cried quite a lot and i can’t imagine what it might feel like for someone who has experienced loss during 9/11. I’m french, i can’t even comprehend what this event might have been like. But there’s a real message of hope in this movie and such a good representation of autism that i have to recommand it.
I have to say, though, that Oskar mentioned Aspergers and that he was tested for it, but his answer is vague about it. I think that his parents didn’t want to talk about it to him straight away, so they stayed vague themselves.
My mom did the same thing for me : a psychiatrist actually told her that i might be autistic when i was one year old (and in a non-verbal state due to a trauma), but she didn’t follow through and didn’t tell me until very recently.
It’s such a beautiful movie. Seriously, i loved it. Oskar is an incredible kid. Very relatable.
[gif of Oskar telling “People tell me i’m very odd all the time”.]
[gif of Oskar telling “I think a lot of things are odd.”]
Trigger warning for the use of the word “r*tard”, though. It’s only said once and it’s not about Oskar and his autism.
I can't express in words how much I love your art style. The way you portray Gabe, Jack and Angela, both pre- and post incident, is an actual representation of how I personally imagine them. And I don't think I'm alone on this haha. So please keep up the good work :)