Stephen McFeely

Most Marvel fans who complain about Infinity War and Endgame keep making one big mistake. They complain about the Russos. There are countless posts hating them and over a dozen blogs with a title along the lines of ‘I hate the Russos.’ So, you hate Endgame. You hate the story, the plot and writing. That’s fine, it’s your opinion. You are just hating the wrong people. The Russos did not come up with the story, the plot or write the script. Despite this, they get all the hate for the plot and writing.

The job of a director is to look at a script and visualise it in the best way possible, controling a film’s artistic and dramatic aspects. They tell the cast how they should move, suggest to the crew what camera angles may be best and what emotions they want the scenes to carry. They direct people.

Christplopher Markus and Stephen McFeely are the main writers. The Russos are not given any writing or producing credits at all. The people who came up with the story and wrote it get no hate on here at all. I don’t get it. Most other fandoms e.g Game Of Thrones and Sherlock pin the blame on the right people for problems but Marvel Fans can’t get it right. I know the Russos are far from perfect but there is absolutely no reason to hate anyone for things they didn’t do. If you must be hateful on main please hate the right people and learn what a director is.

anonymous asked:

Seriously everything about endgame makes me so so suspicious about the russos and markus and mcfeely, like how many other people must have been involved in everything else that made these characters who they are but then these guys got all the credit and went and effed it all up or like what happened??? Or is it just they were finally allowed to get their hands on Tony stark and went who cares about anyone else??? What on earth happened

I feel like Gandalf when he found out Saruman was working w Sauron……….betrayed and confused


Stephen McFeely: “That’s the most interesting part of the third act. That Steve – and Natasha but we don’t talk about that – watched that video in Winter Soldier. They know categorically that HYDRA killed [the Starks]. Never told Tony. So when Tony asks him, ‘Rogers, did you know?’ and [Steve] says, 'Yes,’ it’s maybe the worst thing Steve’s ever done. It’s certainly the most self-involved. [He was] copping to his one big mistake.” (x)


I love how he always says he doesn’t understand or want to indulge in politics that comes with being a King, yet is clearly wiser than most who sit on thrones.

To the point, he is willing to be seen as a traitor himself than let his Father appear the unstable ruler he was being. The Father who had just brutally humiliated him for wanting to take action.

McFeely and Markus on Stucky:
  • Interviewer: Did you guys, after it's been out, look at what people are saying and tweak things because of what fans have said, or does that not even factor in?
  • McFeely: We try not to let that factor in. We're fans and we try to service (points at himself and Markus) these fans, right? If we go out of our way to scan the internet, and find out what website want various things to happen, we'd be paralyzed, because for everybody who wants, you know, Steve and Bucky to kiss, there's another group that wants Steve and Sharon to kiss. So I can't—we cannot be slaves to that.
  • Markus: Are there any Sharon/Bucky people out there?
  • McFeely: I don't know. Shannies?
  • Interviewer: I definitely had some tweets with people asking about Bucky's status, sexually. [And] Sharon, what's going on with that.
  • Markus: Well, I can tell you this: Bucky's single.

Thor’s guilt

Eitri’s ‘story’ was particularly intriguing to me. As this was one of the rare occasions I’d seen the opposite of ‘show, don’t tell’ rule of screenwriting work so well. They could - or rather should - have shown the story, but didn’t. What they did show was Eitri telling what Thanos did and a beat by beat reaction from Thor. And to me at least, he looks guilty. Because my first reaction was - ‘this isn’t your fault, there’s nothing you could’ve done for them’!

So why does he look guilty then?

It goes back to when Mantis reads his mind as he was unconscious: He feels tremendous loss and guilt. That’s as straightforward as it can be. Then, he says to Gamora: I feel your pain. He is seeing himself in her, but what is he relating to? Just like him, she is helpless in her situation too. In a similar exchange with Eitri, he says: I know it feels like all hope is lost. Trust me, I know. Again, seeing himself in him. What is he relating to? Eitri is the King of his Realm and couldn’t save it - EXACTLY like Thor.

Then there is the direct reference of you were supposed to protect us”. The realm of Nidavellir was the responsibility of Asgard and its King. He failed them as well. And then he has to bring up his fresh failure of Asgard being destroyed again… So with all that hammering in his head, this happens: “Then he killed everyone anyway. All except me.” Of course he would look guilty!

This is why you don’t have to show the story. Eitri is the personification of Thor’s guilt - him telling and him reflecting holds more weight in the cinematic language. Thor never voices his feelings easily, which admittedly makes it hard for the writers to get them across naturally. But this scene (lit in blue hue) - building up on Mantis & Eitri voicing it and him relating to someone’s helplessness - brilliantly conveys the point of the extreme guilt he is under over his failure to save his people.

And guilt is a huge burden to have on the conscience. It makes you do things you wouldn’t otherwise. I mean, he’s suicidal and he’s guilty - that is a horrible combination. We see it unfold as the movie progresses - how desperate (“I’ll hold it open”), insane and downright psychotic (“I told you… you’d die for that”) he gets. And it’s all believable because it’s laid down so craftily by the writers and directors. Brilliant!

Of course, this is still a rollicking adventure tale and no adventure is complete without a love story. And, yes, these books have one — the longest, most tortured one in Marvel history, in fact. We’re talking about Steve and Bucky, without smirking or innuendo or raised eyebrows. Platonic though the relationship may be, from the meet cute to the tragic separation, their bond has all the elements of a classic romance. These two men love each other — as any pair of friends who faced exclusion, combat, inhumanity, and death would. Their bond stretches across half of the twentieth century. The loss of it gnaws at Steve throughout modern day, and it slices his heart in half when the Winter Soldier rears his tormented, homicidal head. Just as Jeph and Tim’’s earlier Daredevil: Yellow, Spider-Man: Blue, and Hulk:  Gray all dealt with the major love interests in, the heroes’ lives, so too does Captain America: White. Steve and Bucky are each other’s soulmate, if you will, because no one on Earth understands what either of them has been through as well as the other does. These books deal deftly with the strengths and weaknesses that relationship engenders. As the Red Skull himself says to Bucky, “The Captain has a…‘soft spot’ for you. A spot I intend to put a bullet into this very evening.” Soldiers fight for their country. They fight for themselves. They fight for each other. And sometimes they die for these things, too. The ones who don’t, carry the memory of the ones who did for the rest of their days.  Steve Rogers is no different.
—  Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely (writers of Captain America movies + Avengers Infinity War) about Steve and Bucky in Captain America: White [x]

Stephen McFeely: “For everybody who wants, you know, Steve and Bucky to kiss, there’s another group that wants Steve and Sharon to kiss.”

Originally posted by giantmonster

It’s funny the way some people doesn’t realize that a HAPPY ENDING in a movie lasts FOREVER. Those characters got their ending and it was happy. Your last memory EVER of them will be joy, you will always remember them with a smile in your mouth, savoring again the past. Rewatching old movies over and over again..

You will always be able to keep a happy and joyful memory of them.

On the contrary, a TRAGIC ENDING is the opposite emotion, but it equally keeps ingrained for posterity in your brain, it lasts FOREVER too. But those characters never got happiness in the end, never got completion in a way, and that last tragedy tarnishes everything. The good, the bad, the past joyful moments, and you can’t phisically enjoy them as before. And all gets sad and depressing. And it can never be the same.

You will always be able to keep a sad and tragic memory of them.

THANK YOU RUSSO BROS, for thinking about this and putting millions of people’s necessities (some of them mentally ill, even) over your selfish narrative needs. Oh, wait… :(

Thor’s Agency Problem In Gagnarok

Basically, ‘agency’ of any character means them making things happen/setting a specific course for the movie with their active actions. It’s v important for the protagonist to have agency in his movie.

To contrast how Thor has 0 of it in Gagnarok, I put together a list of just how much he has it in literally all other appearances (excluding Endgame).


Complete Agency -

Partial Agency (Reactions) -

No Agency -


Complete Agency -

Partial Agency (Reactions) -

No Agency -

He has had moments of impressive agency even in the assemble films that did not need it:

Avengers1 - getting rag dolled by Hulk to save Natasha; trying to talk Loki out of it.

Avengers2 - goes on his own to figure out the vision given by Wanda; deep dives into murderous waters to find out crucial info; resolves the conflict and creates Vision.

And then there is Thor3 (no screenshots because I refuse):

Complete Agency - 1. Stalling everything for his improv gags; 2. Mocks his gf because women are not men’s equal; 3. Tortures his brother for no reason and leaves him to die.

Partial Agency (Reactions) - 1. Fights Surtur & goes to Asgard; 2. Goes to Midgard; 3. Tries to get out of Planet Hulk by recruiting (bullying) 3 people who have no inclination or reason to put their lives on the line for Asgard or its pseudo-King; 4. Escapes Planet Hulk; 5. Gets wrecked by Hela on purpose to buy the Aesir time.

No Agency - 1. Wrecked by Hela on Midgard; 2. Captured by Scrapper Number 145; 3. Forced to duel Hulk; 4. Stuck on Planet Hulk; 5. Takes the throne of Asgard because Daddy died.

There were 5 separate instances where he merely reacted to shit and 5 where he had no agency at all. The times he did have it were purely to induce laughs. The final fight was the worse. He was told by Odin what to do, then Heimdall saved the people and Loki brought the ship as well as put the horns in the fire. So Odin, Heimdall, and Loki saved the Aesir while Thor still couldn’t do shit to Hela even after going God Mode. I mean, Surtur defeated her. It’s another level of embarrassing if your protagonist has literally 0 contribution in the final fight.

Funnily enough, the assemble film Avengers3 managed to give him a complete arc in mere 14 minutes of screentime (In Thor3, he had 57):

Complete Agency -

Partial Agency (Reactions) -

No Agency -

The biggest example of Russos and M&M understanding just how much agency he imbues naturally is in the scene where he ends THAT gut-wrenching conversation with Rabbit. The scene ends when he decides to end it (getting up to 'go forward’).

But sure, Gagnarok invented cinema.