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bluebirdonce  asked:

Hi, could you explain why exactly Rapunzel isn't ENFJ and why she is ENFP, please? I can't find clarity about that and I think you might be able to explain this to me :)

Rapunzel: ENFP [Disney’s Tangled]

Originally posted by yourreactiongifs

As someone who once typed her as an ENFJ I get the confusion. Even though functions of an ENFP and ENFJ once broken down are quite different their combinations can make them easy to confuse as their outward behavior can look identical at times.

Dominant Extraverted Intuition, Ne: Rapunzel first looks outward towards the world seeing constant possibilities. Her tower is covered in her moving from hobby to hobby. This may seem like what we would all do trapped in a tower, but indeed it isn’t. Notice she doesn’t perfect anything but moves from thing to thing. But more importantly the world is full of meaning and potential.

Secondary Introverted Feeling, Fi: This is the crucial function to differentiate ENFJ and ENFP for Rapunzel. Fe and Fi are both people focused, but Fe deals in societal terms and human behaviors. Fi, what Rapunzel has, is more individually focused. Her Ne sees potential and her Fi directs her to see potential in people. This is why she helps people with their dreams. But on a more personal level, especially with Eugene. 

Now, ENFJs also help people. But their focus is different as they try to help people on their journey’s in society. Of discovering their roles. Meanwhile, an ENFP is trying to help people fulfill their possibilities. 

Tertiary Extraverted Thinking, Te: Rapunzel has quite a healthy tertiary function. It helps her prioritize her life and others. She knows what the important things are in life and makes sure they take priority. 

Inferior Introverted Sensation, Si: For Rapunzel in Tangled her inferior function takes the form as a goal setter. She is looking for that thing that created concrete meaning in her life. She thinks it is the lanterns but it turns out to be finding a home in Eugene and her parents. In all her Ne possibilities her Si balances in trying to find that steady thing in her life.

Types during Finals
  • ESFP:Goes on 2837382928 forms of social media in denial that finals are coming up
  • ESTP:Does the same as ESFP but with more coffee
  • ISTP:Stays up all night scrolling through Wikipedia, somehow ends up on an article for sewing
  • ISFP:Listens to "Bring me to Life" on repeat as they wait for someone to save them from the nothing they've become
  • INFP:Their textbooks and flashcards are stained with a lot of tears. It's a good thing they use waterproof pens.
  • ENFP:Chugs gallons of coffee and does everything except for study for finals. (Somehow they also clean their room in the process)
  • ENFJ:Organizes a group study session. No one attends.
  • INFJ:Studied beforehand. Still as sleep-deprived as the rest for some reason.
  • INTJ:Pulls seven all-nighters in a row, somehow survives and is still on the honor roll
  • INTP:On their twenty-eighth all-nighter in a row, they put a pile of textbooks under their pillow to "absorb information". It doesn't work.
  • ENTP:Does the same thing as ISTP but with 47297364 more tabs
  • ENTJ:Goes over color-coded notes before bed, soon turns desperate and resorts to all-nighters
  • ESTJ:Never notices when their coffee is black when sleep-deprived
  • ISTJ:Screams internally as they go over 2583728 pages of notes and 976 flash cards
  • ISFJ:Organizes a group study session via Skype, doesn't come due to extracurricular activities
  • ESFJ:Comes to the study session, takes screenshots of everyone's notes, cries when it's over due to the towering responsibilities
ASTROLOGY & MBTI

To understand this, you will need to know your birth chart and mbti type.

  • The first letter in mbti is either an I or an E, which stands for Introvert and Extrovert. Here is the difference between the two. (x)
  • The second letter is either an S or an N, which stands for Sensing and iNtuitive. Here is the difference between the two. (x)
  • The third letter is either an F or a T, which stands for Feeling and Thinking. Here is the difference between the two. (x)
  • The fourth letter is either a P or a J, which stands for Perceiving and Judging. Here is the difference between the two. (x)

Introvert vs. Extrovert

Introvert: Taurus, Cancer, Virgo, Scorpio, Capricorn, Pisces

Extrovert: Aries, Gemini, Leo, Libra, Sagittarius, Aquarius

Sensing vs. Intuitive 

Sensing: Aries, Taurus, Virgo, Sagittarius, Aquarius, Capricorn

Intuitive: Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Libra, Scorpio, Pisces

Feeling vs. Thinking

Feeling: Aries, Cancer, Leo, Sagittarius, Pisces

Thinking: Taurus, Gemini, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Capricorn, Aquarius

Perceiving vs. Judging

Perceiving: Aries, Gemini, Leo, Libra, Sagittarius, Aquarius, Pisces

Judging: Taurus, Cancer, Virgo, Scorpio, Capricorn


As a basic guide, you can use your natal chart placements to determine your mbti type. This is by no means a perfect system.

  • Use the sign you have in your 10th house to determine whether you are an Introvert or Extrovert.
  • Use your Mercury sign to determine whether you are a Sensor or Intuitive.
  • Use your Moon sign to determine whether you are a Thinker or Feeler.
  • Use the sign in your 6th house to determine whether you are a Perceiver or Judger.

By now you should have your four letter type. Leave a reply and let me know how your astrological mbti type matches up with your actual type!

Elusive Introverted Intuition: What is it?

No matter what source you look at Introverted iNtuition [Ni] never seems to be properly explained. It is always vague with descriptions like “AHA” moments, deep perception, and mystical like psychic abilities. Or you get tumblr, which is probably filled with the most misinformation about the function. (Don’t get me started on forums where people make baseless claims and just cause even more mass confusion). Then the worst reasoning for dominant Ni I have ever seen is “long term planning/goals.” As if no other types, just the rarest in the population, have this ability. 

So where do we start and figure out what this function actually is? Out of credible sources (peer reviewed articles and books) even their descriptions seem vague and are difficult to imagine and actually apply. Unlike all other functions described in their purest form, the dominant position, it can’t seem to be described as its own function. What I mean is Ni can’t seem to be described alone, but must be paired with other functions INJs use in their stack in order to illustrate the function. But at that point you are no longer describing Ni, but the personality type as a whole. Sources seem to dance around the actual definition or explanation of Ni. And it is utterly bothersome. What is it at its core?

I think going into where this misinformation comes from will help ground us in the actual function of Ni in its purest form in INFJs and INTJs. Once this is uncovered we will see why these types are so rare and perhaps glorify them less. This way we don’t see them as mythical unicorns, but people with pros and cons like the rest of the personality types.

1. “Gut Feelings” or AHA moments. Let’s start with Lenore Thomson’s beginning description of the function, “Introverted intuition is more cerebral than the [other perceiving function]. It prompts an interest in perception itself – the process of recognizing and interpreting what we take in” (222). What we take from this is that INJs are theoretical filters. They take in information and focus in on it, they mull over it. INJ’s intuition is very focused and trying to look for a conclusion. From the outside when they finally verbalize their conclusions it can look like a “gut feeling” or AHA moment. But this is a false representation of what is going on inside the mind of an INJ. They worked very hard to get to that conclusion, seeming aloof or empty for so long cause they were so focused inward that once they formulated their conclusion they come back to the land of living to share this information. However, in a dominant position INJs are less inclined to engage with others about their ideas/conclusions, ESPECIALLY when the ideas/conclusions aren’t fully formulated.

Unlike Extroverted intuition types (ENPs) who will blurt out all their theories and ideas aloud to bounce them off others and then hide away not letting others know about their full conclusions, INJs do the exact opposite. They are bouncing these ideas within their own minds. Let us use the act of painting an art piece to demonstrate how this works. Think of the paintings as theories/ideas these people have. Ne (extroverted intuition) will look at the canvas and see a billion possibilities. 

ENPs will be unable to resist painting right away even without, often without, a full picture of what they want to produce as their end art piece. They will make mistakes and chuck out a canvas and replace it anew. Each time they will ask for feedback, probably cutting off people and finishing their thoughts because they share them too and don’t want to sit through a person repeating what they know. After a while of this they will finally have a completed piece of art. Although their workshop is messy, it is completed. AKA the final theory is formed. 

The INJ is different. They look at the blank canvas for a very, very long time. The paints are left untouched and it is absolute silence. They are in an intense state of concentration. In their mind they are imagining the end result they want and how to get there. What will they mix together to get to that end result they so imagine? They will then painstakingly make that vision come to life on the canvas, making sure not one stroke is off. No room for mistakes. It will take an unfortunate amount of time. But once it is finished, if it is exactly the conclusion or painting they wanted in their minds. The INJ will then show it to others, but only then. 

Now, we can see the obvious social differences here. The ENP needed feedback, needed to physically see their ideas in the outside world, and needed a few practice ones. The INJ being introverted kept their work private and not until it was perfect then share it with others. This is why they appear to have “AHA” moments or gut feelings. Because to the outsider it looks like the painter INJ is absent, not there. Then suddenly an idea pops in their minds and they go for it. That isn’t what happened though. Every part of the painting the INJ thought about before physically implementing it. Every part was thought out and methodical. It was brought to a linear conclusion, aka polished to an inch of its life, before the INJ enacted it. There wasn’t an idea from no where. It was an idea the INJ worked, actively worked, hard to achieve. 

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