inertia-kreeps  asked:

Hello! I always agreed with your typing of Naruto Uzumaki as ENFP but thinking about it I can't see any Ne-dom in him? I don't know, he looks more like a doer who needs practical examples to understand things, which strikes me as more in tune with a Se-dom? couldn't his goal to become Hokage be a vague Ni-inf goal? I'm not really convinced of another typing like ESFP so excuse my curiority and playing devil's advocate :)

Naruto Ne v. Se Dominance 

Naruto is definitely an ENFP, Ne dom with Si inf. Why? Se and Ne can be similar as they can be a distracted sort moving from one experience/idea to the next. For the Se it is obvious why they have changed course. They have exhausted an actual experience. But the Ne is finicky, as we see with Naruto learning Ninjitsu. Ne deals in ideas and potentials, rather than what is. ENPs like Naruto get bored with an idea before actualizing it. They move on to the next thing before anyone quite understands how they can be bored without actually doing it. It is why growing up it is so hard for him to learn Ninjitsu. The physicality isn’t really natural, it doesn’t come to him as his mind wanders with Ne. He moves on to the next more interesting thing before actualizing the first lesson.

Se is more pragmatic and grounded. Words I would never use for Naruto. Naruto is a dreamer, an idealist. To quote Lenore Thomson:

Like Extraverted Sensates, ENPs can make things happen very quickly. Sensates, however, are concrete pragmatists. They actualize people’s expectations and in the process become to focal point. By contrast, the ENFP analyst appeals to people’s imaginations, becoming a focal point for others’ inventiveness and curiosity.

Naruto appeals to others about what could be in the Ninja world. His philosophy is shaped by Fi, not Ne. His Ne helps him see potentials and Fi directs him to see them in people. As he is guided by others and sees the world with Ne, his Fi takes shape his personal morals and philosophy. What he judges to be right. Ne is not a function that does this. The Ninja world forgets the people, the individual people. It puts the society above all, ironically forgetting the individuals. His actions and words inspires those who meet him, and remind them of what they all can be. 

Now Ni, being associated with his dream to be Hokage isn’t really how inferior Ni works. Inferior Ni when healthy helps the ESP recognize that their own experiences can be interpreted differently and aren’t compatible with everyone. It helps the ESP understand alternative viewpoints that run counter to the specific ESP experiences and ways of life. If the Ni is under developed they see other perspectives and interpretations as a threat to their sense of self created by their experiences. 

I don’t see this inferior function working it’s way in Naruto. However, I do see inferior Si. Naruto doesn’t understand the need to stick to older values created by past experiences. He finds old rules constraining. This is his Ne-Si conflict. His Ne sees that if something doesn’t work, you move onto something new. He misses the need to honor certain needs and values under all circumstances. It is why many of the problems of the Ninja world make no sense to him. The meaning and perspectives based on experience, grounded in history, don’t super appeal to Naruto. Just change, just adapt, just Ne! It is his coming to terms with the old and the new that drives Naruto’s journey. He can’t realize being Hokage till this conflict is resolved.

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Fogadd el, hogy nem kellesz neki! Remekül megvan nélküled is. Tehát ne zaklasd a köszönéseiddel, a kérdéseiddel!  Törődj bele, hagyd békén, hagy élje az életét, és egyszer majd talán neked sem fog kelleni többé...
infp's through stages of tiredness

not tired: reserved but friendly, will mind their own business but won’t be rude if you talk to them

kind of tired: will do anything to avoid human contact

really tired: becomes an enfp

absolutely 150% tired: an emotional, angry mess that you don’t want to cross the line with


idk if this is just me but let me know 😂 i want to see if this has any correlation with mbti

Notes on Function Maturity

Immature Si: I only seek details that make me comfortable while ignoring or downplaying important details that might require me to change course
Mature Si: I prepare myself to perform well by methodically learning and attending to every new or significant detail that each situation brings

Immature Ni: I believe I know how the world works though I can’t see myself accurately and don’t know how to live my own life meaningfully
Mature Ni: I make positive progress because I possess a deep and meaningful vision of who I should be and what I contribute to the world

Immature Ti: I follow my own rules and principles without really understanding exactly how my actions influence the world at large
Mature Ti: I seek precise knowledge of what impact my thoughts/behaviors produce so as to act coherently without harm, bias, or hypocrisy

Immature Fi: I can only see as far as my own values and suffering so I can’t formulate a factual and objective understanding of the world at large
Mature Fi: I seek deep understanding of human experience in order to act with integrity and work to prevent/alleviate suffering for myself and others

Immature Se: I simply react as circumstances dictate without enough consideration for whether the direction is the right one to take
Mature Se: I seek out new/positive learning experiences and fully appreciate that the unexpected can teach me to be more adaptable to life’s changes

Immature Ne: My mind is unable to conceptualize the best ideas or grasp the most promising opportunities for making progress in life
Mature Ne: I am confident in making continual progress because I can work out many viable paths to approach any situation or difficult problem

Immature Te: I utilize power to shape the world into what I want it to be and fail to realize that my actions do not produce universally positive results
Mature Te: I utilize my strengths to get positive results for all and work to improve my weaknesses so as to minimize negative or harmful behaviors

Immature Fe: I only care about others in terms of how they affect me and fail to treat them as individuals with their own unique needs/experiences
Mature Fe: I can see other people objectively and separately from myself and respond to their needs appropriately and compassionately

My observations of Ne Vs Ni humour

Ne-Si: Inside jokes, stupid freaking puns, quick quips, comedic timing is precious, either exaggerated self depreciation or boasting is also common, ranting, in a sense embodies Ne- wacky and fun

Ni- Se: Parody, jokes that don’t seem like jokes, obviously incorrect statements, jokes at the wrong time because it seemed okay when you were planning it, may rely on the underlying meaning of a joke- this is partly why people don’t typically find Ni users to be funny.