Jared Loughner

Killer Asks Pt. II
  • Albert Fish: Do you have a fetish/kink nobody knows about?
  • James Holmes: Have you ever dyed your hair, and if so, what color?
  • Edmund Kemper: How tall are you?
  • Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka: Are you currently in a relationship?
  • Aileen Wuornos: Have you ever smoked a cigarette?
  • David Berkowitz: What's the weirdest thing that's ever happened to you?
  • Seung-Hui Cho: Were you born someplace other than where you live now?
  • TJ Lane: When is your birthday?
  • Jared Loughner: Your political affiliation(s)?
  • Ted Kaczynski: Math: Love it or fuck it?
  • Andrei Chikatilo: Something you're really good at?
  • Ian Brady and Myra Hindley: All time favorite picture you've ever taken with someone? (Can post or describe, whichever you're comfortable with!)

Top 10 Facts/Statistics of Mass Shootings (particularly in the United States).


These are photos of right-wing haters in recent years – the first three terrorists actually killed people; the last guy only threatened to kill when he attended an Obama health care reform meeting in New Hampshire.

What’s appalling about what people like this do doesn’t end with the massacres they commit.  What’s appalling continues with how the media treat them.  The basic story line is: they are mentally disturbed individuals.  Evidence is trotted out to prove the point.  (In America, there’s the additional rush to prove the killer didn’t buy his gun legally, as if that actually matters or makes a difference.)  In the greater scheme of things, terrorists like this all get to be seen as tragic but random perpetrators with no connection to each other.

Yes, the terrorists who shoot children and Congresswomen and blow up buildings and assassinate doctors providing legal abortions etc. etc. etc. generally have some form of mental illness, but they share something else as well – a right-wing ideology of hate. They hate government, liberals, immigrants, Muslims… and they kill what they hate. 

When Muslim terrorists kill, they are said to be part of an organized world-wide enemy, or maybe members of independent cells who share a world-wide Islamic ideology.  Little if any discussion of whether they might be disturbed individuals as well.  But these white, right-wing Christian (or Western) terrorists like the ones shown above are just disturbed individuals, with little or no discussion of the right-wing extremism they all share in one form or another. 

And the carnage they commit continues…

Gabrielle Giffords had ‘staring contest’ with shooter, husband says

(Photo: Stringer / Reuters)

In her first face-to-face confrontation with the man who shot her in the head at close range and killed six others in an Arizona shooting rampage last year, former U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords locked eyes with Jared Lee Loughner in an intense courtroom scene Thursday.

Loughner, 24, was sentenced to life in prison after killing six people, including a 9-year-old girl, and leaving 13 wounded in a parking lot attack in Tucson during a political rally on Jan. 8, 2011. Giffords, who struggles to walk and has been left partially blind with a paralyzed right arm, stared intently at Loughner while holding hands with her husband, retired astronaut Mark Kelly, as he read an emotional statement to Loughner.

Read the complete story.

Should A Person Under Arrest Be Made To Take Medication?

There’s the idea of Jared Lee Loughner comes to mind.  At one point, he was considered to be “a danger to himself”, and almost forced to take medication to become compotent.  Now, they are holding off on that.

There is an interesting question, in which I’ll play devil’s advocate.  Even in an anarchist society, there would be a court set up to deal with someone who has offended, and those who have been offended.  The question arises if the person who is the offender is mentally unstable or otherwise deficient, how does the court deal with that person in an anarchist society?  The whole idea of anarchy is living freely, and not having someone else impede on your life.  

So how does an anarchist society deal with someone who may be mentally unstable, and moreover that person has been the instigator of a crime like attempted murder?  Does the society rise up and try to help the person?  If the person isn’t cognizant of their disability, how can they recognize their wrong-doing - that being murder?

Eric Harris age 18 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 17 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical records have never been made available to the public.

Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.

Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.

Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.

Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.

Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.

Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.

Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.

A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.

Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..

A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.

Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.

TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.

Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.

James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.

Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania

Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California

Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.

Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.

Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic’s file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.

Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.

Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.

Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.

Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.

Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family’s Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.

Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara’s parents said “…. the damn doctor wouldn’t take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…”)

Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002,
(Gareth’s father could not accept his son’s death and killed himself.)

Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family’s detached garage.

Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.

Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.

Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.

A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.

Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”

Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.

Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.

Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.

Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his
New York high school.

Missing from list… 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds….

What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21…… killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az

What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24….. killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado

What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or

What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct
Roberts is the only one that I haven’t heard about being on drugs of some kind. “

—  This is the last post John Noveske made on his Facebook page before he was killed
Who Would You Like To See Rod Ferrell Of The Vampire Clan Draw Next?

So far he has done James Holmes, Dylann Roof, and Ricky Kasso.  Which images below would you like to see him draw?

TJ Lane in his KILLER shirt

David Berkowitz Son of Sam mugshot

Richard Ramirez the Nightstalker in court

Eric and Dylan in the cafeteria 04/20/99

Barry Loukaitis Mugshot

Jared Lee Loughner New York Post Cover

Timothy McVeigh Mugshot

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Rolling Stone Cover

Please vote and wait and see what comes of it…


This Day in True Crime

8 January: the 2011 Tucson shooting

On 8 January 2011, Jared Lee Loughner (pictured above left) made an attempt on the life of U.S. Representative Gabbie Giffords (picture above right) in a shooting in a Safeway parking lot in Tucson, Arizona at around 10:10am local time. The shooting left six people, including a nine-year-old girl, a federal District Court judge, and one of Giffords’ staffers, fatally wounded. Giffords was severely injured, but she survived a gunshot wound to the head. Since then, she recovered well and has been an outstanding advocate for gun control.

In 1865 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.

In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States who later died from the wound.

In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.

In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.

In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.

In 1984 James Hubert, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.

In 1986 Patrick Sherrill, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.

In 1990 James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.

In 1991 George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby’s cafeteria.

In 1995 James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.

In 1999 Larry Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.

In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US.

In 2003 Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.

In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung - Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.

In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in the head thus wounding her for life.

In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes, went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.

In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.

In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a school.

As recently as Sept 2013, an angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy ship yard.

In 2016 a registered Muslim Democrat murdered 49 people in an Orlando night club.

One could go on, but you get the point, even if the media does not. Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns. Not one NRA member, Tea Party member, or Republican conservative was involved in these shootings and murders.

It should be illegal for Democrats to own guns. Best idea I’ve heard to date.

horrible people and  their signs (5 each)
  • Aries: alec baldwin, piers morgan, michael fassbender, dylann roof, hugh hefner
  • Taurus: chris brown, rick santorum, adolf hitler, adam lanza, saddam hussein
  • Gemini: donald trump, iggy azalea, mark wahlberg, jeffery dahmer, joan rivers
  • Cancer: bill cosby, dzhokhar tsarnaev, shane dawson, michael vick, o.j. simpson
  • Leo: joseph jackson, fidel castro, roman polanski, kylie jenner, sean penn
  • Virgo: mike hucabee, bill o'reilly, dylan kledbold, chris christie, whitey bulger
  • Libra: vladimir putin, jared lee loughner, eminem, john lennon, kirk cameron
  • Scorpio: onision, charles manson, scott peterson, whoopi goldberg, jenny mccarthy
  • Sagittarius: woody allen, james holmes, ted cruz, ted bundy, taylor swift
  • Capricorn: rush limbaugh, nash grier, sean hannity, tiger woods, paula deen
  • Aquarius: jeb bush, bill maher, sarah palin, kim jong ii, stonewall jackson
  • Pisces: justin bieber, rick perry, terrence howard, robin thicke, osama bin laden