Defense-Law

Okay, but Garak and Jadzia eating lunch together just so they can gossip about everyone else on the station.

people need to stop saying that the accords were bad because the Avengers were put in prison. Like have you even read the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights???? 

I am assuming most people haven’t so I’m just going to highlight a few things here: 

Article 5.

No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

Article 6.

Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.

Article 7.

All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.

Article 8.

Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.

Article 9.

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

Article 10.

Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.

Now, all UN legislation has to be compliant to these rights (among other things). Let me repeat that:  ALL UN LEGISLATION HAS TO BE COMPLIANT TO THESE RIGHTS. 

It is literally impossible for the Avengers to be imprisoned for a long period of time WITHOUT a trial. Yes, they can be held in jail until the date of a trial is set and then they can remain in jail until the day they are tried (just like any other human being). And yes, they need a higher level security prison to hold criminals that hold so much power, but, to assume that the Avengers were gonna be kept in that prison without a trial is literally laughable.

Now, since it is a high level prison, it is obvious that they have spent some time thinking where they would contain them. It is obvious that they were planning to use this jail if any of the Avengers actually went rogue, which in turn means the prison MUST pass the conditions established by human rights law across the world. 

So let’s break down the prison, shall we? 

The location is unknown but it is held underwater. This is not in violation to any rights, given that it does not break the “Accommodation for prisoners shall provide adequate cubic content of air, floor space, lighting, heating and ventilation” clause. The place has ventilation, will obviously have heating if needed, and lighting was rather good. The room sizes themselves were rather spacious, which, again, more than complies with International regulations. 

Next we see that the rooms themselves are reinforced, which comes as no surprise considering who they are dealing with. This too does not go against any clauses under the article  of Right to an Adequate Standard of Living. 

Then we have to consider Wanda’s collar. It seems to be able to give out an electrical charge if necessary to stop her from using her powers. Now, given that it is not actively harming her, nor is it affecting he mental capabilities, one could legally make the argument that it does not fall under torture as described under the charter (act by which severe physical or mental pain or suffering is intentionally inflicted on a person, other than that which is inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions). Of course, one could also argue that if this has been legally sanctioned, then the use of the collar is lawful and therefore does not break human rights laws. Not only that, but under the charter, strong forms of physical force ARE allowed IF the situation requires it (i.e. someone is trying to break out), but of course an investigation will follow to see if it was truly required. It is also important to note that, given the fact that they have not been given a trial as of yet, it is impossible to determine the legality of that damn thing so an argument could be made that it is indeed immoral (though, as I stated before, it cannot currently be said that it is torture). 

Apart from that, they have done nothing to these people. Let me repeat that: they have done NOTHING to the former avengers. 

Furthermore, the US secretary of State would NOT be in control of the prison and the fact that Ross decided to just incarcerate them there without giving the movie audience much of an explanation calls into question the very fact of its authenticity; meaning, we do not know if this is just Ross acting on his own. 

Regardless of whether it is Ross or not, governmental institutions are in their right to imprison those that have broken international law. Let me repeat that: Once international law has been broken, governments around the world have the right to take action and no, not because it is your favorite character means they don’t deserve to go to prison. 

Did the movie try to paint the prison in a bad light? Yes. Did the Russo brothers know about international law and actually thought through the viability of a prison like that? No they did not. Did they take the time to actually show us a more realistic process of legal processing? No, fuck no. Is it okay for them to have been imprisoned without trial? It actually is, IF a trial was promised and a date was set. You CANNOT legally imprison ANYONE unless they have had trial, so, again, the prison wasn’t so much a product of the Accords as it was just a physical show of the Russo’s vast ignorance and desire to produce cheap, idiotic and nonexistent issues. 

Aaron loves Mr. Shifty!
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Defensive mother-in-law to-be, Chas Dingle, who’s hit on said intended relative in front of her child he is to wed … at a wedding and being quoted on their wedding day. … Who would have thought that we’d live to see the day? Me!

… It’s hours later and I’m still giggling.