“I’m working on my first film. It’s a documentary. So I gave up everything in my life, I’m practically broke now, but I’ve always wanted to do it so I’m jumping off the ledge to see what happens.”

“How’s it going so far?”

“It’s okay. We have to hand in a first draft of it. So far it feels good. It’s about hockey. About the history of black athletes in hockey.”

“Did you raise money through Kickstarter or anything like that?”

“I did raise some money through Indiegogo. I did that for a little bit, but a lot of the money came from just … I sold my condo, racked up my credit cards. I got some money from Telus; they have a little thing for their Optik Channel. So yeah …”