30 seconds of victory

Character Typing Hell: An example

Lest you think I was joking, here’s an example.

Matt Murdoch from Daredevil (Netflix). I think he’s an ISFP because he’s impulsive, makes his decisions generally from a place of what he believes is the right thing to do rather than what makes the most sense to do, will not compromise to make others happy, centers his life around his moral mission, and so on.

Tumblr I usually trust, though I definitely have my points of disagreement (funkymbtifiction; usually good but I fundamentally disagree on some of the Fi/Fe emotion-based arguments): ESFP (unofficial typing). Not unreasonable; I think his Fi is stronger than his Se but I’m not 100% positive.

Reddit: 2 votes ISTP, 2 votes INFJ, only evidence provided is for one of the INFJ arguments:“extremely concerned with justice and has a vision of how things ought to be” ah yes only the holy INFJ cares about justice and change.

INTJ forum: mostly for ISTP because ‘kind of a loner’ and individual thinking and action…one person points out that leaving a known quantity lucrative big law job for ethical reasons is kind of Fi [my note: could be Fe too for that matter, but probably not inferior Fe guiding such a massive life choice], someone else says INFP and makes the same Fi argument and points out that ISTPs care about ‘looking cool’ and Matt…doesn’t? Anyway zero evidence provided for Ne. Breakdown: self-typed NJs think he’s an ISTP except one who says ISTJ with no evidence provided and also calls Foggy ‘comic relief guy’ and Karen ‘the chick’ so that person watched it; INFP thinks he’s an INFP.

Personality cafe: mostly for ISFJ or ISTJ, no evidence. One argument for “Daredevil struck me as NF, because of how strongly he believed in what he does.” THAT’S RIGHT. ONLY NFs HAVE CONVICTIONS.

Typology central: ISTP mostly. W/r/t other characters, someone decides that ‘S types play by the rules’ (hahahahahahahahahahahahaha have you met an Se dom ever). Then we get one of the most atrocious INFJ arguments I have ever seen in my goddamn life. Evidence provided: is an idealist (not strictly associated with MBTI, though I’ll grant it’s more tied to higher feeling functions); frustrated with reality (reality often sucks, I’m an Si dom and reality frustrates the shit out of me sometimes, this is just an opinion and not evidence of any function); believes in truth and justice (uh…don’t we all); takes unorthodox paths to achieve goals in a more immediate way (ALL HUMANS CAN HAVE GOALS OH MY FUCKING GOD and using an unconventional method for more immediacy screams NP or SP); “cares more about what is happening in the outside world than in his own” (Did you mean…sensor?) , poor at planning things out (….and so you decided he was AN NI DOM, YOU MOLDY CABBAGE?), learns and grows better…from “connecting the dots” of his experience (I cannot even at this point), says he can’t be an ISTP because he’s primarily motivated by morals, which I actually do agree with because unless he’s in a multi-year Fe-grip his Ti would be like “wait this makes no fucking sense” in about 30 seconds; then says “ISTPs are primarily motivated by victory” which, not really, far more motivated by what makes sense and like, what they want at the moment.

Then the rest of the forum is like “yes, yes, indeed” and then I closed the tab because it’s really not worth getting (more) enraged at 2-year-old ignorance.

MBTI blog I don’t particularly trust: ISFJ, just kind of puts down the ISFJ description without tying it to the character so not sure where you’re going there buddy

Mongolian chicken recipe: not about this but I did have this tab open concurrently and it’s at least as accurate as Typology central

Note: If you type a character the burden of proof is not just on the traits you see in them but also why this specifically indicates the type you have assigned. “Has morals”, “has goals”, and “values truth” and “cares about people” are cannot be attributed to any one type. The reason I drag a lot of INFJ typings is because they usually rely on those non-arguments almost exclusively. 

For some INFJ typings I actually respect: Asami from Legend of Korra, Liz Lemon from 30 Rock, and Amy Dunne from Gone Girl. There are actually solid arguments that rely on those characters’ future-focuses that supersede their perceptions of reality and their collective desire to be seen in a certain way by other people and in turn create a specific dynamic with those people (positive with Asami, neutral/varies with Liz, negative with Amy). Truth and caring about others barely enter into it; goals are specifically personal and symbolic, and morals are specifically external.

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