20 week abortion bans

I am in an clinic escort group.  This was shared with us so we could share this person’s story.  TW: Birth Defects

“I want to share a personal tragedy that has morphed into a nightmare from hell. I’m 23 wks pregnant and we wanted a baby. At my 20 wk appointment they found “concerns” resulting in a referral to the maternal fetal specialist, which resulted in an amniocentesis, the experience was fairly traumatic but a drop in the bucket compared to what followed. I got call Wednesday afternoon that my fetus is positive for trisomy 13, a fatal condition. The specialist asked if I had considered whether I wanted to continue the pregnancy then noted that I had no options in Alabama, as I was at 22 wks 6 days. The best she could do was give me phone number for a clinic in GA that she knew nothing about. My partner and I cried for the next 16 hours then began looking at options. My insurance will only cover the “procedure I am looking for” if I can find an in-network hospital to do it. After about 6 hours on the phone to hospitals all over the southeast, my insurance customer service, my ob/gyn, the fetal specialist, on call nurses, one of whom suggested I may have to “wait for nature to take it’s course” meaning continue until I eventually miscarry, give birth to a stillborn, or have a baby that will live a few days, upping my own health risks as well, I finally found the National Abortion Federation. They got me in at a clinic 2 states and 12 hours away. We drove thru the night Thursday to get there Friday morning in order to meet legal criteria of the 24 week gestational cut off. I had to call the specialist multiple times to send my test results and medical records. The ultrasound indicated the fetus head was too large, growing like some kind of mutant cancer, it pushed my legal gestation stage to 26 weeks (which I don’t understand). They couldn’t legally terminate. So we turned around and droveback 12 hours. Got back last night. The clinic for women, my ob/gyn, won’t even call in a Rx for a nerve pill to help me sleep. The nurse on call suggested benadryl. The NAF has provided me with a case manager to help me thru this and got me into a clinic in Colorado that specializes in fetal anomalies that will do the 4 day procedure this week. Family and friends are helping with cost of air travel and hotel. The procedure will be $10-12k, not covered by insurance. NAF is donating $6k. The clinic that tied to help me yesterday but couldn’t did all the medical legwork to get me in. I fly out tmrw. I feel abandoned by my doctors and specialists and insurance and the entire mainstream medical community. The baby killing abortion nazis (sarcasm) have been the support that has kept me from throwing myself down a flight of stairs, which would surely result in a charge of infanticide. I want every prolife asshole to know that their efforts have put my family thru the 7th circle of hell. I keep telling myself that it could be worse, I could have no support. My husbands afraid he won’t have a job when we get back. We are grieving the loss of a wanted pregnancy and baby.
This is the reality of abortion legislation. This is my life right now.The abortion doctor that couldn’t do the procedure is the only medical person in this situation who embraced me while I cried and told me that she cares about me and that I would get thru this.

Between family and friends, we will have the roughly $4-5 k we need for the procedure plus travel funds. I can’t accept anyone else’s money without thinking of all the other women going thru this too. Anyone who wants to help, please donate to national abortion federation so they can help other women like me.   The tiller foundation, freedom fund, and last resort are other organizations that help with funding in these situations. And center for reproductive rights fights bullshit legislation. I just want for no one else to go thru this or drink bleach or go to a butcher to try to manage this situation. This is just devastating.”

Update:  “Thank you for the support, everyone. Tmrw will be hard, they will first euthanize the little guy. But I just keep thinking about how hard it would be to keep carrying him, 4, 8, 12, 16 weeks, waiting for him to die and hoping he doesn’t kill me in the process. Having everyone and their brother asking me with excitement about The Baby. Thinking about what might have been. Wondering if we can put ourselves thru this to try again one day. Worrying about our parents worrying about us. Everytime I feel him move I want to throat punch a republican. This should already be over in a local hospital with my family at my side. The final stage of delivery is Thursday and they offer cremation. Everyone that says, what can i do to help? I say, tell everyone you fucking know exactly what bullshit the “prolife” agenda is putting me and *****, my spouse, and our families through. This is not theoretical. This is our actual life right now.”


Breaking: Ohio Gov. John Kasich signs 20-week abortion ban into law; vetoes “heartbeat bill”

  • Last week, two separate abortion restrictions cleared the Ohio legislature and moved toward Gov. John Kasich’s desk. 
  • The one that dominated headlines was the “heartbeat bill,” it would have made it illegal for Ohio women to terminate a pregnancy after six weeks.
  • On Tuesday, Kasich signed the other one, the 20-week abortion ban, according to the Associated Press.
  • Despite its being unconstitutional under Roe v. Wade, the 20-week ban is more likely to hold up in court than the heartbeat bill.
  • Laws similar to the heartbeat bill have been struck down in North Dakota and Arkansas.
  • But abortion restrictions like those put forth in the 20-week ban stand in a number of states. Read more

Do not be fooled by Kasich vetoing the 6 week abortion ban bill in Ohio. That bill was never going through. It was a red herring to make Kasich’s 20 week ban look more reasonable. The 20 week abortion ban lacks exceptions for rape and incest just like the 6 week one did. Make no mistake that Kasich and his Republican friends intend to chip away at abortion rights little by little while proposing huge jumps which they then nix as a way to lull people into gratefully accepting the smaller cut backs.

Do not let states get away with this. Ohio is not the first to enact a 20 week ban. Many unsurvivable fetal complications are not detectable until after the 20th week. This bill will force people to carry and give birth to unviable pregnancies. Bills like this will try to trick you into happily welcoming incremental encroachments on your rights. Do not give them a fucking inch.

Only 1.5% of women who have abortions even have them after 20 weeks, and whatever the reasons they need those abortions, their choices are far too nuanced and personal for us to ever believe we could create a policy around them. These are decisions for families to make, not politicians.
—  jessicavalenti on her own 28-week pregnancy, 20-week abortion bans, and why choice still matters

Why Senate GOP Leaders are Holding a Hearing on a 20-Week Abortion Ban — But Not on a Supreme Court Nominee 

Today, the committee is reviewing a bill that would ban abortion at 20 weeks of pregnancy nationwide — a ban so extreme it already failed in the Senate. That’s right: The same Republican leaders who are obstructing a Supreme Court nominee are focusing on a failed bill to restrict access to safe, legal abortion. Why? Because they have wildly misplaced priorities that come at the expense of women’s health and a functioning Senate. 

Read more here: http://ppact.io/21s81uu

Kentucky lawmakers propose ban on abortions after 20-week mark

  • Legislators in Kentucky marked their first session of the year with the proposal of a bill that would make it illegal for women to receive an abortion after 20 weeks.
  • According to the Lexington Herald Leader, the Senate is slated to convene for a vote on the legislation some time this week. 
  • If senators vote yes on the bill, known as Senate Bill 5, it would move on to the House, where Speaker Jeff Hoover said it would be met with “overwhelming support.” Read more

anonymous asked:

Fetuses can't feel pain right?

An excellent article on the subject by Katie McDonough from Salon

Fetal pain is a lie: How phony science took over the abortion debate

Since Nebraska first jump-started the trend back in 2010, close to a dozen state legislatures across the country have passed laws banning abortion at 20 weeks. Most of these restrictions are given grave-sounding titles like the “Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act,” or some near-identical riff on the words “fetal,” “pain” and “protection.” All of them, no matter what they’re called, rest on the stated premise that a fetus can experience pain at 20 weeks, and that this is a sufficient justification to ban all abortions after this gestational stage.

But “fetal pain” in the popular discourse is a nebulous concept, one that lawmakers like Jodie Laubenberg, Trent Franks and others haven’t much bothered to define or help ground in available medical evidence.

Probably because there really isn’t any. The limited research used to support such claims has been refuted as pseudoscience by both the Journal of the American Medical Association and the British Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. (Not to mention smaller studies from researchers at Harvard University, University College London and elsewhere.)

“We know a lot about embryology [in the field]. The way that a fetus grows and develops hasn’t changed and never will,” Dr. Anne Davis, a second-trimester abortion provider, associate professor of clinical obstetrics and gynecology at Columbia University Medical Center, and consulting medical director at Physicians for Reproductive Health, told Salon. “And what we know in terms of the brain and the nervous system in a fetus is that the part of the brain that perceives pain is not connected to the part of the body that receives pain signals until about 26 weeks from the last menstrual period, which is about 24 weeks from conception.”

Because the neural structures necessary to feel pain have not yet developed, any observable responses to stimuli at this gestational stage — like the fetal “flinching” during an amniocentesis — are reflexive, not experiential. Which is to say, the fetus at 20 weeks can’t actually feel anything at all. Which is to say, the fundamental justification for these laws is a really big, really popular lie.

“That’s just where the science is. You can have an opinion about that, but it doesn’t change the information,” Davis says. “Science is not going to get the brain to connect faster.” (Neither, it should be noted, will the hoping, wishing or foot-stomping of politicians like Marco Rubio and his anti-choice contemporaries.)

And yet, despite ample research debunking claims about fetal pain, the political narrative arguing otherwise continues to dominate. Facts about embryology and the science of gestational development are often ignored outright or framed as somehow extraneous to the debates taking place, and reproductive rights opponents have been wildly successful in selling these bans as emotional issues — that support for them should come from the gut, not from thick tomes of medical facts.


Two years ago, I became actively pro-life. At that time, there were four abortion facilities in Austin, Texas, where I live. One Planned Parenthood, one Whole Woman’s Health (a notoriously dangerous Texas-based chain), and two independent facilities.

That same summer, Texas passed a state law banning abortions after 20 weeks and increasing the standards for abortion facilities. It was Wendy Davis’ filibuster of that law, ironically, that made me sit up and pay attention to the killing of preform children not only in my country, but in my state and city.

Now, two years later, I’ve just gotten word that after this week we will only have one abortion facility in Austin. Over the last two years, one abortion facility closed (the Whole Woman’s Health) and another has stopped committing abortions (one of the independent facilities, where the abortionist and his wife lived in the facility - shudder).

After this week, another independent abortion facility will stop committing abortions, leaving us with only one - the Planned Parenthood - on which we can focus our efforts.

I am so excited. Two years after I realized I needed to do something, we are so, SO close to abolishing abortion in the Austin area.

I invite you to celebrate with me, and to thank God for sparing so many of the preborn children in Texas.

I also invite you to look at your own communities. Where can you focus your efforts? I pray that some day every single community will be abortion-free. But God does not call us to sit by. He calls us to pray, and He also calls us to stand up and speak.

We will abolish abortion. We’re already well on our way!

How Many Medical Experts Does It Take to Write a 20-Week Abortion Ban Bill in Wisconsin? Apparently None.

Earlier this month, Wisconsin State Senator Mary Lazich debated a 20-week abortion ban with lawmakers on the state Joint Health Committee. Governor Scott Walker is now set to sign the dangerous ban — which does not have exceptions for rape or incest — into law. You won’t believe the debate that went into passing this extreme abortion ban.

During the hearing on June 2, state Rep. JoCasta Zamarripa asked Sen. Lazich some reasonable questions about the bill. Sen. Lazich’s responses were, at best, condescending and inaccurate.

That’s Rep. Zamarripa asking whether the authors of the bill had any medical training, since the bill is directly related to women’s health and would interfere in women’s medical decisions. Makes sense, right? Not to Sen. Lazich…

Sen. Lazich snapped back at Rep. Zamarripa, clearly not understanding that interfering in women’s and families’  medical decisions should require a little consultation from medical professionals.

Rep. Zamarripa rephrases the question to make sure that someone involved in writing this bill had some kind of medical training, since that might be important in medical decision-making.

Sen. Lazich is obviously confused by this concept. As a professional #gynotician, she apparently doesn’t need any medical training or advice when drafting a bill that, as Rep. Zamarripa points out to her, could harm the lives of many women. Judging by the audience’s reaction (“gasp!”), we’d say very few people agreed with her.

Let’s get one thing straight: Abortions at 20 weeks are exceedingly rare. In fact, nearly 99 percent of abortions occur before 21 weeks. When they are needed later in pregnancy, it’s often in very complex circumstances, including severe fetal anomalies.

Bottom line: A 20-week abortion ban would have a direct impact on the exact kind of situations where a woman and her doctor need every medical option available. That’s what makes Sen. Lazich’s comments so infuriating.

Check out the exchange here. (h/t Raw Story)