*the fountain

starrystarrypragmatist  asked:

Hi there! I was wondering if the fact that the male protagonist of Midnight in Paris, Gil Pender begins by narrating that the protagonist of the book he is writing owns an antique shop is in fact, a foreshadowing of the future he is going to have with the girl from the antique shop who shares his love for all stuff, nostalgia related. That foreshadowing seemed very Ni to me, so my question: Difference between Ni foreshadowing and Ne foreshadowing, be it in books or movies?

To be honest, that seems like Ne foreshadowing to me because it’s obvious, impersonal, and immediately understandable by the laymen. Ni tends to see things in terms of personalized symbolic representations that the external audience may or may not understand or fully grasp, even if they are also Ni’s.

Midnight in Paris‘ writer, Woody Allen, is an INFP, so it’s all very Ne/Si. The true message of the movie is dissatisfaction in your life; the inability to live in the present but the lower Si tendency to dwell in the past; that each generation’s NP’s long for a more wonderful, romanticized, idealized time. But, in typical high Ne fashion, while celebrating nostalgia, it’s also simultaneously debunking the myth of the past as being superior to the present.

(As a writer, I too fight this a lot – an undying love for the past while at the same time, seeing its harsh realities; wanting to mythologize it in fiction but not escape its cruelties. I dwell in a world of BUT IT WAS SO AMAZING… AND HORRIBLE. I do foreshadowing too, but you can see it when you look back.)

There are two things I’ve seen that screamed Ni foreshadowing / symbolism to me – one is The Fountain, in which the symbols are all entwined and it’s about death and eternal life and missing out on the present by dwelling in the future, and if you’re paying attention you can discern the ending from the beginning through the multiple narratives as they unfold. (Darren Aronofsky is an INFJ, so all his movies are very, very Ni.)

The other is the television series Hannibal, which steeps itself in individualized symbolic representations – not the least of which is Will Graham envisioning Hannibal as a wendigo (a flesh-eating monster) long before he becomes consciously aware of Hannibal’s true identity. The series peppers weird, surreal imagery throughout to represent all the characters. In the first season, we see a stag torn asunder – which foreshadows events toward the end of the first season and parts of the second season.

Some good Se/Ni foreshadowing is Crimson Peak, where the butterflies and ants carry meaning, where the house is an embodiment of evil / trapped souls, etc. It’s in a sense more relate-able to a bystander than straight up Ni-dom stuff, but it’s still fascinating from an abstract perspective.

- ENFP Mod

a fake deep guys guide to cinema

i’m trying to put together a list for a very specific purpose, a purpose that concerns movies that a certain type of guy is overtly infatuated with. the kind of guys perhaps best described as “try hard” or “fake deep”.
note that inclusion on this list does not mean that the movie is bad, but I cannot be the only one who has noticed a certain kind of guy and an obsession with these movies.
please feel free to add movies that you think fit the profile, or argue why one should be excluded.

Fight Club
The Fountain
Everything Tarantino
Gone Girl
The Dark Knight
American History X
American Beauty
American Psycho
Blade Runner
V for Vendetta
Léon: The Professional