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Jennifer Morrison talks about "Dark Swan" and the future of Once Upon a Time.

At the Fairy Tales III Convention in Paris, LBA interviewed Jennifer Morrison during eight minutes. She talked about the new status of Emma, “Dark Swan”, her relationship with her parents and Hook, and the future of the show.

LBA: After that finale, what are your thoughts and process in getting into this whole new (dark) side of Emma? How will you approach that side of the character?

Jennifer: We don’t even have a first script yet. I mean I think the first script exists but the actors haven’t seen it yet so I’m going off of the ideas that Adam Kitsis and Eddy Horowitz have talked about the directions they’ve indicated that it seems that things are going.

My initial starting place with Dark Emma was to think about opposites. So if she’s someone who’s always tried to overcome the pain of loss and abandonment and betrayal then what’s the opposite of that? And if she’s someone who when she’s been asked to be the savior, she steps in and tries to do the right thing, what the opposite of that? If she’s someone who’s for the most part pretty understated and you know, in jeans and a leather jacket what’s the opposite of that?

So I’ve started from a place of looking at the opposite of whatever is light and good about her and looking at the other side of that… So that was sort of the beginning puzzle piece for that.

And then Eddy and Adam and I have talked about the different places that light and dark Swans have shown up in mythology and shown up in different fairy tales and I’ve been spending some time doing some research, looking deeper into all of that to sort of see where those references are, historically and see what things can be subtly woven in there, be a part of it, you know, be a part of what’s going on.

I think one of the most powerful ideas about Dark Swan is that she’s free of the burden of having to be the savior. That’s a whole different thing! And so when you’re not tethered to having to do the right thing- which, I’m not saying this is a healthy mindset- I’m just saying from the perspective of building this character in considering in what it would really mean to be tethered to the darkness, then it opens up a whole different realm of selfishness, indulgence and need and demand… And lack of empathy. So all of these things are direct opposites of what we’ve been used to seeing…

LBA: How do you think this will affect the relationships that she’s built with her parents, Regina, her son, Hook…

Jennifer: I think no matter what, it’s going to be a strain. Clearly because she’s not gonna be the person that she truly is but that being said, they know that she’s tethered to the darkness and that the darkness itself is an entity that’s overcome her. So it’s not as if Emma is actually making these terrible decisions. She isn’t actually this person. They need to find a way to save her from needing to be tethered to this darkness. So, I think they will have a self awareness and awareness of the fact that this isn’t actually who she is but there will be a strain in the sense that they won’t be able to anticipate what she might do or what she might be capable of because it’s so different from who she truly is.

LBA: Which is also kind of awesome because it enables you to explore a whole new kind of interactions with other actors also.

Jennifer: Absolutely, it’s very exciting to start season 5 of a television show with such a wonderful new challenge and whole new character to create. It’s very unusual to have such a wonderful opportunity.

LBA: Looking back at season 4, what was your favorite souvenir from filming?

Jennifer: There are lot of pretty wonderful things from season 4. Just because I think Emma was challenged in so many different ways. She’s had to face so many of her inner demons and her fears and it’s given her opportunities to grow in spite of the fact that it was painful to grow. There’s been a lot of wonderful things that she has had a chance to face.
But there are always moments within a season where you feel like you just get to have fun in a scene and that’s also part fo the joy of the job. I think of that moment when Emma, well, when they all return from the false reality of the villains. There’s a fun element to it, the first time she sees Hook, the first time she sees her parents, you know, the reuniting of coming through a journey like that. Having those scenes where you just get to enjoy the relief of being back. We don’t get to be relieved and joyful very often on the show so when we do those moments it kind of stands out as fun for us even as actors, because you get to be smiling and enjoy each other. You get to take a breath. It’s nice.

LBA: Going forward in season 5 and beyond we hope, how do you see Emma evolving? How do you see her in a couple of years, what will be her place with her family, with Hook, in her role as a mother…

Jennifer: Right now it’s hard to see past what might happen once she’s Dark Swan. Because whatever happens in this period where she’s Dark Swan and is dealing with being the dark one and being tethered to the darkness is going to change her forever.

She’s going to be facing something that is so beyond what she’s ever faced and it’s going to force her to sort of deal with herself in a way that she’s never had to… And I don’t know what that means for her on the other side of that.
I’m in a position right now where I don’t know what the writing is going to be and I don’t know what the choices are going to be and I don’t know exactly what it is that they’re going to ask her to overcome. It’s very hard for me to project beyond that, what anything will look like.

I think it’s very exciting that the roles are flipped now; where’s she’s been asked to save her family and to save so many fairytales for so long, she’s been asked to be the savior, and now everyone else has to save her and so I think it’s an interesting thing because often times when you’re a caretaker in life, it is very hard to let yourself be taken care of. So there will be an interesting challenge, there will be something that will change in her because of everyone stepping up in taking care of her and reaching out to save her. There’s going to be numerous layers of things going on that are going to change. It’s completely flipped upside down, it’s very exciting.

Jennifer Morrison discute de ‘Dark Swan’ et du futur de Once Upon a Time   

LBA: After that finale, what are your thoughts and process in getting into this whole new (dark) side of Emma? How will you approach that side of the character?
Jennifer: We don’t even have a first script yet. I mean I think the first script exists but the actors haven’t seen it yet so I’m going off of the ideas that Adam Kitsis and Eddy Horowitz have talked about the directions they’ve indicated that it seems that things are going.
My initial starting place with Dark Emma was to think about opposites. So if she’s someone who’s always tried to overcome the pain of loss and abandonment and betrayal then what’s the opposite of that? And if she’s someone who when she’s been asked to be the savior, she steps in and tries to do the right thing, what the opposite of that? If she’s someone who’s for the most part pretty understated and you know, in jeans and a leather jacket what’s the opposite of that?
So I’ve started from a place of looking at  the opposite of whatever is light and good about her and looking at the other side of that… So that was sort of the beginning puzzle piece for that.
And then Eddy and Adam and I have talked about the different places that light and dark Swans have shown up in mythology and shown up in different fairy tales and I’ve been spending some time doing some research, looking deeper into all of that to sort of see where those references are, historically and see what things can be subtly woven in there, be a part of it, you know, be a part of what’s going on.

I think one of the most powerful ideas about Dark Swan is that she’s free of the burden of having to be the savior. That’s a whole different thing! And so when you’re not tethered to having to do the right thing- which, I’m not saying this is a healthy mindset- I’m just saying from the perspective of building this character in considering in what it would really mean to be tethered to the darkness, then it opens up a whole different realm of  selfishness, indulgence and need and demand… And lack of empathy. So all of these things are direct opposites of what we’ve been used to seeing…


LBA:
How do you think this will affect the relationships that she’s built with her parents, Regina, her son, Hook…
Jennifer: I think no matter what, it’s going to be a strain. Clearly because she’s not gonna be the person that she truly is but that being said, they know that she’s tethered to the darkness and that the darkness itself is an entity that’s overcome her. So it’s not as if Emma is actually making these terrible decisions. She isn’t actually this person. They need to find a way to save her from needing to be tethered to this darkness. So, I think they will have a self awareness and awareness of the fact that this isn’t actually who she is but there will be a strain in the sense that they won’t be able to anticipate what she might do or what she might be capable of because it’s so different from who she truly is.


LBA:
Which is also kind of awesome because it enables you to explore a whole new kind of interactions with other actors also.
Jennifer: Absolutely, it’s very exciting to start season 5 of a television show with such a wonderful new challenge and whole new character to create. It’s very unusual to have such a wonderful opportunity.


LBA:
Looking back at season 4, what was your favorite souvenir from filming?
Jennifer: There are lot of pretty wonderful things from season 4. Just because I think Emma was challenged in so many different ways. She’s had to face so many of her inner demons and her fears and it’s given her opportunities to grow in spite of the fact that it was painful to grow. There’s been a lot of wonderful things that she has had a chance to face.
But there are always moments within a season where you feel like you just get to have fun in a scene and that’s also part fo the joy of the job. I think of that moment when Emma, well, when they all return from the false reality of the villains. There’s a fun element to it, the first time she sees Hook, the first time she sees her parents, you know, the reuniting of coming through a journey like that. Having those scenes where you just get to enjoy the relief of being back. We don’t get to be relieved and joyful very often on the show so when we do those moments it kind of stands out as fun for us even as actors, because you get to be smiling and enjoy each other. You get to take a breath. It’s nice.


LBA: Going forward in season 5 and beyond we hope, how do you see Emma evolving? How do you see her in a couple of years, what will be her place with her family, with Hook, in her role as a mother…
Jennifer:
Right now it’s hard to see past what might happen once she’s Dark Swan. Because whatever happens in this period where she’s Dark Swan and is dealing with being the dark one and being tethered to the darkness is going to change her forever.
She’s going to be facing something that is so beyond what she’s ever faced and it’s going to force her to sort of deal with herself in a way that she’s never had to… And I don’t know what that means for her on the other side of that.
I’m in a position right now where I don’t know what the writing is going to be and I don’t know what the choices are going to be and I don’t know exactly what it is that they’re going to ask her to overcome. It’s very hard for me to project beyond that, what anything will look like.
I think it’s very exciting that the roles are flipped now; where’s she’s been asked to save her family and to save so many fairytales for so long, she’s been asked to be the savior, and now everyone else has to save her and so I think it’s an interesting thing because often times when you’re a caretaker in life, it is very hard to  let yourself be taken care of. So there will be an interesting challenge, there will be something that will change in her because of everyone stepping up in taking care of her and reaching out to save her. There’s going to be numerous layers of things going on that are going to change. It’s completely flipped upside down, it’s very exciting. [x]


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Torres was not high or drunk. He didn’t know what to do. He felt empty and useless. He breathed out and slowly moving his body towards the door. He went out of the hotel, bored not knowing what to do. A lot of incidence replayed in his mind. He didn’t know who he could trust or rely on. He knew he did fuck up people’s life. That’s all he did.

He breathed in Rio’s atmosphere. For the first time, he went out of his hotel room after the bus incident. He was debating with himself whether he should go to the hospital to see his friends. But, no. He didn’t feel like it. He just walked along the way in Rio. The sunshine was too light for him so he . He slowly getting his cigarette out of his pocket, looking down. He bumped into someone and dropped his cigarette somewhere. “Sorry…” he quickly searched for his cigarette before looking at the person’s face. Their face was a bit blurry to him because of the sunlight.

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