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I have a feeling this will become iconic in due time.  

I’ve watched this for like a dozen loops and I still crack up every time

[Singing] T-Birds: Well-a, well-a, well-a– Tell me more, tell me more, did'ya get very far? Pink Ladies: Tell me more, tell me more– Jules (in time, astonishingly): Does he look like a bitch?

I hope that this is the last remaining piece of media that aliens find after we destroy our planet.

Horacio thoughts

I really wonder why they gave Horacio children. We only see them AFTER he …ehm… went on a very long holiday to Spain. Before that they only exist marginally, mentioned in passing once? If we see domestic Horacio then only with his wife. Even when they got shot at, he is alone with his wife. Photograph in his office? Only of his wife. Is this meant to show that they are not really part of his life?

They could have included them easily, e.g. to show his dichotomy. After he shot the teenager, they could have showed him going home hugging his son? 

Any thoughts?

Yeah I find it weird he never talks about them, especially after an attempt on his life is made and they have to step up security at his house. Where did the kids go if it wasn’t safe for them to stay there?! We see Gaviria’s wife and kids leave the country for similar reasons, so it’s odd they didn’t bother showing us the same for Carrillo. 

I suppose it could go back to what we were saying yesterday about his tendency to compartmentalise, because he never talks about his wife or kids even to Javi, despite the fact they have an established rapport that pre-dates what we see in the show. Even in Explosivos, he talks generally to Javi about how if their op to catch Gacha goes badly, more orphans and widows will be left behind and he’ll have to bear the responsibility for it, but he doesn’t talk about it from the perspective of him being a father himself. I think in the scene where his colleague visits him to try and get him to take a bribe from Escobar, his ‘family’ is mentioned by his colleague in passing, but Carrillo himself doesn’t say anything about them. 

It’s also interesting that Escobar is portrayed in the show as a caring family man (and is shown physically comforting/protecting his kids on multiple occasions), despite all of the atrocities he commits. Perhaps another possible comparison/parallel between the two characters? Escobar uses his alleged concern for children against Carrillo after what goes down in Our Man in Madrid as well (by getting the kid who Carrillo gives the bullet to to talk to the media and indirectly reveal that Javi was also on the scene)…and if we’re going to talk about that episode, there must be an extreme amount of compartmentalisation going on in Carrillo’s head to shoot a child like that despite being a father himself.

Personally, I think it’s likely also an issue of time constraints and side plots/characters suffering because the main focus of the show always had to be Escobar and Steve/Javi (seen as it’s narrated from Steve’s perspective). I still wonder what the hell happened to Helena after Javi rescues her and also Marina Ochoa after Gustavo is killed!

I think it’s such an astute point that @seltsamkind made about how the show was demonstrating how Carrillo’s family wasn’t a big part of his life. But I also agree that time constraints and general neglect of side characters, as @cheesybadgers said, plays a big role. It would have been so interesting to see Carrillo’s family explored more.  

The Escobar/Carrillo dynamic is one of the most interesting parts of the show. The two characters were designed to be two sides of the same coin in many respects. Characterising Escobar as a family man puts him into direct contrast with Carrillo who, despite having a wife and kids, is always seen without them (besides from a few scenes). But maybe this is another case of family being integral to Escobar’s personhood while for Carrillo, his family doesn’t really play a decision in his actions. 

I’m no where near as articulate as you two but one of my biggest problems with the show is how it treats women. There is some redemption regarding this with greater focus on Tata and Judy Moncada in S2 and, to some extent, Maritza. But overall, most of the women in the show are meant to validate the men around them – ranging from proving that these men have feelings (re: Helena, Elisa Alvarez, Lorraine) or to be used as a tool for a revenge plot (re: Maria Ochoa). 

Totally agree about Carrillo and Escobar (still not over their phone call!) and wish we’d seen more of that play out.

Ooh yes good point @itssmashedavo about the different motivations of both men. Family appears to play a much bigger role for Escobar, whereas for Carrillo it’s more about doing it for the future of his country. 

Also agree about the shoddy treatment of most female characters. They even managed to send Connie away, even though the real life Connie stayed in Colombia. 

You two @cheesybadgers @itssmashedavo rise such good points.

You know when Rodrigo comes to his house and tells him about the bribe. It looks to me as if Horacio’s eyes tear up a bit at the end. One might interpret this that he was scared about his family but now I think maybe it was just his rage how Escobar could have had the audacity to bribe him. I mean wouldn’t this have been a thing to discuss with your wife? Did he even contemplate for a second to take the money (sure if you keep accepting Escobar’s bribe then this never stops) but you know, to keep his family safe? See, that’s why we need a spin-off series that looks into Horacio’s life before Escobar. He introduces his men to … what his name? … saying this is Trujillo he lost his father and brother etc but what about Horacio? Why is he so committed to end Escobar? What is his motivation?

I’m sure he did not even tell his wife about the bribe. Oh look honey, I have these sturdy locks on the door and men who barely reached adolescence in front of the house 24/7, it’s alright. That’s what I liked about Tata, she takes her protection into her own hands.

@cheesybadgers don’t get me started on Helena. No one can tell me that there was not more to their relationship than informant and DEA agent.

I’ve just gone back and watched the scene when Rodrigo and one of his other bosses visit his office and Horacio does say “I’ve put my family at risk”, which I think I’d forgotten about tbh. I think that’s about the only time he mentions them though!

Interestingly, Steve’s narration in this scene also points out that Horacio’s predecessor (Jaime Rodriguez) was murdered by Escobar, so that could partially explain his motivations for wanting to catch him so badly. Javi also says to Steve in another scene “You know I wouldn’t judge Carrillo….you had a partner killed, he’s had a dozen,” so I imagine he’s just sick and tired of seeing the people around him die. 

As for when Rodrigo comes to his house, I always thought he was devastated at the betrayal of yet another of his friends/colleagues giving in to corruption. Rodrigo says “Don’t look at me like that, Horacio. I’ve always cared for you,” before going on to say he’s only making the suggestion to save him and his family grief. So yeah I think it’s more the mere suggestion that he could be bought - especially coming from someone he trusted - that hurt him the most.  

But one thing I’ve always thought is painfully ironic about Carrillo is that he was so preoccupied with not being corrupted financially, he kind of forgot to notice there are plenty of other ways to be corrupted and you could argue the path he goes down in season 2 is exactly one of those other ways. Not gonna lie, that hurts to think about lol. 

And oh I’m quite sure he hid all of this from Juliana, or tried to anyway. Yet again, I think the writers did her a disservice, as she’s more of an afterthought in the background than a fully formed character. He clearly loves her and the affection between them is very sweet, but I can’t believe any wife would just…not have A LOT to say about it all? I’m damn sure I would 😂

And you’re so right about Helena, @seltsamkind! 

So on a recent rewatch, I noticed a scene where I *think* Horacio and Juliana are discussing their son being out with his girlfriend. Either that or they have a friend who's also named Horacio.

The exchange is basically-

Him: When will Horacio be here for dinner?

Her: I made the chicken he likes, but he's out with "the girlfriend".

This is the first time we see Juliana, and I think it's actually just sloppy continuity that they later have two kids. I think they were originally supposed to have one teenaged son, Horacio Jr. and that's it. Then they just tacked some kids in for the hell of it in the widow Carrillo scene.

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We were robbed of a beautiful ship being canon.

And also the random Underworld reference is fabulous.

Incorrect Narcos Quotes

I just realized I only liked this instead of reblogging and that's a crime.

There is nothing more satisfying than writing a fic and being frustrated with how bits of canon don't quite jive right with each other, only to realize it's FANFIC and therefore you can tweak things according to your needs.

Are you talking about the magical wormhole from Bogotá to Medellín in those tags? Because that shit is so confusing.

However did you guess? 🤣 I can’t believe the shock I got when I first looked up how far apart the two places actually are when the show makes it look like they’re a quick stroll round the corner from each other. Everyone sure takes a lot of flights in my fic 😂

I read something once that made it sound like the irl Murphy & Peña were based out of Medellín a lot. Like they did rotations where they were working at Carlos Holguin with Search Bloc.

There is nothing more satisfying than writing a fic and being frustrated with how bits of canon don't quite jive right with each other, only to realize it's FANFIC and therefore you can tweak things according to your needs.

Are you talking about the magical wormhole from Bogotá to Medellín in those tags? Because that shit is so confusing.

Narcos Season 2: “Our Man in Madrid”

@cheesybadgers also Trujillo hiding a grin in response to Javi’s Amen.

You have to admit, though, that Horacio is a bad influence 😉. They all are on each other. In my opinion, they should have brought dad Martínez in earlier to pull Horacio’s ears.

@seltsamkind​ Oh my god, yes! And the subtle glance down at him 😂

Oh boy yep, the way they all dance to his tune in this episode is absolutely WILD and they’re all total train wrecks but it makes for fascinating character analyses and fic material.

And you’re right, they needed dad Martinez to step in sooner! Although not sure how Carrillo would have dealt with not being in charge anymore, but I kind of wish we’d found out 👀

Serious question– did Carrillo ever *want* to be in charge? He wanted to put a bullet in Escobar’s skull and accepted that he needed to run Search Bloc to make that happen. But I don’t know that he needed to feel like he was running the show. He’s got “Must I do everything myself?” energy, not “Fuck you, I’m in charge!” energy.

If someone else was willing to lead and actually go after the narcos, I don’t think that would be an issue for Carrillo. I think he’d be like “Fucking finally! Also, can I bring my DEA boyfriend and his also-DEA boyfriend?”

Ooh good question! Personally, I think he saw it more as his duty/responsibility to his country to end it all than him craving to be in charge. But when Javi bribes General Jaramillo, Jaramillo says to Javi “But Carrillo only acts on his own orders. He doesn’t follow anyone.” 

I’m sure Carrillo says to Javi prior to this that Jaramillo hates his guts as well, hence why Javi resorts to bribing him…something that I’m still annoyed and a bit baffled never gets explored further in the show, because I wonder how Horacio ‘I hate corruption’ Carrillo would have reacted to the knowledge that he only got the job because his boss was bribed with US dollars by Javi of all people (like how does that never come up?! Wouldn’t he be suspicious he was suddenly handed the role despite Jaramillo disliking him?) 👀👀

So if Carrillo and Martinez had crossed paths and Carrillo was still active in the CNP (and I think it would take something pretty extreme for him to willingly walk away, seen as he didn’t stop for his family and was prepared to die), I’m really not sure how that would have gone down, because Carrillo likes things done his own way and apparently can’t follow other people’s orders. All I can imagine is one giant headache of paperwork and suspensions from Martinez’s point of view, especially if you add loyal boyfriend Javi and his hot mess of a moustache boyfriend to the mix as well 😂

Uh, I love this conversation. I wonder how Carrillo rose through the ranks in the first place if he does not like following orders.

This is actual footage of Martínez minding his own business and Carrillo riling him up.

Imagine Carrillo being woken up by someone throwing pebbles at his bedroom window at 2 am. When he opens the window, he sees Javier, Steve and Trujillo standing in front of his house, whisper yelling: Come one, we sneaked by Martínez. We are going on a raid!

They would be up to no good.

Ha I’ve wondered that very same thing about Carrillo! As we’ve talked about before, there are loads of awards and whatnot in his office, so presumably he must have behaved himself up until a certain point of his career 😂 

My personal headcanon is the war on drugs changed him, seen as he lost a lot of friends and colleagues (and his predecessor was murdered too) and a lot of that has happened off screen before we meet him. There are so many contradictions/unknowns about his character, I basically just pick and choose what I want and make up the rest myself lol. 

🤣 Poor Martinez would certainly have his work cut out.

I think he probably had no problem following orders when he could trust the people giving them. But once Escobar essentially came to power, he couldn't trust anyone. Even Rodrigo, who he apparently knew since he was a recruit, was working for Escobar. Hell yeah he's gonna do his Carrillo thing if he can't trust his bosses.

Narcos Season 2: “Our Man in Madrid”

@cheesybadgers also Trujillo hiding a grin in response to Javi’s Amen.

You have to admit, though, that Horacio is a bad influence 😉. They all are on each other. In my opinion, they should have brought dad Martínez in earlier to pull Horacio’s ears.

@seltsamkind​ Oh my god, yes! And the subtle glance down at him 😂

Oh boy yep, the way they all dance to his tune in this episode is absolutely WILD and they’re all total train wrecks but it makes for fascinating character analyses and fic material.

And you’re right, they needed dad Martinez to step in sooner! Although not sure how Carrillo would have dealt with not being in charge anymore, but I kind of wish we’d found out 👀

Serious question-- did Carrillo ever *want* to be in charge? He wanted to put a bullet in Escobar's skull and accepted that he needed to run Search Bloc to make that happen. But I don't know that he needed to feel like he was running the show. He's got "Must I do everything myself?" energy, not "Fuck you, I'm in charge!" energy.

If someone else was willing to lead and actually go after the narcos, I don't think that would be an issue for Carrillo. I think he'd be like "Fucking finally! Also, can I bring my DEA boyfriend and his also-DEA boyfriend?"

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