Post-Roe questions.
not the twitter migrants putting "reblog heavy" in their bios on here... like yeah. that's what we do here
reblog heavy
image quite literally heavy
Anonymous asked:
Same anon as before- I've seen the people going to hell thing get framed as good. Because they can be "saved" by converting/repenting and because only "bad" people go to hell. We're told "God loves all His children" and then given a confusing definition of who counts as "His children". In my experience the existence of other faiths was just kind of ignored, but the implication was there even if it was never addressed.
And that's the difference between good and benevelent, I think.
Because it's easier to pass things off as "good" when there's a focus on obedience to authority. "Good" is whatever the higher-ups want it to be.
"Benevelent" on the other hand, that's easier for people to judge on their own regardless of what their leaders say.
It's harder to justify things so that eternal torture is kind.
antisemitic christians are the most unserious people i stg they need to be studied by science the cognitive dissonance is astounding
like spoiler alert!! your lord and saviour was both jewish and israeli so maybe stop embarrassing your family 😊 and seek therapy
Hi,
I know you think you're saying a positive thing here, but there's no cognitive dissonance there. Liking 1 guy (if he existed) that is important to Christianity doesn't follow that they'd like the rest. But also, and more importantly, you shouldn't be racist or antisemitic because people deserve dignity and respect. Not because it's being tied back to "a guy"
Question for theists
Why are there degenerative diseases?
You’re asking the wrong group. That’s a question for research scientists.
I tried googling it because you made me curious, and the explanation went over my head (makes sense that it would though, I’m no biologist). Apparently, it may have something something to do with protein misfolding or toxic proteins occurring? But for what that means, your guess is as good as mine.
1. It’s interesting how your response changes depending on whether it’s me or @questions-for-christians asking the same thing verbatim.
When they asked it, your only response was to say that someone else’s response* was the reason your dad hates God.
Nothing whatsoever about the question being unrelated to religion.
2. It’s an entirely valid question to ask any theists who believe in any omnipotent and omnibenevolent deities.
If there were an omnibenevolent and omnipotent deity why would they choose to create degenerative diseases? That’s not the action of a benevolent deity.
You have now posed three different questions as though they are the same one.
How can you believe in Gd when there is cancer/disease/disaster gets the answer about my father
Why needs scientific answer
And then your new question, which skips a few steps. First, is Gd omnibenevelent? What does omnibenevelent mean?
But, more directly, I don’t believe Gd chose to create degenerative diseases. I believe they are a result of our mortality gone wrong.
Essentially, you put an awful lot of assumptions into your question that weren’t explicitly stated while looking for a very specific answer
I think you missed my reblog @atheostic, so I wanted to bring it back to continue the conversation.
Also, its been days and I’m still stuck on the idea that a god could be omnibenevelent. How would that even work? Are there any religions with that theology? I’d be interested to read more about it if there was.
Hi @rose-in-a-fisted-glove, I did see it and I promise I’m not ignoring you, I just haven’t got around to it yet.
I’m a school librarian and where I live we’re about 2 weeks away from the end of the school year, which means I’m utterly swamped at work with both mentally and physically exhausting tasks, so I haven’t had as much energy to respond to stuff. So I’m a bit slower at the moment to respond but I swear I haven’t forgotten about you!
Plus, sometimes it’s also nice to take some time to think about and consider what the other person’s said before responding, which I find ttends to be the case with our interactions (which is a good thing – it means your comments are engaging and make me have to actually think about the topic at hand).
Fair dice! I hope the end of the school year goes as smoothly as possible. Take your time.
I just got frustrated because you heavily implied I had some sort of bad faith intentions and then stopped responding right after I was trying to explain that.
This isn’t my full reply yet, but I came across this clip on YouTube that I think you might find of interest (it immediately made me think of our conversation):
Thanks for the thought, but after some side conversations, this seems to be a Christian cognitive dissonance and a conflation of their hierarchical views of Goodness and using the term omnibenevelent.
You see, I thought that you were saying there was some sort of omnibenevelent god figure in a religion. Which would be fascinating to learn about how that would work as far as theology and worship is concerned. Sadly, that doesn't seem to be the case. Precision of language failure on the part of Christian theology (if I can paraphrase The Giver)
Going out to my car at 11pm, as one does, for my emergency roll of tp, I can hear so much TV in the hall.
It's kind of fascinating the different tastes people have in weeknight tv
Just heard someone say “30 years ago, in 1993,” and stopped what I was doing. I froze. What do you mean 1993 was 30 years ago. That’s illegal
oh gee discord should I try adding numbers? should I try that???? should I try adding numbers to the end of my username so that it's individualized and only mine???? should I try adding numbers??????????
Question for theists
Why are there degenerative diseases?
You’re asking the wrong group. That’s a question for research scientists.
I tried googling it because you made me curious, and the explanation went over my head (makes sense that it would though, I’m no biologist). Apparently, it may have something something to do with protein misfolding or toxic proteins occurring? But for what that means, your guess is as good as mine.
1. It’s interesting how your response changes depending on whether it’s me or @questions-for-christians asking the same thing verbatim.
When they asked it, your only response was to say that someone else’s response* was the reason your dad hates God.
Nothing whatsoever about the question being unrelated to religion.
2. It’s an entirely valid question to ask any theists who believe in any omnipotent and omnibenevolent deities.
If there were an omnibenevolent and omnipotent deity why would they choose to create degenerative diseases? That’s not the action of a benevolent deity.
You have now posed three different questions as though they are the same one.
How can you believe in Gd when there is cancer/disease/disaster gets the answer about my father
Why needs scientific answer
And then your new question, which skips a few steps. First, is Gd omnibenevelent? What does omnibenevelent mean?
But, more directly, I don’t believe Gd chose to create degenerative diseases. I believe they are a result of our mortality gone wrong.
Essentially, you put an awful lot of assumptions into your question that weren’t explicitly stated while looking for a very specific answer
I think you missed my reblog @atheostic, so I wanted to bring it back to continue the conversation.
Also, its been days and I’m still stuck on the idea that a god could be omnibenevelent. How would that even work? Are there any religions with that theology? I’d be interested to read more about it if there was.
Hi @rose-in-a-fisted-glove, I did see it and I promise I’m not ignoring you, I just haven’t got around to it yet.
I’m a school librarian and where I live we’re about 2 weeks away from the end of the school year, which means I’m utterly swamped at work with both mentally and physically exhausting tasks, so I haven’t had as much energy to respond to stuff. So I’m a bit slower at the moment to respond but I swear I haven’t forgotten about you!
Plus, sometimes it’s also nice to take some time to think about and consider what the other person’s said before responding, which I find ttends to be the case with our interactions (which is a good thing – it means your comments are engaging and make me have to actually think about the topic at hand).
Fair dice! I hope the end of the school year goes as smoothly as possible. Take your time.
I just got frustrated because you heavily implied I had some sort of bad faith intentions and then stopped responding right after I was trying to explain that.
Anonymous asked:
Hey so I have a genuine question I’ve been wondering about for ages! I know you’re just one single person so your opinion might not be everything but… I was genuinely wondering how Jewish people feel about fictional characters from like games and stuff being called Lilith. I’ve seen this happen in various media. Like not even characters meant to be any kind of religious figure but just… characters.
Heyyy, so, first let me give the disclaimer that Jewish people are not monoliths and that different people may have differing opinions.
But like, Lilith as a name can be perfectly fine. Look at Owl House, there's nothing antisemitic going on there. The bigger question is whether there are any antisemitic tropes or disrespect of culture/traditions moreso than what a character is named.
No pressure to actually answer this, but what is yourpersonal opinion on a demonic villain named Lilith as a character (thinking specifically of The Mortal Instruments that sort of throws in religious references without sticking exactly to the original representations)
Cribbing characters (or being inspired by characters) from other works of media is a long-time literary tradition. Personally, I don't have a problem with people taking literary inspiration from the Alphabet of Ben Sira. The bigger concern to me is whether there are antisemitic tropes in the work.
Question for theists
Why are there degenerative diseases?
You’re asking the wrong group. That’s a question for research scientists.
I tried googling it because you made me curious, and the explanation went over my head (makes sense that it would though, I’m no biologist). Apparently, it may have something something to do with protein misfolding or toxic proteins occurring? But for what that means, your guess is as good as mine.
1. It’s interesting how your response changes depending on whether it’s me or @questions-for-christians asking the same thing verbatim.
When they asked it, your only response was to say that someone else’s response* was the reason your dad hates God.
Nothing whatsoever about the question being unrelated to religion.
2. It’s an entirely valid question to ask any theists who believe in any omnipotent and omnibenevolent deities.
If there were an omnibenevolent and omnipotent deity why would they choose to create degenerative diseases? That’s not the action of a benevolent deity.
You have now posed three different questions as though they are the same one.
How can you believe in Gd when there is cancer/disease/disaster gets the answer about my father
Why needs scientific answer
And then your new question, which skips a few steps. First, is Gd omnibenevelent? What does omnibenevelent mean?
But, more directly, I don’t believe Gd chose to create degenerative diseases. I believe they are a result of our mortality gone wrong.
Essentially, you put an awful lot of assumptions into your question that weren’t explicitly stated while looking for a very specific answer
I think you missed my reblog @atheostic, so I wanted to bring it back to continue the conversation.
Also, its been days and I’m still stuck on the idea that a god could be omnibenevelent. How would that even work? Are there any religions with that theology? I’d be interested to read more about it if there was.
The OP says it’s “for theists” but it’s very clearly for Christians. It’s based on a slew of presumptions that are not true in various religions. The whole paradox of evil, where G-d is both omnipotent and omnibenevolent is a paradox in Christianity because they wholeheartedly believe both. Judaism does not assume omnibenebolence, various religions do not assume omnipotence and/or omnibenovolencce. Any time someone tries calling out all religions based on their cultural Christianity, I fall back on the old quote
“If there is a God, He will have to beg my forgiveness.”
I’m sorry, back up. Christianity supposedly believes in an omnibenevelent god? The “send people to be tortured for all eternity” religion?
Man, that is some bullshit. It would have been so interesting to learn about an omnibenevelent god or gods. And how that would work considering that we live interconnected lives
Punishing people for all eternity is good according to them
Good and benevelent are not synonymous
True but this is one of those distinctions that being lost in English. Like I’ve heard the paradox both as omnipotent vs omnibenevolent and all powerful vs all good.
The one that was brought up here was omnibenevelent. That's what interests me. Good is much easier to twist and change the meaning of. Good is whatever the authority figure(s) say is good after all. Boring in comparison.
Question for theists
Why are there degenerative diseases?
You’re asking the wrong group. That’s a question for research scientists.
I tried googling it because you made me curious, and the explanation went over my head (makes sense that it would though, I’m no biologist). Apparently, it may have something something to do with protein misfolding or toxic proteins occurring? But for what that means, your guess is as good as mine.
1. It’s interesting how your response changes depending on whether it’s me or @questions-for-christians asking the same thing verbatim.
When they asked it, your only response was to say that someone else’s response* was the reason your dad hates God.
Nothing whatsoever about the question being unrelated to religion.
2. It’s an entirely valid question to ask any theists who believe in any omnipotent and omnibenevolent deities.
If there were an omnibenevolent and omnipotent deity why would they choose to create degenerative diseases? That’s not the action of a benevolent deity.
You have now posed three different questions as though they are the same one.
How can you believe in Gd when there is cancer/disease/disaster gets the answer about my father
Why needs scientific answer
And then your new question, which skips a few steps. First, is Gd omnibenevelent? What does omnibenevelent mean?
But, more directly, I don’t believe Gd chose to create degenerative diseases. I believe they are a result of our mortality gone wrong.
Essentially, you put an awful lot of assumptions into your question that weren’t explicitly stated while looking for a very specific answer
I think you missed my reblog @atheostic, so I wanted to bring it back to continue the conversation.
Also, its been days and I’m still stuck on the idea that a god could be omnibenevelent. How would that even work? Are there any religions with that theology? I’d be interested to read more about it if there was.
The OP says it’s “for theists” but it’s very clearly for Christians. It’s based on a slew of presumptions that are not true in various religions. The whole paradox of evil, where G-d is both omnipotent and omnibenevolent is a paradox in Christianity because they wholeheartedly believe both. Judaism does not assume omnibenebolence, various religions do not assume omnipotence and/or omnibenovolencce. Any time someone tries calling out all religions based on their cultural Christianity, I fall back on the old quote
“If there is a God, He will have to beg my forgiveness.”
I’m sorry, back up. Christianity supposedly believes in an omnibenevelent god? The “send people to be tortured for all eternity” religion?
Man, that is some bullshit. It would have been so interesting to learn about an omnibenevelent god or gods. And how that would work considering that we live interconnected lives
Punishing people for all eternity is good according to them
Good and benevelent are not synonymous
Anonymous asked:
Yeah Christianity is fucking wild. We're literally taught that God is omnibenevolent and omniscient AND that everyone who doesn't repent/convert is Going To Hell. We're also not supposed to question Him because He's all loving and all knowing and wren bad things happen trust that it's part of His Plan. I was raised with a pretty progressive church and this was all still true.
So, uh, that's why I only consider myself christian culturally. Because I can't agree with the idea that all those things are true.
I don't think they know what that word means. How is sending someone to hell benevolent? (Rhetorical question)
Question for theists
Why are there degenerative diseases?
You’re asking the wrong group. That’s a question for research scientists.
I tried googling it because you made me curious, and the explanation went over my head (makes sense that it would though, I’m no biologist). Apparently, it may have something something to do with protein misfolding or toxic proteins occurring? But for what that means, your guess is as good as mine.
1. It’s interesting how your response changes depending on whether it’s me or @questions-for-christians asking the same thing verbatim.
When they asked it, your only response was to say that someone else’s response* was the reason your dad hates God.
Nothing whatsoever about the question being unrelated to religion.
2. It’s an entirely valid question to ask any theists who believe in any omnipotent and omnibenevolent deities.
If there were an omnibenevolent and omnipotent deity why would they choose to create degenerative diseases? That’s not the action of a benevolent deity.
You have now posed three different questions as though they are the same one.
How can you believe in Gd when there is cancer/disease/disaster gets the answer about my father
Why needs scientific answer
And then your new question, which skips a few steps. First, is Gd omnibenevelent? What does omnibenevelent mean?
But, more directly, I don’t believe Gd chose to create degenerative diseases. I believe they are a result of our mortality gone wrong.
Essentially, you put an awful lot of assumptions into your question that weren’t explicitly stated while looking for a very specific answer
I think you missed my reblog @atheostic, so I wanted to bring it back to continue the conversation.
Also, its been days and I’m still stuck on the idea that a god could be omnibenevelent. How would that even work? Are there any religions with that theology? I’d be interested to read more about it if there was.
The OP says it’s “for theists” but it’s very clearly for Christians. It’s based on a slew of presumptions that are not true in various religions. The whole paradox of evil, where G-d is both omnipotent and omnibenevolent is a paradox in Christianity because they wholeheartedly believe both. Judaism does not assume omnibenebolence, various religions do not assume omnipotence and/or omnibenovolencce. Any time someone tries calling out all religions based on their cultural Christianity, I fall back on the old quote
“If there is a God, He will have to beg my forgiveness.”
I'm sorry, back up. Christianity supposedly believes in an omnibenevelent god? The "send people to be tortured for all eternity" religion?
Man, that is some bullshit. It would have been so interesting to learn about an omnibenevelent god or gods. And how that would work considering that we live interconnected lives
Anonymous asked:
Are you saying that Lilith is just a tulpa??????
Now. That's kind of a complicated question, because it depends on what you mean by Lilith. It kind of boils down to, I sure hope so! Because otherwise people are opening themselves up to actual Lilith which would be Bad.
Lilith has been part of Jewish folklore (but not religion) for over a millennium. She is a personification and explanation for why babies are stillborn or miscarried or die as infants and why mothers die in labor. To be clear, this version of Lilith is not a wife of Adam or part of the Jewish religion.
Then, along came the Alphabet of Ben Sira. The Alphabet of Ben Sira was a story compilation of primarily satirical works. And if you read the portion about Lilith, it becomes very clear that this is a bitter misogynist man who doesn't like his wife.
Then, we fast forward to the 1970s and women's liberation movements within Judaism. Women are reframing and rewriting narratives to be less misogynistic and to create works about the women previously glossed over in midrash and in the texts.
Then, we get gentiles (mostly) women not understanding that Judaism is a tradition of stories and not all of our stories are meant to be literal or sacred. And then add entitlement and arrogance to that, and we wind up with the Tulpa of Lilith.
Or worse, they are gaining the attention of actual Lilith and they will regret that.
Question for theists
Why are there degenerative diseases?
You’re asking the wrong group. That’s a question for research scientists.
I tried googling it because you made me curious, and the explanation went over my head (makes sense that it would though, I’m no biologist). Apparently, it may have something something to do with protein misfolding or toxic proteins occurring? But for what that means, your guess is as good as mine.
1. It’s interesting how your response changes depending on whether it’s me or @questions-for-christians asking the same thing verbatim.
When they asked it, your only response was to say that someone else’s response* was the reason your dad hates God.
Nothing whatsoever about the question being unrelated to religion.
2. It’s an entirely valid question to ask any theists who believe in any omnipotent and omnibenevolent deities.
If there were an omnibenevolent and omnipotent deity why would they choose to create degenerative diseases? That’s not the action of a benevolent deity.
You have now posed three different questions as though they are the same one.
How can you believe in Gd when there is cancer/disease/disaster gets the answer about my father
Why needs scientific answer
And then your new question, which skips a few steps. First, is Gd omnibenevelent? What does omnibenevelent mean?
But, more directly, I don’t believe Gd chose to create degenerative diseases. I believe they are a result of our mortality gone wrong.
Essentially, you put an awful lot of assumptions into your question that weren’t explicitly stated while looking for a very specific answer
I think you missed my reblog @atheostic, so I wanted to bring it back to continue the conversation.
Also, its been days and I'm still stuck on the idea that a god could be omnibenevelent. How would that even work? Are there any religions with that theology? I'd be interested to read more about it if there was.
the embarrassment of noticing a typo on your post 145 notes in
Way too late to fix before it breaks containment
I think the one amusing part of the “gentiles worshiping Lililth” thing is that in essence, they are venerating a character from a satire written by a bitter misogynistic man as a deity. Like, if we were to put aside the antisemitism and blatant disrespect for our culture and folklore, that’s Very Ironic.
A tiger bursting to freedom after being rescued from a poacher’s snare in the Russian Far East.
