How ARE cats who become clerics after having kits treated? There's probably a lot of variables that are taken into account right? Like if the kits are apprentices/adults already, if the role was forced onto them (by starclan, the current cleric, early retirement), if they're the Mi/Ba, if they knew about the pregnancy before taking the role, etc
It is absolutely unheard of post-Larkstripe. The taboo is so strong that Mudfur was the first and only. You'd need to go back to before the Ripple Era to find examples for factors to matter at all.
No other warrior-turned-Cleric has been allowed to have kits, and has been forced to get rid of them if they're being pressured into the role. Yellowfang/Shroompelt was an example of that. If they had kittens before consideration, that would be disqualifying.
Mudfur didn't help this. From the perspective of the Clans at the time...
- His decision was clouded by grief. Brightsky leaving to become a kittypet is not known, it's thought that grief for her death caused his judgement to lapse.
- He raised a tyrant, Leopardstar, who is not remembered too kindly after Mistystar takes power. (Carpwhisker downplayed or conveniently ignored. She will not defend her honor lmao)
- His apprentice, Mothwing, was half-kittypet and half-Tigerstar. A sign from StarClan? Or a lapse in judgement?
- Worse... she has no connection to StarClan. Mudfur was bad enough on his own, with only an average connection. It slowly becomes more and more known that Mothwing has none at all.
- Finally, he was killed in the collapse of the Mothermouth, as if StarClan swallowed him up along with Barkface and his apprentice, Blackfur.
He ended up just reaffirming existing biases and causing a massive backslide in opinion towards this. There aren't examples to talk about; this is a massive violation of the code. Leafpool's reinstatement after the reveal was based heavily on the very fact she did not raise her kits.







