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They/It/He. Aspec - Aro Apl Agender Guy. Immersive Daydreamer. Sometimes Argue with Myselves. SEA. | Skyrim sideblog: @floating-in-urns

Wait wtaf there's a officialusa.com where you can get a directory listing of people living in the US? And I actually found someone's name there??! And their possible connections to other people through phone number and addresses?

What is happening? Does anyone from the USA know about this?

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RE: talking to conservative parents, I’ve found a good method to de-worming their brains is to not get riled up, just act a little bored and remind them “the news cycle only shows salacious stuff. They want you to be mad and scared because it makes you easier to control. Think about it for a second. Do you REALLY believe everything they have to say?” Or “you can’t believe everything you read or see on the internet. Remember, they earn money every time you click on their video.”

And especially when my dad starts getting huffy about Prices or Artists He Doesn’t Like, I tell him “that’s the beauty of capitalism. they have a product to sell and the freedom of expression if you don’t like it you don’t have to buy it.”

Might not work for everyone but dad’s KRYPTONITE especially is saying “but dad that’s capitalism! You LOVE capitalism!” And he either has to stop complaining or admit capitalism is bad and so far I haven’t lost

i know the term has sketchy origins but "oppression olympics" is such a real thing.

you see it in basically every group. ppl love creating hierarchies of who is Most Oppressed that leave 0 room for nuance, usually to justify their own personal claim to the status that theoretically affords them the least amount of privilege.

this asinine discourse ultimately does nothing to help dismantle actual oppressive systems. it's all just for, like, in group clout points.

everyone should read There Is No Hierarchy of Oppressions by Audrey Lorde and also La Guera by Cherrie Moraga & specifically this paragraph:

In this country, lesbianism is a poverty-as is being brown, as is being a woman, as is being just plain poor. The danger lies in ranking the oppressions. The danger lies in failing to acknowledge the specificity of the oppression. The danger lies in attempting to deal with oppression purely from a theoretical base. Without an emotional, heartfelt grappling with the source of our own oppression, without naming the enemy within ourselves and outside of us, no authentic, non-hierarchical connection among oppressed groups can take place.

reading witchcraft and paganism books as a nonbinary person means getting books that are highly recommended by the community, well recieved and with good reviews, sitting down to read it and being hit with "you, the reader, woman, divine feminine, you are feminine, use your femininity, our power as women, collective womanhood, feminine energy" EVERY OTHER SENTENCE.

idc if your book is aimed at women but id appreciate it if at least ONE review mentioned it Before I went out and spent $25 on a book that'll just give me dysphoria

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"misandry doesn't exist in any form" is a viewpoint that gets harder to defend when you stop seeing cis straight perisex white ect. men as the Default Man and anything other than that as a deviation from the norm. like obviously there's nuance to this but it feels like people have this very Top Of The Western Privilege Pyramid idea of 'Man' when they use the word but that only encapsulates a small small portion of the group they're actually talking about

That doesn’t mean men as a social class are denigrated for being men. It’s always another reason like race, sexuality, disability, transness, etc.

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it creates a unique intersection where their masculinity is part of the hatred against them. a disabled man can be seen as scary because he's talking to himself, and his masculinity can amplify this percieved danger

Yeah and if that same man decided to present feminine people would also think they’re a freak. What’s your point? That masculinity is not rewarded in this society? That would be ridiculous. Even when certain masculinities are punished, that punishment would be more intense if they didn’t present as masculine. Masculinity offers you safety, even if its a masculinity that’s maligned. That’s because masculinity is the presumed default for men of all kinds so clearly “misandry” or whatever antifeminist nonsense you’re spewing doesn’t exist. They ALWAYS will prefer you to be a masculine man over anything else.

There's been slippage here between masculinity and maleness. "misandry" is not hatred of masculinity but hatred of men. Whether the man is masculine or feminine isn't really relevant, the question is whether he'd be treated better if he was a woman. I don't think it changes the answer though.

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I forgot the word antimasculism existed, which I probably should've mentioned the word in the original post tbh. anyway, society would not treat me, a trans man, better if I were a woman

I mean yeah obviously it would not. Transmisogyny was coined specifically to describe the intersections of oppressions you'd face.

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trans men using transmisogyny is also a whole can of worms. a lot of people tell us we can't use it because it's not for us (though I believe it did originally include us). so we make our own words, that get shot down every time because "you're not oppressed for being a man, you're oppressed for being trans". whether or not someone thinks we're even allowed to use the word misogyny is a coin flip

basically being a man or masculine can effect the way people treat you in negative ways if you're already marginalized. it doesn't have to be worse than how a woman would be treated in the same situation for it to still be a problem worth mentioning and solving, though I do think "who has it worse in this situation" can be redundant in some of these conversations

If it's not worse then how a woman would be treated then it's not actually being discriminated against for being a man? Obviously we still want to address these other oppressions but this doesn't really relate to whether people are discriminated against for being men. The fact that discrimination because of a second factor against men may take a different form to discrimination against women does not mean that there is discrimination because of the category of man, the discrimination is because of the other factor.

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I think I see the confusion here, it's more of an "and" than an "also". it's about the way the oppression is gendered to make its own uniquely negative experience that's more than the sum of it's parts. I'm not always good at explaining things 😭

Also like, there’s an unfortunately long history of men of color being killed for being men of color, and that making them be percieved as dangerous. The primary targets of police violence are men of color. The prison system mainly imprisons men of color, and imprisons them for longer.

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YEAH........ saying "but if he was white that wouldn't happen to him" doesn't change the unique oppression that happens here!! like. sure it wouldn't happen if he was white, but he's not white, so what now?

Manhood is only a privilege to those already privileged, otherwise it’s used as a knife to hurt us like being a woman is.

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EXACTLY

saw this on a different post (commented by @genderkoolaid) but let's actually talk about this

i'm alloaro, and while i do experience some romantic attraction (you could call me arospec i guess but i just prefer saying aro and calling it a day) i don't think a lot of people understand how alienating it is to be alloaro, and how that impacts so many alloaro people, especially men and masc aligned people, as well as people of color, or really any group that we already over/hyper sexualize.

you get called "heartless" by your own community simply because you experience sexual attraction more than romantic attraction or because you ONLY experience sexual attraction.

i've seen this take in aro and ace spaces that sex is dirty, allosexuals are dirty, all we want is to fuck people and use them for sex. and while there is a time and a place to talk about the danger of the social pressure to have sex and be sexually active........it should not EVER come at the expense of harming others in the queer community

straight, gay, lesbian, bisexual, pan, queer, etc, all sexualities get thrown into this awful fucking place when we view alloaros as "only wanting to be players/have sex/emotionless fuck machines"

it's a disgusting mentality that really needs to be stopped because it ends up just repeating the same queerphobic narratives. and no, it doesn't matter if you say it to cishet aro men, because it's still harming aromantic people.

and trust me, it's an easy trap to fall into. you start trying to convince yourself that because they're still able to have sex that they aren't "really queer." but that's just not how queerness works.

oh adore this post 💚💛

I literally talked with a counselor about how alieating it is to be alloaro but wanted intimacy, and have to worry about

  1. Alloros not knowing what "aro" is & having to explain it, hoping that they understand what you are talking about & will still be into you if there's no romance
  2. Hoping that alloros won't develop romantic attraction or try and pressure you into a romance
  3. Worrying about being seen as a heartless slut preying on the poor loving alloro by wanting a sexual-but-not-romantic relationship, or even having a partner get mad at you for "leading them on" by... being openly aromantic and telling them clearly you never want a romantic relationship, because they expected that eventually you would.
  4. The eternal social implication that sexual friendships can ONLY be a short-term "fling", never a long-term arrangement with emotional intimacy, even if you WANT a long-term sexual friendship with emotional intimacy

And then when, on top of this, you have to deal with stereotypes about sex-obsessed queers who only ever want sex– which alloro queers try so hard to deflect from themselves, they end up hating you for "fulfilling the stereotypes" by existing as an alloaro queer (& I imagine theres a similar experience for alloaros of color). See also: the emphasis on romantic love as the reason WHY queers deserve equal rights ("Love wins!" "Love is never bad!")

Not aro as in "I'm still normal because I love my friends" but aro as in "I'm going to burn down the relationship hierarchy and the idea that 'love' or experiening any form of attraction is what makes us human". Aro as in "fuck you, I'm queer"

Friendly reminder that relationship anarchy also involves valuing the friendships and other dynamics you have with young people (dynamics include friendship, caretaking, collaborative partners, domestic/housemates, and familial). Relationship anarchy is anti nuclear family. Relationship anarchy is pro youth liberation. Relationship anarchy is pro community

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wayne brady is pansexual!!! 💗💛💙🥳

i’m pansexual. in doing my research, both with myself and just with the world, i couldn’t say if i was bisexual, because i had to really see what that was, especially because i really have not gotten a chance to act on anything. so, i came to pansexual because — and i know that i’m completely messing up the dictionary meaning — but to me, pan means being able to be attracted to anyone who identifies as gay, straight, bi, transsexual or non-binary. being able to be attracted across the board. and, i think, at least for me for right now, that is the proper place. i took pan to mean that not only can i be attracted to any of these people or types physically, but i could be attracted to the person that is there. i’ve dealt with the shame. a shame cake, just eating it every single day — and then worried about… people finding out. i’ve always had a wonderful community of friends who are in the lgbtq+ community, people that i’ve grown up with in shows, gays and lesbians, and, later in life, my trans relatives and my niece. i’ve always had that community, but i've always felt like a sham because i wasn’t being forthcoming with myself. i could speak out about black issues because i can’t hide that. and you can play at being an ally, but until the day that you can truly say, “this is who i am, and i wanna stand next to you,” that's not… i always wanted that day to come. i’ve told myself in the past, also, nobody needs to know my personal business. the world can absolutely go without knowing that wayne identifies as pan. but that gave me license to still live in the shadows and to be secretive. what does that feel like to actually not be shameful, to not feel like, “oh, i can’t be part of this conversation because i’m lying?” i had to break that behavior. i’m now trying to be the most wayne brady i can be. i don’t know about most, actually. i’m still coming together. but if i’m healthy, then i can go onstage at let’s make a deal and be the best wayne brady that everybody wants and expects. i can be the best dad that maile needs. i can be the best friend to mandie, the best son to my mother, and one day, the best partner to someone, because i’m doing this for me. not dating yet though! [laughs] i am single, but it’s not about being with someone right now. i’ve got some work to do still. then, wayne as a single, open-minded pansexual can make a decision and be free and open to other people.

i included more quotes from the article than just strictly pan related because it’s quite touching. good for him!!!! 🌈👏🥰

fun fact: “tired” is not supposed to be your default state of existence

immediately concerned by how many people were like “wait really??” in the tags. may i suggest you guys read up on chronic fatigue iron and magnesium deficiencies (among others) and executive dysfunction as starter material

Diversity win! The mercenary assassinating you for union organization is bisexual!

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Honestly, genuinely, this is how the Pinkertons became the terror they are today. They literally do not care if you're white or black, gay or straight, polyamorous, monogamous, or any other combination of any traits imaginable, and some unimaginable. That's how they've been since they were founded. They ONLY thing they care about is you being a cold-hearted bastard willing to murder union organizers. In the goddamn 1850s, the Pinkertons were hiring women and black people because they were perfect as spies and would inevitably be loyal due to having so few opportunities otherwise. They're one hundred percent happy to hire you, bisexual nonbinary latino immigrant, as long as you're willing to threaten the life of a youtuber for daring to open a pack of playing cards that was legally purchased by and delivered to them and they, legally, own. They're perfectly delighted to hire you, asexual pre-everything black trans woman, as long as you're up to spy on Amazon workers to crush their unionization efforts. If you need a job, gay paraplegic genderfluid romani, they'll be happy to give you one, as long as they can think of a way to bust the Starbucks unionization efforts with you. That's how they've operated essentially since their founding.