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Elena was right!
That really came out of nowhere. Like. Romantic Sunset Trope with Seven and Rios. Suddenly gay hand-holding with Raffi. WTF WRITERS?
I’m entirely incapable of suspending belief here. I can’t care less whether characters are straight, bi, gay, pan or whatever, and I don’t want to have to rely on fanfics again to find how Seven and Raffi fall in love. All that happens off-screen doesn’t count. It’s only the on-screen development that counts.
We could have had the nice romantic sunset between Seven and Raffi: it would have been the perfect opportunity to see them being attracted to one another. We could have had a nice “I just lost someone who mattered a lot to me” scene between Rios and Elnor, getting to see men talking to men about their feelings (wow) and empathizing to one another (super wow). But no. Instead we got alcohol promotion and mom-cares-for-man.
I don’t think I’ll continue watching the new Star Trek shows. The writing is entirely subpar, the characterization is inconsistent, the actor direction is terrible, and Romulan conlang just can’t save everything (hearing spoken Romulan was my main drive so far). I’m not even entertained by the shows – I’ve felt more moved by the Pokémon movies I recently watched.
I very much recommend “The Spell of Zoroark”, and if you like sci-fantasy, I also recommend the BBC series “His Dark Materials” based on the eponymous trilogy. That’s what I’ll be watching.
I really don't want Tarantino anywhere near Star Trek. I don't want to see what he'd do to the characters (Bones in particular. He doesnt seem like hexd properly portray his empathy and healerxs heart).
Tarantino is… literal scum. I’ve been pretty outspoken about this. Tarantino is known for pushing “characters must suffer to succeed” tropes, and for tormenting his female characters in particular. He’s a child rape apologist and abusive towards his actors. He has been very clear about the fact that he knew Harvey Weinstein had been raping women (including Tarantino’s former girlfriend) for years and still worked with him on every project since “Kill Bill”.
To quote my previous posts on this:
“This isn’t what we want for Star Trek. People were skeptical enough when it was simply a matter of his directorial style and decisions. That level of darkness and gore has no place in the Star Trek franchise, it simply doesn’t fit…
He’s scum and he has no place in the Star Trek franchise.”
The fandom needs to keep being outspoken about this. Get the attention of Paramount and the actors. Make it known in fandom spaces that this isn’t ok, and we don’t want him.
I don’t know if it will be successful, but we can try.
Anonymous asked:
I would love to know more about when you first started thinking that there was more than friendship between Kirk and Spock and when fans first started talking about it. Was it Amok Time that first gave you the idea?
I started thinking about it before Amok Time aired.
In the summer of ‘67, watching the reruns of the first season, I very clearly remember a growing sense of, “They really love each other.” I did not jump to “they are in a romantic/sexual relationship,” but I was increasingly aware that there was love and devotion between them. I wrote a speculative essay about their platonic love in our summer fan club newsletter, which I remember being well-received.
With the start of Season 2, our whole fan club (and often others) watched the show together, at the house of the one person we knew with a color TV. The show was on Friday nights, so we would start the weekends by piling into her living room and watching “in living color” for the first time. Afterwords we would stay and discuss.
When Amok Time aired, we definitely had a lot to talk about. I am pretty sure no one suggested that they were gay – that would have been quite a scandalous suggestion at that time; and I don’t think I thought it myself. But we did have quite a discussion about how much Jim was willing to sacrifice for Spock, Spock’s reaction to seeing Jim alive, and what did Spock mean by “having not so pleasing a thing after all as wanting…?”
Did Spock … want Jim?
Two camps formed: one believing that Spock was in love with Jim and was pining for him, the other believing no way! that’s ridiculous!
Single copies of “Spock pines for Jim” stories started appearing and being circulated hand-to-hand. Two other women and I were doing most of the writing in my circle of fan friends, and because distribution was so difficult, we started having Thursday night gatherings. Anyone could come and we would read the latest installments in our Spock-loves-Jim stories out loud to the group.
Sometime between the second and third season, my primary writing mentor – an established, published sci-fi writer who was much older than me – told me in private conversation that she thought their love was mutual, quite possibly physical, and that she thought their relationship was worth exploring in writing.
She and I each started working on long pieces exploring the Kirk/Spock relationship, and it was the first time I had seriously entertained the idea that their love was also physical. That was a very secret project. We only ever shared our work with each other for comment / revision, and never mentioned it to anyone else at the time.
The first time I realized that the K/S relationship – which was called “The Premise” in those days – was being explored by other writers and even artists was in the summer of ‘69. Star Trek had been cancelled and I went to another state to meet with a handful of people who were forming a fan network to try to get Star Trek back on air. While there, a fellow fan showed me a set of drawings, all very tame by today’s standards, that depicted a physical relationship between Jim and Spock. I remember how shocked I was — not by the subject matter, but by the fact that someone had dared depict it.
Slash stayed very much underground until late 1974, when the first published K/S story used very coded language to suggest a love relationship between them.
Additional history note, for people who aren’t aware of it: In 1973, homosexuality was removed from the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorder) as a mental illness. Before that time, it was officially listed as, and treated as, a psychiatric disorder, like schizophrenia: a condition that requires treatment, with the goal of removing it, or minimizing its effects if that wasn’t possible.
How happy someone was with it wasn’t important - it was considered a disease. Anyone who was happy being gay was considered to ill to realize how damaged they were.
Claiming that Kirk and Spock might have those feelings for each other was a hard clash against mainstream psychology. It was a very controversial opinion, because it meant not only looking at the series and saying, “I’m seeing a relationship that I’m pretty sure the writers didn’t consciously intend,” but also, “oh, and the entire AMA and the combined wisdom of its doctors are clueless about how human relationships work.”
Believing that two people of the same sex could have a healthy, loving relationship was an act of defiance all on its own.
I see that this post is trending today, so I’m going to take this moment to reblog it myself with the important addition of the comments from @elfwreck (Thank you for these, @elfwreck !)
I’d like to add a bit more historical context myself. Until the 1970s, years after TOS had finished its run, sodomy was a felony in 49 out of 50 states of the US – a felony which was punishable by prison or death. Throughout the 60s and into the 70s, I can remember reading carefully-worded news stories about gay men being arrested and given decades-long prison sentences.
For being gay.
Think about this for a moment. When TOS was on the air, not only was a white man kissing a Black woman a crime in a third of the country – but one man in a consensual, loving sexual relationship with other was committing a crime so serious he could be imprisoned or killed in every state but one.
I’ve seen tags from people and received questions about why Spock and Kirk were not allowed to be out on TV, since they were so clearly in love. This was not remotely possible at that time. The average American understood a man who loved another man to be mentally ill and his behavior to be criminal.
@elfwreck put it beautifully above: “Believing that two people of the same sex could have a healthy, loving relationship was an act of defiance all on its own.”
In the early years of writing slash, one had to be very, very careful about who knew you read or wrote such material. Women and men both went to jail for violating obscenity laws. Just letting people know you entertained the idea of “The Premise” of K/S love could (and did) have people openly questioning your mental health, your morality, your character, your ability to do your job, and the safety of children in your presence. I know a woman who lost all rights to visit her own children in a divorce, when the court found out she had K/S slash material in her home.
Essential backstory. I got into formal Trek fandom around 1974, exactly at the point where K/S (as it were) came out of the closet…
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there was just something so pure and wonderful about the beginning of garak and julian’s relationship. like the two always wanted to be together, they were genuinely excited to be around each other, like there was just such a PROMISING chance for them to be a happy couple that was like, forever stuck in the honey moon phase. like that’s the air they gave off. like they’d be in love no matter what.
like no hate at all to kira and odo but whatever that relationship was, they should’a put all that effort into making garashir canon.
#30DaysofDS9 Day 16 - Best Garak Moment
BASHIR: They broke seven of your transverse ribs and fractured your clavicle. GARAK: Ah, but I got off several cutting remarks which no doubt did serious damage to their egos.
#30DaysofDS9 - Day 11 - Best Bashir Moment
I think Bashir’s character really shone in The Wire especially at the end when he and Garak sit down and Garak still doesn’t answer a question LOL
how many people could be working on actual problems in the world instead of being forced to do jobs that they are over-qualified for just because they dont want to go homeless and starve?
climate change is threatening to kill us and people with biology degrees are working at starbucks if they didn’t get lucky in the nepotism department.
capitalism is possibly the least efficient way to allocate work.
You love art–have spent your entire childhood developing a style people love and appreciate? you could possibly work to improve the lives of millions with your beautiful creations?
sorry you need to work 12 hours a day at a walmart that doesn’t need you while some billionaire who took a painting class once sells some ugly bullshit for 3.5 million.
Millions of people want to be doctors but can’t afford medical school, it is a well known fact we don’t have enough doctors for the demand. hmm wow real efficient capitalism.
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“I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.” - Stephen Jay Gould
Capitalism and wealth are bankrupt concepts.
Got a panic attack the other day when someone suddenly started claiming that capitalism was the greatest thing, because it allows people to follow their dreams and unleash their individuality.
Idk. I was told to follow my dreams, and I sure didn’t dream to end up working as cleaner with minimal wage, being pushed to work faster and harder so the hotel can cash in more rooms, and nevermind that the breakneck pace means I end up so sore I can’t even draw or write anymore when I’m home. I have 0 hope of getting a raise or savings, and the only luxury I can afford is to refuse working full-time, so that I can still rest a bit and not go insane.
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I think my only question would be, why Amazon?
I hate Amazon so much. I bet that series will be wonderful, but I’m never ever giving Amazon the first tenth of a cent.
I can only go so long w/o posting art of my favorite lizard, Garak. This has been in drafts for months! Finally, using my new tools, I’m happy with it. Mostly. 🦎❤️
One of the reasons GoT ended up being a massive disappointment is bc every character seems to end up alone. That’s the end of their story and they’re all alone, they’re without the people they love most in the world. None of the Starks are together. Even after hearing for years about “the lone wolf dies, the pack survives”, they all separate. Bran and Sansa are both coronated without a single member of their family there. Brienne is alone without Jaime, as is Tyrion. It all just seems incredibly depressing. It’s an awful cold and uninspiring message to leave your audience with after 10 years. All your favourite characters either died (before or after their arcs were destroyed) or they ended up alive and alone. What a miserable legacy to leave.
But isn’t that what war does? It ruins everything.
I haven’t even watched the last seasons of GoT, but seeing the fandom’s reactions, I’m enjoying that ending. Seems to be quite in tune with everything else. You don’t get wars with happy endings. The happy rebirth is what you might get if you put a lot of work into making it happen, so get to your favorite word processors and write that happy rebirth you yearn for. And think about the climate while you’re at it, because Winter is Still Coming for us while the planet’s being destroyed by pollution and all.
Good stories don’t end; they continue in real life.
Yknow what I LOVE about the Star Trek fandom? It’s ANCIENT. I had a talk with a nice old lady at the old persons home that my great grandma is in and she noticed my Spock shirt and was like “oh I love that show I thought the premise was lovely” and you all know THE PREMISE is trekspeak for spirk and I was like “do you accept the premise because I do” and she looked at me with the eyes of someone who is reliving their otp moments and she said “the premise is all I wrote about, dear” and we just talked about spirk for a hella long time and I just love how age doesn’t matter in this fandom you can be ninety and still be the biggest spirk bitch ever how rad is that
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