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Chara didn't ever have a red soul

lemme explain, i have somewhat good evidence, no im not out of my mind

if chara had a determination soul, they would have been able to save load and reset, but we never once hear or see of them doing it

even if chara just never set a save point, they would still be able to go back to the moment they gained the ability to reset (like when frisk first fell and when flowey first woke up in the true lab) when either A. they died. or B. they reset

even when chara fused with asriel, they never gained the ability to reset or otherwise they would've went back to the reset point when they died again

so, this means that chara has less determination than flowey, even while fused with asriel, and flowey didn't even have a soul, he just had dt

i think chara had a justice soul instead, as it fits with their 'consequences, atonement, redemption' themes, not to mention them hating humans and wanting to set monsters free + the line "Do you think you are above consequences?" is the most justice sounding line i've ever heard

maybe they just had more determination than your average human, enough to be woken up by frisk, but not nearly enough to save and load