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A Pangaeaboo, if you will...

@mazie-g-messer

Hello it's your resident autistic bi-romantic-asexual paleontological weeb, Mazie-G. I'm a visual artist and writer that often incorporates anime and video game inspired elements into my works as well as paleontological motifs. Most anime and games I find myself interested in are kind of in that range where they no longer or never have inhabited the zeitgeist. Hope you have a pleasant scrolling experience. Also just general animal death, arachnophobia, and entomophobia trigger warnings. I cannot bring my sleep deprived mind to remember that people are not always okay looking at bugs, also It's hard not having a lot of stuff relating to animal death because I am a paleontology dweeb who has an admittedly distant and strange relationship with death.

Is there language in cladistics to describe organisms that technically belong to one group but have split to develop such a distinctive evolutionary path that it is no longer useful to describe them as belonging in the group? Like how all tetrapods are technically fish but calling them that isn't useful when trying to distinguish between groups of animals.

Like snakes are technically lizards, but unless you're specifically talking lineages, most people wouldn't include snakes in a conversation about, idk, native lizards in you're area. Even wikipedia says gila monsters are the "only venomous lizards in the US", which is true by all metrics except cladistics.

(BTW I'm NOT trying to make a "birds aren't dinosaurs argument. IMO I don't think birds have even evolved that distinctly from dinosaurs to even argue they should be called something else. I mean look at them, they look like freakin dinosaurs.)

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I mean, to be fair to snakes, here, there are a LOT of legless lizards that don't fall into snakes, so they don't actually seem that different either!

but yeah no, there is no term for that, because that's not how evolution works. Tetrapods have a huge evolutionary path, but it's still a part of the path that Sarcopterygians took, because that's where we came from.

Evolution is a constant series of changes, sometimes fast, sometimes slow, but there's no way for us to pick one or some changes and know that those are important enough to cause a distinct evolutionary journey. I don't think anyone alive in the Cretaceous could have guessed that the tiny flying dinosaurs would be the only ones around in 66 million years, but here we are!

We have to keep it as monophyletic groups because that's the closest we get to describing objective reality, objective evolutionary groups. Also, we are all impacted heavily by our ancestry.

This traces back to a cross-disciplinarian philosophy called Foundation Theory. Where you start, or come from, or found yourself on, affects everything that comes later. You cannot fix a building with a rotten foundation, for example, because that whole building depends on that foundation

the fact that tetrapods are lobe-finned fish traces back to that. So many aspects of tetrapod anatomy only make sense when you remember we're fish

the foundation of tetrapods is a fun friend crawling up to shore. We can't erase that, or ignore it, because then we're missing key aspects of the puzzle - the foundation of it, really.

And if you want to go deeper, the foundation of ALL life, we can see how much of our quirks trace just to being carbon based, or bound in membranes, or use DNA instead of RNA, or -

the list goes on

So, alas, nay. You never leave a group you're a part of. You can never remove yourself from your foundation.

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"I don't know what words to use anymore!"

That's okay! I will help!

  • Do you mean "the evolutionary group that consists of all things called dinosaurs"? ----- use the word Dinosaur!
  • Do you mean "what we classically considered dinosaurs"? ----- use the term Nonavian Dinosaur!
  • Do you mean "dinosaurs that are studied by paleontologists"? ----- use the term Fossil Dinosaur!
  • Do you mean "any organism studied by paleontologists"? ----- use the term Fossil Organism!
  • Do you mean "dinosaurs from before history"? ----- use the term Prehistoric Dinosaur!
  • Do you mean "any living thing from before history"? ----- use the term Prehistoric Life!
  • Do you mean "just the dinosaurs that survived the end-Cretaceous mass extinction"? ----- use the term Neornithine! or bird. or Cenozoic Dinosaur.
  • Do you mean "just the dinosaurs that are around today"? ----- use the term (Living) Bird! or living dinosaur
  • Do you mean "Dinosaurs and Pterosaurs/Pterodactyls"? ----- use the term Ornithodiran!
  • Do you mean "Just the dinosaurs from the Mesozoic Era"? ----- use the term Mesozoic Dinosaur!
  • Do you mean "large classical reptiles"? ----- use the term Large Nonavian Reptiles
  • Do you mean "big lizards"? ----- then you aren't talking about dinosaurs, even a little bit, and should just say Big Lizards
  • Do you mean "something that is an evolutionary dead-end"? ----- there's no such thing; most organisms go extinct bc of happenstance, not because they were doomed to fail. lol.
  • Do you mean "something old and outdated, behind the times"? ----- then say Something old, outdated, or behind the times
  • Do you mean "something that hasn't evolved or changed in millions of years"? ----- No such thing. Every population is constantly evolving, and if something looks unchanged, that just means the change happened somewhere you can't see it.
  • Do you mean "something that looks like it hasn't evolved or changed in millions of years"? ----- I still recommend you drop this idea from your brain, but if you MUST, use "living fossil" or "prehistoric vibes". living fossils aren't a thing btw.
  • Do you mean "Dimetrodon"? ----- then say Dimetrodon
  • Do you mean "any large reptile that is extinct"? ----- then say Extinct Reptilian Megafauna (and accept that includes some large birds)
  • Do you mean "any large [traditional] reptile that is extinct"? ----- then say Extinct Nonavian Reptilian Megafauna
  • Do you mean a big reptilian monster? ----- then say Monster

I'm sure there are some I'm forgetting but here you go! words and terms that mean things!

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Sincere question about things that haven't changed in millions of years: do you know of large changes detected by biologists in crocodilians? That always comes up as the default "unchanged organism".

mostly genetic, but there are TONS of fossil crocodilians and they occupy a lot of different niches and ecologies, even through the cenozoic era. Being limited to the one niche (semiaquatic ambush predator) is a fairly recent development

May I add

“Mammal like reptile”

— should be either synapsid, pelycosaur, or therapsid depending on the one you’re referencing. Or say mammal ancestor.

thank you!

yeah if you mean "Any tetrapod closer to mammals than to reptiles" then you mean Synapsid

If you mean "Dimetrodon + Mammals" you mean Pelycosaur, which is a subset of Synapsids

and if you mean "Extremely similar to mammals or just straight up a mammal" you mean Therapsid!

Anonymous asked:

Bro why did you censor the snake's cloaca on the snake anatomy post??? It's a snake?

I didn't censor anything, what -

oh. Oh, no. That's meant to be a line to show where the tail begins. Oh no, now I look like some weird prude.

Yeah, that's meant to help people grasp the anatomy and visualize how small the tail is in relation to the torso. Not meant to be some kind of weird snake privacy screen

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We CANNOT have snudity (snake nudity) on this webbed site

Gotta respect their snivacy (snake privacy)

thinking again about the summer job I took as a teenager where a medical company wanted me to paint organs for them to use on their website (for a cutesy patient portal, where you click the organs to see symptoms associated with them), but I misunderstood and looked up surgery and autopsy photos so that I could paint the most photorealistic graphic organs possible which. they didn’t end using

uh so i never do this but maui is quite literally on fire and there isn't nearly enough care or consideration for. you know. Native Hawaiians who live here being displaced and the land (and cultural relevance) that's being eaten up by the fire. so if ya'll wanna help, here's some links:

center for native hawaiian advancement: https://www.memberplanet.com/campaign/cnhamembers/kakoomaui

please reblog and spread the word if you can't donate.

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Man: Give him my love.

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THE END

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Good to know shitposting has been around since the inception of cinema

In the earliest 2000s I saw a documentary where a very esteemed ecologist (idk his name, don't remember, I was a kid ya know) said "Money isn't real. The environment is." and I have been excessively annoying about this exact subject (that money is FAKE but our planet is REAL) ever since

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When I was a kid in the 90's, adults were always telling me that such and such money thing was more important than those trees that got cut down or the animals that got killed or displaced. Well, I believed they were wrong then, but I listened because I was a kid, but now I've come back around to believing they are wrong again. Valuing other life as much as human life IS NOT CHILDISH.

Yeah even the most radically leftist adults in my life at the time said the same shit and I didn’t know how to explain that if the planet dies everyone dies even if they have a billion dollars >_>

I...tried to make a meme and got carried away and made A Thing that is like partially unfinished because i spent like 3 hours on it and then got tired.

I think this is mostly scientifically accurate but truth be told, there seems to be relatively little research on succession in regards to lawns specifically (as opposed to like, pastures). I am not exaggerating how bad they are for biodiversity though—recent research has referred to them as "ecological deserts."

Feel free to repost, no need for credit

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idk how to explain how sad it is that on a post where i say "on earth" in big bold text a very large amount of people immediately think in an exclusively human fashion. like maybe im reading too much into it but it just reminds me of how common it is that humans will only think of humans as the "main" life form on earth.

me thinking of eyes ratios: well, spiders for one

me thinking of legs ratios: hm. spiders

Compound eyes are more eye per eye, so I'm betting on eyes.

Snails and I think most other non-cephalopod molluscs don't really have limbs but many have eyes.

There is a lot of ambiguity about what kind of limb counts as a leg, so we can use this too.