MASTERLIST OF NSFW ARTISTS ON TWITTER

Now that Tumblr is done for when it comes to 18+ art, I figured I should do something like this to help make the transition smoother.

If you don’t know what’s going on, Tumblr officially announced that starting from Dec 17th, NSFW content is NO LONGER ALLOWED HERE. Period. EVEN IF YOU DON’T USE TWITTER, you’ll be able to find other social media links on their profiles! Reblog with your additions if they’re not here!

HUMAN / MIXED ART

BaphometBimbo - https://twitter.com/BaphometBimbo GooeyCandy - https://twitter.com/gooeycandy BootyElectric / Chocotaur - https://twitter.com/chocotaurnsfw KupoKlein - https://twitter.com/KupoKlein PPMaqEro - https://twitter.com/PedroPmaq KiashiGetsNasty - https://twitter.com/KiashiGetsNasty FriedDough - https://twitter.com/frieddoughart Bavarii - https://twitter.com/goat_ish Dizdoods - https://twitter.com/dizdoodz Mothyx - https://twitter.com/Mothyx2 TheNSFW Fandom - https://twitter.com/SoyNutts TheMaohKing - https://twitter.com/themaohking LuckyLui - https://twitter.com/Just_LuckyLui KappaX - https://twitter.com/KappaX_art Phausto - https://twitter.com/PhaustoK AverageNeighbor - https://twitter.com/Avg_Neighbor Jaspurrlock - https://twitter.com/jaspurrlock Servojob - https://twitter.com/Servojob Toumato-R18 - https://twitter.com/toumator18 Suyohara - https://twitter.com/SuyoBara FoxBravo - https://twitter.com/itsfoxbravo BurankoPrn - https://twitter.com/burankoprn Suiton - https://twitter.com/Suiton00_nsfwB Bludwing - https://twitter.com/Bludwingart KidDeathX - https://twitter.com/KiddeathxSmut Schizoid - https://twitter.com/schizoid_art xNiroX - https://twitter.com/nironsfw SybLaTortue - https://twitter.com/SybLaTortue BoxerHole - https://twitter.com/THROATPUSSY ReallyPorning - https://twitter.com/reallyporning WellThisIsJustTerrible - https://twitter.com/piikeisandaa NoCoe13 - https://twitter.com/nocoe13 ReddBlush - https://twitter.com/reddblush Mazjojo - https://twitter.com/mazjojomania BaraYuli - https://twitter.com/barabarayuli CharlieTooga - https://twitter.com/CharlieTooga DayDreamerJim - https://twitter.com/JimsDaydreams MachoJuice - https://twitter.com/Macho_Juice Ruisselait - https://twitter.com/ruisselait Dannie-20nine - https://twitter.com/Nsfw_20nine HeadingSouthArt - https://twitter.com/Headingsouthart Mugheyart - https://twitter.com/mugheyart Jasdavi - https://twitter.com/jasdavi Homri - https://twitter.com/homrih Manjosticks - https://twitter.com/manjosticks UramakiGigan - https://twitter.com/UramakiGigan Spicehead - https://twitter.com/spicehead1 Robokeh - https://twitter.com/Robodraws WolfConF - https://twitter.com/f_con Redgart - https://twitter.com/RED_gart Yuufreak - https://twitter.com/yuufreak

FURRY ONLY GlitterTrapBoy - https://twitter.com/glitterdeadboy SugaryHotDog - https://twitter.com/SugaryHotDog Meesh - https://twitter.com/Mushymeesh Kihu - https://twitter.com/KihuBlue VasukiStoat - https://twitter.com/VasukiStoat YamaSmut - https://twitter.com/yamasmut ChinPow - https://twitter.com/chinpowteam Braeburned - https://twitter.com/braeburned Rov - https://twitter.com/RovTheHorse SaltyPoundcake - https://twitter.com/Saltypoundcake

added a handful more!

Have a great weekend everyone ;)

So very true

Kids that young are essentially gender neutral, and are still being taught ‘gender norms’ by adults who should know better. 

I have the world’s most precious nephew.  When he was 3, he asked his mom and grandma if he could be a girl. Now, my family is smart.  Both his mom and his grandma asked “why?”  He said it was so he could have long hair. 

His mom showed him photos of famous musicians with long hair, along with Johnny Depp.  His grandma showed him photos of Brad Pitt, Troy Polamalu, and Jared Leto with long hair.  Then they told him “Boys can have long hair, see?”  He said “oh” and went on about his life being a boy.

When he was 4, this same nephew decided again that he wanted to be a girl. This time, the reason was so he could wear skirts and paint his nails.  Same reaction: his mom and grandma showed him photos of men in kilts, and men with painted nails, and said “boys can do that, too.”  He said “oh”, and decided he was okay being a boy. 

At the root of it, he didn’t really want to be a girl. He just wanted to do the same things he saw his mama doing. When he understood he didn’t have to be a girl to do those things, he shrugged it off and was cool with being a boy.

Now, if he ever adamantly decides that he is a girl, not that he wants to be a girl, myself, his mom, and his grandma will be okay with that. We just want to make sure he actually is transgender instead of deciding “oh he wants to do these things, so he is a girl.” We are extremely firm believers in making educated decisions. 

I feel that a transgender four year old is more like a cat who is vegan because the cat’s owner’s misunderstood the cat eating grass to mean it is vegan.

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This is how you do it- this is the best method you can even print up because A: it recognizes the kids lack of conceptual awareness(they dont know) so you have to be super specific and make them aware. B: it re-enforces that gender roles are the fault of these misconceptions- telling him boys can do that too was a great step forward because It tells him that the gender-roles are bullshit. that he can do what he wants. C:if he ends up being trans later-youve exhausted all reasonable doubt and it takes away that sometimes really uncomfortable moment of doubt that the more typical Sudden coming out thats mandatory otherwise brings. you can move on immiediatly to steps to transition and final this is most important; it doesnt force an innocent kid to experience Dysphoria. the very thing that youre trying to fix with Transitioning. someone who doesnt respect this method will find themselves making alot of mistakes in life and ignoring the consequences.

this is not good and being trans should not be doubted like this. my mother did this, tried to make me doubt myself because she didn’t want me to be trans. a tomboy, a lesbian, anything but trans. whatever narrative she could find to convince me i wasn’t who i said i was.

we haven’t spoken since i was 19.

you should never try to convince your kid they aren’t trans and take away and belittle their understanding like this.

most trans kids knew early on

a kid shouldn’t have to be pushed to extreme suffering for you to believe them

you don’t need to exhaust all reasonable doubt

let the kid be a girl. it is not your job as a parent or an ally to try to convince us we aren’t trans. no trans person has ever benefited from that and i still live with that trauma my mom pushed into my life.

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ok im not fucking done tbh

all this does is cause your kid to constantly doubt themselves because YOU THE PARENT have been doubting them this whole time and training them to look at their identity as though it couldn’t possibly be what it is. it does the exact opposite of what you’re saying, i promise you that.

and “transitioning” at that age is literally just switching pronouns and if that kid wants to change up their hair or clothes or whatever that’s sometimes associated too

puberty blockers have no permanent oe negative known side effects, they only delay puberty and have far more benefits than consequences. everyone goes thru puberty (or first puberty anyway) at different ages anyway and it has no social consequence either (not that the parents in this case wouldn’t be the cause of the social consequences…)

it is totally reversible and fine

I think you’re underestimating the effect of a decision as big as this. Kids can be cruel little shits. Having a 5-year old child make a decision as big as becoming trans while he’s still at an age where he doesn’t actually understand what trans is can be dangerous and too risky for many. Kids are curious as hell and some are really intelligent, but I doubt they are developed enough to experience truly complex emotions. A little boy being asked if he “really wants to be a girl” isn’t going to cause some kind of mental breakdown and instantly cause depression within him. It gives the child and parent time to learn and think on the decision. A gender change shouldn’t be treated as something as little as getting your ears pierced. Gender changes are something that can completely change how some view a person. This can be troublesome, especially in places as unpredictable as elementary school. As I said before, kids can be cruel as hell, and it’s been proven (and frankly, somewhat obvious) that trans folks are much more prone to things such as bullying. In a “traditional” setting (trans person is in early teens-young adulthood) this kind of issue can now be pretty easy to bypass thanks to trans support groups, online support, etc. However, the situation gets complicated with 5-year old children, who are, frankly, incapable of having meaningfull conversations online and trans kids support groups not really being a thing in schools. Add to the fact that the kid still probably has no idea what the fuck is going on and you get a pretty traumatic school and social experience.

It’s awesome to see this country being more and more open towards those of the LGBT community, but it’s important to take baby steps at times to avoid big decisions taken too quick else we trip and fall.

ok idk what country you’re referring to but i doubt its mine so cut the everyone on the internet is the same country thing pls

anyway that is EXACTLY the narrative my mother used to abuse me and blame me for the way children acted towards me.

no SHIT kids suck but you know what? they’re fucking KIDS. you teach them better. they are malleable and get the point when you tell them. “oh this is what trans means”

telling a KID that THEY need to change so others won’t pick on them is traumatizing to them. I am living proof and have therapy files galore as ample evidence

being trans isn’t a decision second of all

im on mobile and my app crashes every 2 seconds but can some ally please swoop in and help me explain how ridiculous it is this person has the gall to think traumatizing and victim blaming their kid for being trans instead of like setting up a 10 minute meeting w school staff to explain somehow saves them from transphobia

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not to mention kids at that age don’t watch the news and aren’t exposed to the same transphobic propaganda yet. all you’re doing is assuming you know your kids classmates better than they do and fearmongering your kid about how much they’ll get bullied for being themselves

fact is: five year olds don’t care and if they seem to it’s because of adults

cis people always want to say “trans people are treated awful” instead of “we treat trans people awfully and I’m not doing anything about it”

your kids are a different generation and were born for a different time

if you’re not okay with having a trans child then you are telling your child you’d rather have a dead child - because our suicide rates are largely dependant on parental support in every study there has been on the matter. this is easily googleable and you can do better than this transphobic mess of a response.

i know EXACTLY how kids react to trans people because !! i’m trans. i know this better than some random cis person projecting how they think kids act instead of listening to actual trans narratives and the narratives of ally parents of trans people, teachers, loved ones who actually do care and support. kids are learners, that is what they exist to do.

if you think being trans is so difficult to understand or believe that beings who believe in magic, dragons, vampires, that they can be president or princesses could not possibly believe us to be who we are

you’re just projecting

A) It’s not helpful at all to the community to be calling anyone who you think is misinformed about trans “transphobic”. You’re not giving people a good image on your cause by making them appear as the “all evil beings coming out to nab your kids and family”. If you’re going to have a counter-argument, the best thing you can do to get people on your side is by at least being polite. Before you go on thinking this is some radical idea by me to manipulate you and me being “””transphobic””” (which, by the way, I never said anything with intention of hating on trans), it’s not. A polite counter-argument is debating 101. I’m saying this as an outsider, a bisexual cis male. Pretend I’m a random civilian on the fence but unsure as to what it means to be trans, and I want to support wherever I can. I understand you may have been through a lot, but that doesn’t mean you should burst out at people. It’s just awkward and rude. I realize I’m probably just repeating myself, but if I am, then it’s for emphasis. Maybe for this response I should be more direct and upfront about this situation.

B) I’m sorry, but not all kids grow up in the same neighberhood and have the same parents. Your childhood isn’t the same as someone else’s. “I know EXACTLY how kids react to trans people!” That’s a really bold statement. I suppose you’ve met every family in the world? Must be fun to travel around the Earth.

C) I never said I wouldn’t have a trans child 😂. I said more time and knowledge is extremely recommended before making a decision like this. THE KID IS F-ING 5! This is almost like deciding to talk to your child about sex, penises, vaginas, and babies when he’s only 3.

4) “cis people always…” Let me stop you right there. Oh come on! You’re acting like the enemy you’ve sworn to defeat! Generalizing?! It’s not only that but the followup: “‘trans people are treated awful’ instead of ‘I treat trans people awfully and I don’t do anything about it’”. BULLSHIT. You’re giving a middle finger to both the cis who’ve done absoloutely nothing and the cis who have helped the cause!

5) Helping little kids make decisions and protecting them from potential abuses are a parent’s damn job. It’s not abuse in any way, shape, or form to tell a child “are you sure?” It’d be abuse to be a lazy ass “yeah, sure, whatever” parent and raise a bratty child who thinks everything should be set up EXACTLY like he/she wants. Good parents are fun, while at the same time knowing when to say “no”.

I have a trans friend. Jun’s her name. Prior to actually knowing her, I was confused and dumbfounded as to how I should approach her, as I never met a trans. After Gay Marriage was legalized, a whole surge of attention towards the LGBT community went through my school. I’ll admit I initially wanted to be her friend because I wanted the joy of saying “haha lmao i have a trans friend”. But, whenever I said anything to her that she interpreted as wrong, she didn’t get upset. She just smiled and gave a brief explanation. Now she’s the president of my high school’s “TV club” where we film school news and broadcast it around the building. I believe the people like her were the reason my school introduced the new “Gay-Straight Alliance” club last year.

get over yourself tbh? stop victim blaming. i’m not the one who gives trans people a bad name. cis people do that. when i say cis people always? i can tell you that in my entire life, i have not met any cis person who proved me wrong about my generalizations about that ignorance.

any cis person who i trust and who is friends with me, isn’t a fucking ignorant prick who believes i represent all trans people (although i have been on the frontlines of a lot of activism which has helped a lot of trans people)

you are transphobic and if you seriously think just because you hate me for being bitter about it you can just walk it off like it’s not true

say “i didn’t say anything bad about trans” and forget trans people are people we aren’t a concept

that my humanity and respecting me is not fucking up for debate

this isn’t a debate this is about what is proven in studies across the board to contribute directly to trans children killing themselves (look it up with google scholar - ‘transgender suicide’ and you’ll find)

i feel sorrow for all trans people who have ever had the misfortune of having to deal with someone as disgusting and entitled as you.

your friend is not “a trans” your friend is a trans person. trans is an adjective. it’s a way of being a man or woman or whatever else. and this person is not your learning opportunity. neither am i. if you wanted to learn by me, you would have gone about this way better. but you’re just here to get defensive and insult me and any other trans people who speak out.

your friend is not the first trans person you’ve met either. lots of folks are closeted or stealth or you met them as a kid and didn’t question it.

we’ve interacted with kids, trans people are parents, and kids get it.

how can people who believe in vampires and magic and that they can be princesses and presidents not be able to comprehend transness somehow?

why is it so terrible to be trans? because cis people make it that way.

this isn’t about you or your feelings, this is about promoting a world where 5 year olds learn to believe in themselves.

i was suicidal at 11 because my mom promoted this narrative and i attempted at 16 when i realized i actually was trans.

fuck right off if you think i have no idea what the majority of parents are like to trans people. i know, i’ve lived it, my friends have lived it, and you are in the wrong.

“I don’t represent all trans people” “what you say to me is an insult to all trans people” Sweet Jesus, you contradict yourself left and right. “Your kids are born for a different generation for a different time” “I know how kids feel because I was a kid myself”.

“I was suicidal at 11” Funny, I thought we were talking about 5-year olds.

“You’re so transphobic”

At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if you yelled “TRANSPHOBIC PIECE OF SHIT” at a random stranger who said “sorry mam” instead of “sorry sir”.

You go on a little rant because of what I can assume as a simple grammatical error on my part.

“This person is not a learning opportunity”

Me: “Good day sir.”

Jun: “Mam”

Me: “Nani?”

Jun: “I’m trans”

Me: “ohhhhhhh… I-I never met a trans, honestly.”

Jun: “Well, there’s always opportunities to learn new things.

I thought you SJWs were probably more capable with arguments than the Alt-Right. It seems to me now that you’re both mirror copies

you’re equating a group who murders people to a group being murdered and saying our anger is the same

i’m not trying to convince you to “"join my side”“ i just want to live in peace

“Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding.” “Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.” ~ Martin Luther King, Jr.

if anyone wonders why i argue so much w people even just in small ways it’s just that i think they deserve to know there’s reprecussions for being an asshole

Yeah, driving people away from your cause is a pretty big repurcussion of being an asshole.

get the fuck off my blog and stop harassing me

I noticed you were talking shit about me outside of the post. I feel obligated to at least try to defend myself.

if anyone wonders why i argue so much w people even just in small ways it’s just that i think they deserve to know there’s reprecussions for being an asshole

Yeah, driving people away from your cause is a pretty big repurcussion of being an asshole.

So very true

Kids that young are essentially gender neutral, and are still being taught ‘gender norms’ by adults who should know better. 

I have the world’s most precious nephew.  When he was 3, he asked his mom and grandma if he could be a girl. Now, my family is smart.  Both his mom and his grandma asked “why?”  He said it was so he could have long hair. 

His mom showed him photos of famous musicians with long hair, along with Johnny Depp.  His grandma showed him photos of Brad Pitt, Troy Polamalu, and Jared Leto with long hair.  Then they told him “Boys can have long hair, see?”  He said “oh” and went on about his life being a boy.

When he was 4, this same nephew decided again that he wanted to be a girl. This time, the reason was so he could wear skirts and paint his nails.  Same reaction: his mom and grandma showed him photos of men in kilts, and men with painted nails, and said “boys can do that, too.”  He said “oh”, and decided he was okay being a boy. 

At the root of it, he didn’t really want to be a girl. He just wanted to do the same things he saw his mama doing. When he understood he didn’t have to be a girl to do those things, he shrugged it off and was cool with being a boy.

Now, if he ever adamantly decides that he is a girl, not that he wants to be a girl, myself, his mom, and his grandma will be okay with that. We just want to make sure he actually is transgender instead of deciding “oh he wants to do these things, so he is a girl.” We are extremely firm believers in making educated decisions. 

I feel that a transgender four year old is more like a cat who is vegan because the cat’s owner’s misunderstood the cat eating grass to mean it is vegan.

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This is how you do it- this is the best method you can even print up because A: it recognizes the kids lack of conceptual awareness(they dont know) so you have to be super specific and make them aware. B: it re-enforces that gender roles are the fault of these misconceptions- telling him boys can do that too was a great step forward because It tells him that the gender-roles are bullshit. that he can do what he wants. C:if he ends up being trans later-youve exhausted all reasonable doubt and it takes away that sometimes really uncomfortable moment of doubt that the more typical Sudden coming out thats mandatory otherwise brings. you can move on immiediatly to steps to transition and final this is most important; it doesnt force an innocent kid to experience Dysphoria. the very thing that youre trying to fix with Transitioning. someone who doesnt respect this method will find themselves making alot of mistakes in life and ignoring the consequences.

this is not good and being trans should not be doubted like this. my mother did this, tried to make me doubt myself because she didn’t want me to be trans. a tomboy, a lesbian, anything but trans. whatever narrative she could find to convince me i wasn’t who i said i was.

we haven’t spoken since i was 19.

you should never try to convince your kid they aren’t trans and take away and belittle their understanding like this.

most trans kids knew early on

a kid shouldn’t have to be pushed to extreme suffering for you to believe them

you don’t need to exhaust all reasonable doubt

let the kid be a girl. it is not your job as a parent or an ally to try to convince us we aren’t trans. no trans person has ever benefited from that and i still live with that trauma my mom pushed into my life.

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ok im not fucking done tbh

all this does is cause your kid to constantly doubt themselves because YOU THE PARENT have been doubting them this whole time and training them to look at their identity as though it couldn’t possibly be what it is. it does the exact opposite of what you’re saying, i promise you that.

and “transitioning” at that age is literally just switching pronouns and if that kid wants to change up their hair or clothes or whatever that’s sometimes associated too

puberty blockers have no permanent oe negative known side effects, they only delay puberty and have far more benefits than consequences. everyone goes thru puberty (or first puberty anyway) at different ages anyway and it has no social consequence either (not that the parents in this case wouldn’t be the cause of the social consequences…)

it is totally reversible and fine

I think you’re underestimating the effect of a decision as big as this. Kids can be cruel little shits. Having a 5-year old child make a decision as big as becoming trans while he’s still at an age where he doesn’t actually understand what trans is can be dangerous and too risky for many. Kids are curious as hell and some are really intelligent, but I doubt they are developed enough to experience truly complex emotions. A little boy being asked if he “really wants to be a girl” isn’t going to cause some kind of mental breakdown and instantly cause depression within him. It gives the child and parent time to learn and think on the decision. A gender change shouldn’t be treated as something as little as getting your ears pierced. Gender changes are something that can completely change how some view a person. This can be troublesome, especially in places as unpredictable as elementary school. As I said before, kids can be cruel as hell, and it’s been proven (and frankly, somewhat obvious) that trans folks are much more prone to things such as bullying. In a “traditional” setting (trans person is in early teens-young adulthood) this kind of issue can now be pretty easy to bypass thanks to trans support groups, online support, etc. However, the situation gets complicated with 5-year old children, who are, frankly, incapable of having meaningfull conversations online and trans kids support groups not really being a thing in schools. Add to the fact that the kid still probably has no idea what the fuck is going on and you get a pretty traumatic school and social experience.

It’s awesome to see this country being more and more open towards those of the LGBT community, but it’s important to take baby steps at times to avoid big decisions taken too quick else we trip and fall.

ok idk what country you’re referring to but i doubt its mine so cut the everyone on the internet is the same country thing pls

anyway that is EXACTLY the narrative my mother used to abuse me and blame me for the way children acted towards me.

no SHIT kids suck but you know what? they’re fucking KIDS. you teach them better. they are malleable and get the point when you tell them. “oh this is what trans means”

telling a KID that THEY need to change so others won’t pick on them is traumatizing to them. I am living proof and have therapy files galore as ample evidence

being trans isn’t a decision second of all

im on mobile and my app crashes every 2 seconds but can some ally please swoop in and help me explain how ridiculous it is this person has the gall to think traumatizing and victim blaming their kid for being trans instead of like setting up a 10 minute meeting w school staff to explain somehow saves them from transphobia

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not to mention kids at that age don’t watch the news and aren’t exposed to the same transphobic propaganda yet. all you’re doing is assuming you know your kids classmates better than they do and fearmongering your kid about how much they’ll get bullied for being themselves

fact is: five year olds don’t care and if they seem to it’s because of adults

cis people always want to say “trans people are treated awful” instead of “we treat trans people awfully and I’m not doing anything about it”

your kids are a different generation and were born for a different time

if you’re not okay with having a trans child then you are telling your child you’d rather have a dead child - because our suicide rates are largely dependant on parental support in every study there has been on the matter. this is easily googleable and you can do better than this transphobic mess of a response.

i know EXACTLY how kids react to trans people because !! i’m trans. i know this better than some random cis person projecting how they think kids act instead of listening to actual trans narratives and the narratives of ally parents of trans people, teachers, loved ones who actually do care and support. kids are learners, that is what they exist to do.

if you think being trans is so difficult to understand or believe that beings who believe in magic, dragons, vampires, that they can be president or princesses could not possibly believe us to be who we are

you’re just projecting

A) It’s not helpful at all to the community to be calling anyone who you think is misinformed about trans “transphobic”. You’re not giving people a good image on your cause by making them appear as the “all evil beings coming out to nab your kids and family”. If you’re going to have a counter-argument, the best thing you can do to get people on your side is by at least being polite. Before you go on thinking this is some radical idea by me to manipulate you and me being “””transphobic””” (which, by the way, I never said anything with intention of hating on trans), it’s not. A polite counter-argument is debating 101. I’m saying this as an outsider, a bisexual cis male. Pretend I’m a random civilian on the fence but unsure as to what it means to be trans, and I want to support wherever I can. I understand you may have been through a lot, but that doesn’t mean you should burst out at people. It’s just awkward and rude. I realize I’m probably just repeating myself, but if I am, then it’s for emphasis. Maybe for this response I should be more direct and upfront about this situation.

B) I’m sorry, but not all kids grow up in the same neighberhood and have the same parents. Your childhood isn’t the same as someone else’s. “I know EXACTLY how kids react to trans people!” That’s a really bold statement. I suppose you’ve met every family in the world? Must be fun to travel around the Earth.

C) I never said I wouldn’t have a trans child 😂. I said more time and knowledge is extremely recommended before making a decision like this. THE KID IS F-ING 5! This is almost like deciding to talk to your child about sex, penises, vaginas, and babies when he’s only 3.

4) “cis people always…” Let me stop you right there. Oh come on! You’re acting like the enemy you’ve sworn to defeat! Generalizing?! It’s not only that but the followup: “‘trans people are treated awful’ instead of ‘I treat trans people awfully and I don’t do anything about it’”. BULLSHIT. You’re giving a middle finger to both the cis who’ve done absoloutely nothing and the cis who have helped the cause!

5) Helping little kids make decisions and protecting them from potential abuses are a parent’s damn job. It’s not abuse in any way, shape, or form to tell a child “are you sure?” It’d be abuse to be a lazy ass “yeah, sure, whatever” parent and raise a bratty child who thinks everything should be set up EXACTLY like he/she wants. Good parents are fun, while at the same time knowing when to say “no”.

I have a trans friend. Jun’s her name. Prior to actually knowing her, I was confused and dumbfounded as to how I should approach her, as I never met a trans. After Gay Marriage was legalized, a whole surge of attention towards the LGBT community went through my school. I’ll admit I initially wanted to be her friend because I wanted the joy of saying “haha lmao i have a trans friend”. But, whenever I said anything to her that she interpreted as wrong, she didn’t get upset. She just smiled and gave a brief explanation. Now she’s the president of my high school’s “TV club” where we film school news and broadcast it around the building. I believe the people like her were the reason my school introduced the new “Gay-Straight Alliance” club last year.

get over yourself tbh? stop victim blaming. i’m not the one who gives trans people a bad name. cis people do that. when i say cis people always? i can tell you that in my entire life, i have not met any cis person who proved me wrong about my generalizations about that ignorance.

any cis person who i trust and who is friends with me, isn’t a fucking ignorant prick who believes i represent all trans people (although i have been on the frontlines of a lot of activism which has helped a lot of trans people)

you are transphobic and if you seriously think just because you hate me for being bitter about it you can just walk it off like it’s not true

say “i didn’t say anything bad about trans” and forget trans people are people we aren’t a concept

that my humanity and respecting me is not fucking up for debate

this isn’t a debate this is about what is proven in studies across the board to contribute directly to trans children killing themselves (look it up with google scholar - ‘transgender suicide’ and you’ll find)

i feel sorrow for all trans people who have ever had the misfortune of having to deal with someone as disgusting and entitled as you.

your friend is not “a trans” your friend is a trans person. trans is an adjective. it’s a way of being a man or woman or whatever else. and this person is not your learning opportunity. neither am i. if you wanted to learn by me, you would have gone about this way better. but you’re just here to get defensive and insult me and any other trans people who speak out.

your friend is not the first trans person you’ve met either. lots of folks are closeted or stealth or you met them as a kid and didn’t question it.

we’ve interacted with kids, trans people are parents, and kids get it.

how can people who believe in vampires and magic and that they can be princesses and presidents not be able to comprehend transness somehow?

why is it so terrible to be trans? because cis people make it that way.

this isn’t about you or your feelings, this is about promoting a world where 5 year olds learn to believe in themselves.

i was suicidal at 11 because my mom promoted this narrative and i attempted at 16 when i realized i actually was trans.

fuck right off if you think i have no idea what the majority of parents are like to trans people. i know, i’ve lived it, my friends have lived it, and you are in the wrong.

“I don’t represent all trans people” “what you say to me is an insult to all trans people” Sweet Jesus, you contradict yourself left and right. “Your kids are born for a different generation for a different time” “I know how kids feel because I was a kid myself”.

“I was suicidal at 11” Funny, I thought we were talking about 5-year olds.

“You’re so transphobic”

At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if you yelled “TRANSPHOBIC PIECE OF SHIT” at a random stranger who said “sorry mam” instead of “sorry sir”.

You go on a little rant because of what I can assume as a simple grammatical error on my part.

“This person is not a learning opportunity”

Me: “Good day sir.”

Jun: “Mam”

Me: “Nani?”

Jun: “I’m trans”

Me: “ohhhhhhh... I-I never met a trans, honestly.”

Jun: “Well, there’s always opportunities to learn new things.

I thought you SJWs were probably more capable with arguments than the Alt-Right. It seems to me now that you’re both mirror copies

So very true

Kids that young are essentially gender neutral, and are still being taught ‘gender norms’ by adults who should know better. 

I have the world’s most precious nephew.  When he was 3, he asked his mom and grandma if he could be a girl. Now, my family is smart.  Both his mom and his grandma asked “why?”  He said it was so he could have long hair. 

His mom showed him photos of famous musicians with long hair, along with Johnny Depp.  His grandma showed him photos of Brad Pitt, Troy Polamalu, and Jared Leto with long hair.  Then they told him “Boys can have long hair, see?”  He said “oh” and went on about his life being a boy.

When he was 4, this same nephew decided again that he wanted to be a girl. This time, the reason was so he could wear skirts and paint his nails.  Same reaction: his mom and grandma showed him photos of men in kilts, and men with painted nails, and said “boys can do that, too.”  He said “oh”, and decided he was okay being a boy. 

At the root of it, he didn’t really want to be a girl. He just wanted to do the same things he saw his mama doing. When he understood he didn’t have to be a girl to do those things, he shrugged it off and was cool with being a boy.

Now, if he ever adamantly decides that he is a girl, not that he wants to be a girl, myself, his mom, and his grandma will be okay with that. We just want to make sure he actually is transgender instead of deciding “oh he wants to do these things, so he is a girl.” We are extremely firm believers in making educated decisions. 

I feel that a transgender four year old is more like a cat who is vegan because the cat’s owner’s misunderstood the cat eating grass to mean it is vegan.

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This is how you do it- this is the best method you can even print up because A: it recognizes the kids lack of conceptual awareness(they dont know) so you have to be super specific and make them aware. B: it re-enforces that gender roles are the fault of these misconceptions- telling him boys can do that too was a great step forward because It tells him that the gender-roles are bullshit. that he can do what he wants. C:if he ends up being trans later-youve exhausted all reasonable doubt and it takes away that sometimes really uncomfortable moment of doubt that the more typical Sudden coming out thats mandatory otherwise brings. you can move on immiediatly to steps to transition and final this is most important; it doesnt force an innocent kid to experience Dysphoria. the very thing that youre trying to fix with Transitioning. someone who doesnt respect this method will find themselves making alot of mistakes in life and ignoring the consequences.

this is not good and being trans should not be doubted like this. my mother did this, tried to make me doubt myself because she didn’t want me to be trans. a tomboy, a lesbian, anything but trans. whatever narrative she could find to convince me i wasn’t who i said i was.

we haven’t spoken since i was 19.

you should never try to convince your kid they aren’t trans and take away and belittle their understanding like this.

most trans kids knew early on

a kid shouldn’t have to be pushed to extreme suffering for you to believe them

you don’t need to exhaust all reasonable doubt

let the kid be a girl. it is not your job as a parent or an ally to try to convince us we aren’t trans. no trans person has ever benefited from that and i still live with that trauma my mom pushed into my life.

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ok im not fucking done tbh

all this does is cause your kid to constantly doubt themselves because YOU THE PARENT have been doubting them this whole time and training them to look at their identity as though it couldn’t possibly be what it is. it does the exact opposite of what you’re saying, i promise you that.

and “transitioning” at that age is literally just switching pronouns and if that kid wants to change up their hair or clothes or whatever that’s sometimes associated too

puberty blockers have no permanent oe negative known side effects, they only delay puberty and have far more benefits than consequences. everyone goes thru puberty (or first puberty anyway) at different ages anyway and it has no social consequence either (not that the parents in this case wouldn’t be the cause of the social consequences…)

it is totally reversible and fine

I think you’re underestimating the effect of a decision as big as this. Kids can be cruel little shits. Having a 5-year old child make a decision as big as becoming trans while he’s still at an age where he doesn’t actually understand what trans is can be dangerous and too risky for many. Kids are curious as hell and some are really intelligent, but I doubt they are developed enough to experience truly complex emotions. A little boy being asked if he “really wants to be a girl” isn’t going to cause some kind of mental breakdown and instantly cause depression within him. It gives the child and parent time to learn and think on the decision. A gender change shouldn’t be treated as something as little as getting your ears pierced. Gender changes are something that can completely change how some view a person. This can be troublesome, especially in places as unpredictable as elementary school. As I said before, kids can be cruel as hell, and it’s been proven (and frankly, somewhat obvious) that trans folks are much more prone to things such as bullying. In a “traditional” setting (trans person is in early teens-young adulthood) this kind of issue can now be pretty easy to bypass thanks to trans support groups, online support, etc. However, the situation gets complicated with 5-year old children, who are, frankly, incapable of having meaningfull conversations online and trans kids support groups not really being a thing in schools. Add to the fact that the kid still probably has no idea what the fuck is going on and you get a pretty traumatic school and social experience.

It’s awesome to see this country being more and more open towards those of the LGBT community, but it’s important to take baby steps at times to avoid big decisions taken too quick else we trip and fall.

ok idk what country you’re referring to but i doubt its mine so cut the everyone on the internet is the same country thing pls

anyway that is EXACTLY the narrative my mother used to abuse me and blame me for the way children acted towards me.

no SHIT kids suck but you know what? they’re fucking KIDS. you teach them better. they are malleable and get the point when you tell them. “oh this is what trans means”

telling a KID that THEY need to change so others won’t pick on them is traumatizing to them. I am living proof and have therapy files galore as ample evidence

being trans isn’t a decision second of all

im on mobile and my app crashes every 2 seconds but can some ally please swoop in and help me explain how ridiculous it is this person has the gall to think traumatizing and victim blaming their kid for being trans instead of like setting up a 10 minute meeting w school staff to explain somehow saves them from transphobia

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not to mention kids at that age don’t watch the news and aren’t exposed to the same transphobic propaganda yet. all you’re doing is assuming you know your kids classmates better than they do and fearmongering your kid about how much they’ll get bullied for being themselves

fact is: five year olds don’t care and if they seem to it’s because of adults

cis people always want to say “trans people are treated awful” instead of “we treat trans people awfully and I’m not doing anything about it”

your kids are a different generation and were born for a different time

if you’re not okay with having a trans child then you are telling your child you’d rather have a dead child - because our suicide rates are largely dependant on parental support in every study there has been on the matter. this is easily googleable and you can do better than this transphobic mess of a response.

i know EXACTLY how kids react to trans people because !! i’m trans. i know this better than some random cis person projecting how they think kids act instead of listening to actual trans narratives and the narratives of ally parents of trans people, teachers, loved ones who actually do care and support. kids are learners, that is what they exist to do.

if you think being trans is so difficult to understand or believe that beings who believe in magic, dragons, vampires, that they can be president or princesses could not possibly believe us to be who we are

you’re just projecting

A) It’s not helpful at all to the community to be calling anyone who you think is misinformed about trans “transphobic”. You’re not giving people a good image on your cause by making them appear as the “all evil beings coming out to nab your kids and family”. If you’re going to have a counter-argument, the best thing you can do to get people on your side is by at least being polite. Before you go on thinking this is some radical idea by me to manipulate you and me being “””transphobic””” (which, by the way, I never said anything with intention of hating on trans), it’s not. A polite counter-argument is debating 101. I’m saying this as an outsider, a bisexual cis male. Pretend I’m a random civilian on the fence but unsure as to what it means to be trans, and I want to support wherever I can. I understand you may have been through a lot, but that doesn’t mean you should burst out at people. It’s just awkward and rude. I realize I’m probably just repeating myself, but if I am, then it’s for emphasis. Maybe for this response I should be more direct and upfront about this situation.

B) I’m sorry, but not all kids grow up in the same neighberhood and have the same parents. Your childhood isn’t the same as someone else’s. “I know EXACTLY how kids react to trans people!” That’s a really bold statement. I suppose you’ve met every family in the world? Must be fun to travel around the Earth.

C) I never said I wouldn’t have a trans child 😂. I said more time and knowledge is extremely recommended before making a decision like this. THE KID IS F-ING 5! This is almost like deciding to talk to your child about sex, penises, vaginas, and babies when he’s only 3.

4) “cis people always...” Let me stop you right there. Oh come on! You’re acting like the enemy you’ve sworn to defeat! Generalizing?! It’s not only that but the followup: “‘trans people are treated awful’ instead of ‘I treat trans people awfully and I don’t do anything about it’”. BULLSHIT. You’re giving a middle finger to both the cis who’ve done absoloutely nothing and the cis who have helped the cause!

5) Helping little kids make decisions and protecting them from potential abuses are a parent’s damn job. It’s not abuse in any way, shape, or form to tell a child “are you sure?” It’d be abuse to be a lazy ass “yeah, sure, whatever” parent and raise a bratty child who thinks everything should be set up EXACTLY like he/she wants. Good parents are fun, while at the same time knowing when to say “no”.

I have a trans friend. Jun’s her name. Prior to actually knowing her, I was confused and dumbfounded as to how I should approach her, as I never met a trans. After Gay Marriage was legalized, a whole surge of attention towards the LGBT community went through my school. I’ll admit I initially wanted to be her friend because I wanted the joy of saying “haha lmao i have a trans friend”. But, whenever I said anything to her that she interpreted as wrong, she didn’t get upset. She just smiled and gave a brief explanation. Now she’s the president of my high school’s “TV club” where we film school news and broadcast it around the building. I believe the people like her were the reason my school introduced the new “Gay-Straight Alliance” club last year.

So very true

Kids that young are essentially gender neutral, and are still being taught ‘gender norms’ by adults who should know better. 

I have the world’s most precious nephew.  When he was 3, he asked his mom and grandma if he could be a girl. Now, my family is smart.  Both his mom and his grandma asked “why?”  He said it was so he could have long hair. 

His mom showed him photos of famous musicians with long hair, along with Johnny Depp.  His grandma showed him photos of Brad Pitt, Troy Polamalu, and Jared Leto with long hair.  Then they told him “Boys can have long hair, see?”  He said “oh” and went on about his life being a boy.

When he was 4, this same nephew decided again that he wanted to be a girl. This time, the reason was so he could wear skirts and paint his nails.  Same reaction: his mom and grandma showed him photos of men in kilts, and men with painted nails, and said “boys can do that, too.”  He said “oh”, and decided he was okay being a boy. 

At the root of it, he didn’t really want to be a girl. He just wanted to do the same things he saw his mama doing. When he understood he didn’t have to be a girl to do those things, he shrugged it off and was cool with being a boy.

Now, if he ever adamantly decides that he is a girl, not that he wants to be a girl, myself, his mom, and his grandma will be okay with that. We just want to make sure he actually is transgender instead of deciding “oh he wants to do these things, so he is a girl.” We are extremely firm believers in making educated decisions. 

I feel that a transgender four year old is more like a cat who is vegan because the cat’s owner’s misunderstood the cat eating grass to mean it is vegan.

👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆

This is how you do it- this is the best method you can even print up because A: it recognizes the kids lack of conceptual awareness(they dont know) so you have to be super specific and make them aware. B: it re-enforces that gender roles are the fault of these misconceptions- telling him boys can do that too was a great step forward because It tells him that the gender-roles are bullshit. that he can do what he wants. C:if he ends up being trans later-youve exhausted all reasonable doubt and it takes away that sometimes really uncomfortable moment of doubt that the more typical Sudden coming out thats mandatory otherwise brings. you can move on immiediatly to steps to transition and final this is most important; it doesnt force an innocent kid to experience Dysphoria. the very thing that youre trying to fix with Transitioning. someone who doesnt respect this method will find themselves making alot of mistakes in life and ignoring the consequences.

this is not good and being trans should not be doubted like this. my mother did this, tried to make me doubt myself because she didn’t want me to be trans. a tomboy, a lesbian, anything but trans. whatever narrative she could find to convince me i wasn’t who i said i was.

we haven’t spoken since i was 19.

you should never try to convince your kid they aren’t trans and take away and belittle their understanding like this.

most trans kids knew early on

a kid shouldn’t have to be pushed to extreme suffering for you to believe them

you don’t need to exhaust all reasonable doubt

let the kid be a girl. it is not your job as a parent or an ally to try to convince us we aren’t trans. no trans person has ever benefited from that and i still live with that trauma my mom pushed into my life.

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ok im not fucking done tbh

all this does is cause your kid to constantly doubt themselves because YOU THE PARENT have been doubting them this whole time and training them to look at their identity as though it couldn’t possibly be what it is. it does the exact opposite of what you’re saying, i promise you that.

and “transitioning” at that age is literally just switching pronouns and if that kid wants to change up their hair or clothes or whatever that’s sometimes associated too

puberty blockers have no permanent oe negative known side effects, they only delay puberty and have far more benefits than consequences. everyone goes thru puberty (or first puberty anyway) at different ages anyway and it has no social consequence either (not that the parents in this case wouldn’t be the cause of the social consequences…)

it is totally reversible and fine

I think you’re underestimating the effect of a decision as big as this. Kids can be cruel little shits. Having a 5-year old child make a decision as big as becoming trans while he’s still at an age where he doesn’t actually understand what trans is can be dangerous and too risky for many. Kids are curious as hell and some are really intelligent, but I doubt they are developed enough to experience truly complex emotions. A little boy being asked if he “really wants to be a girl” isn’t going to cause some kind of mental breakdown and instantly cause depression within him. It gives the child and parent time to learn and think on the decision. A gender change shouldn’t be treated as something as little as getting your ears pierced. Gender changes are something that can completely change how some view a person. This can be troublesome, especially in places as unpredictable as elementary school. As I said before, kids can be cruel as hell, and it’s been proven (and frankly, somewhat obvious) that trans folks are much more prone to things such as bullying. In a “traditional” setting (trans person is in early teens-young adulthood) this kind of issue can now be pretty easy to bypass thanks to trans support groups, online support, etc. However, the situation gets complicated with 5-year old children, who are, frankly, incapable of having meaningfull conversations online and trans kids support groups not really being a thing in schools. Add to the fact that the kid still probably has no idea what the fuck is going on and you get a pretty traumatic school and social experience.

It’s awesome to see this country being more and more open towards those of the LGBT community, but it’s important to take baby steps at times to avoid big decisions taken too quick else we trip and fall.