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//Greek🇬🇷 art student, with a passion for drawing ancient greek mythology and history.🏛️ https://linktr.ee/margaret_artstuff

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Artemis and Dionysus

Yay! It's punishin' time ! I wonder who the victim is. Since they're both "interested" (i.e angry), I headcannon it's some guy disrespecting a maenad. Artemis, the protector of women, would also intervene.

Or, since they're both gods of nature and wilderness, the guy could have desecrated a forest/mountain/animal.

The guy in question is probably a king, as Dionysus mostly punishes kings and not commoners (Pentheus, Lycurgus...). Artemis just punishes whoever makes her, her family or her huntresses uncomfortable (R.I.P Acteon)

But that's just my theory.

Yes to all of this! Love every idea 😍

I liked this post, scrolled for like another minute before I went “SHIT FUCK SHIT” and scrolled back to reblog it

I always reblog this one when I see it on my dash. When someone posts their own art, writing, or music here they are really hoping you will share it.

Something that bothers me to no end is the over romanticism and over sexualisation of Hades and Persephone, especially in books/webcomics. Like there are a cool couple but Demeter and Persephone got completely screwed over by Hades in that myth.

if you want a badass Greek Mythology couple to do that to then please please Eros and Psyche/Ares and Aphrodite are RIGHT THERE!!

Booktok over promotes romantic books with toxic relationships.

Like recently there's this book called Haunting Adeline and it's about stalker and obsession and assault..and people love it apparently..

So i am not surprised Hades and Persephone has been ruined over some retellings the demographic is questionable at times what they like

Anonymous asked:

Saw your art about Hebe and Heracles what do you think of them as a couple? Do you think that Hercules now immortal would forgive Hera and have a good relationship with her daughter?

Like imagine the woman that putted him in so much torment eventually forgives him and blesses his marriage with her daughter? How do you think Heracles would react? You he be cold at first with Hebe but eventually be soft?

There's no much about them and that leaves room to make it up for it. Hercules would certainly be bitter and shocked ,that Hera the one that putted so much torment to him now wants to marry him with her daughter of all people.

They forgive eachother eventually but maybe it took time for them to reconcile. That's just my personal opinion of course ☺️

At first, because of his feelings of Hera he may transfer them into his relationship with Hebe. Maybe indeed he would ignore her and give her a cold shoulder at the beginning, maybe trying to deal with his trauma as well. Hebe would be sad but understanding of the situation and would give him space. She would be kind to him and patient and Heracles wouldn't know how to react to that since she's not like her mother.

Of course the couple eventually lives happily like the original myth, but it's always fun to think of their interaction especially knowing Heracles story

Anonymous asked:

Do you think because Ariadne was first insecure ,she would later become more confident thanks to her husband Dionysus? For example she’s confident in dancing, teasing him, kissing him first and doing all those unexpected things to him.

Dionysus will definitely be impressed like *.* what a wife he has!

Actually Ariadne i believe when she was very young was adventurous, brave and excited to learn, hence her fascination later with the maze.

As an adult she matured, but still maintained her passion for adventure. She knew how to travel through the maze to just see her brother, that's bravery over there. Also a little shy as an adult but witty, as we learn that she was able to help Theseus defeat the Minotaur. Also a little risky because she was quick to leave her life in Crete behind because of love.

I think after though Theseus she's heartbroken and she starts to be insecure since she was left alone and abandoned away from her family. And these insecurities tend to be present in her new relationship with Dionysus, but he would understand her fears and help put her at ease, showing how much he loves and appreciates her 😌

10 best animated movies to watch in Greek

One of the best ways to practice a language is by watching a movie. Even more so, watching an animated movie dubbed in your target language can be really fun and useful, as these movies tend to include jokes (even inside jokes specific to the language) and songs. So, without further ado, here is my personal list of 10 best animated movies to watch in Greek.

10. Shrek 2

The reason I am recommending Shrek 2 instead of Shrek is just because I have the - maybe not standard, but certainly not unpopular - opinion that Sherk 2 is overall a funnier movie than Shrek. The Greek dub maintains successfully all the witty and somewhat adult-oriented humour. The voice casting done for characters like Donkey, Puss in Boots and Gingy is memorable and accurate.

9. Lion King

The voice casting is really good. Adult Simba has a sympathetic voice, Mufasa has a superb kingly radio voice, the hyenas are hysterical, Zazu is funny too, Nala's voice is warm and womanly. I also love Scar's voice. Scar has a sinister voice but it's a weaker, not as “thick” a voice as Mufasa’s, just like Scar relied on the evilness of his mind and not his muscles. Timon and Pumba's dub is iconic. Greek Can you feel the love and Be Prepared are fantastic versions of the songs. And Greek Mufasa just steals every scene vocally, especially those when he appears in Simba's memory.

8. Monsters INC

Another amazing voice casting for all characters but we all (Greeks) know that this is one man's show. Christos Hatzipanayotis just KILLS it as Mike Wazowski. I believe Greek Wazowski is much funnier than the original. Also let's remember "Fovízume yatí sas frondízume" lol the Greek "We scare because we care (for you)"

7. Finding Nemo

This dub did something special with the casting. It casted as Marlin and Dory two actors that had already worked together in a super famous comedy series as a couple. As a result, their chemistry is off the roof and Dimitra Papadopoulou's voice is incredibly accurate for Dory's character. Dory's whale language is hysterical and I also love the incredibly relaxed voice actor they found for that turtle reincarnation of Bob Marley. All other casting is good too, except I want to slap the extremely nasal Nemo.

6. Sleeping Beauty

Although I love this movie dearly and I really like its Greek version, I actually place it that high because I have found it to be really popular with foreign people. Some say they like Aurora's song better in Greek, which I find interesting as I really love the original. It is surely a masterful work though. It is an old movie and the Greek actors speak more elegantly, more sophisticatedly like people tended to, back then. The voices suit properly an aethereal princess and her dreamy prince, the fairies have these warm, elderly, ladylike voices and Maleficent also is imposing and very cold.

5. Aristocats

This is a perfect example where it is clear that both the voice casting directors and the actors worked their asses off. Every actor chosen is simply ideal for their character, including the kittens, Edgar the evil servant, the diva, the super SUPER old lawyer, the tomcats, Lady is so prim and proper, Uncle Waldo and the goose nieces with their Britsh accent Greek lol BUT. I have no idea how it dawned on them to make the dog couple have a comedic Heptanesian island accent but whoever that was, they were a bloody genius. Not only it's impeccably performed, it's twice as hilarious when you see them in an old Parisian environment speaking some really strong Heptanesian out of nowhere. The dogs in the original do not have any particularly heavy accent to my understanding, so if you watch the original after you have watched the Greek, you won't even understand they are supposed to be funny. I love that the Greek directors took the uneventful speech of the dogs and were like "Clearly, we 're gonna make them speak extreme Heptanesian" XD

4. Spirit: The Stallion of the Cimarron

Spirit has mostly narration and songs, it has very few dialogues. Its songs are amazing though and they really make a difference in the movie. In the Greek dub, both the narrating and singing role was given to singer - actor Yannis Savvidakis who is very talented. Not only he performed those songs wonderfully but I liked how well it maintained the feel of rock ballads coming from America, despite being sung in a language from a place that has nothing to do with any of this.

3. The Emperor's New Groove

Okay, we reached the Golden Triad. The Emperor's New Groove is, simply put, the best Disney comedy to date. If we consider that the Greek version is funnier than the original, as I strongly believe, you get a comedy for the ages. The voice casting is PERFECT. Every voice chosen is like it was created for the character, the characters get life and personality through the vocal performances. Kuzco sounds blasé, egocentric, sarcastic and you want to slap him silly, Kronk sounds like a soft dumbass himbo which is what he is, Pacha is your everyday good-hearted peasant, Yzma is killing it as the old ambitious narcissist. The humour is awesome and tranferred ideally into Greek comedy. It just works on every level. I can't explain it more, it's just perfect. While this movie is unfairly obscure and underrated on a global level, in Greece it was a hit and people still remember quotes by heart, exactly beause the dub was so god-tier level.

2. The Hunchback of Notre Dame

Okay. The dub of dubs. The Dub of Notre Dame. Seriously, this is a masterpiece on every aspect. Again, this is better than the original. Esmeralda has a sensual, really beautiful speaking voice and an outstanding singing one (Alcestis Protopsalti y'all), Frollo has an ideal casting in that he sounds like a bad person but in a totally realistic way (as he is also a very realistic villain) and he sounds so very sophisticated, very elegant. Sinister and elegant, which makes total sense as in the Disney version he is the supreme justice minister of Paris. Quasimodo is voiced by Sakis Rouvas (a sexy singer with a soft voice), who a few found like a somewhat odd pairing but it works perfectly since Disney's Quasimodo is soft, sensitive and considerably sophisticated as well. Clopin's singing is done by tenor Konstantinos Paliatsaras. The songs in the Greek version are in my opinion better performed than in English. Hellfire is quite possibly the most loved villain song in Greece. A small example to understand the level of perfection; the intro song "Bells of Notre Dame" has an extremely difficult ending note that only a few versions globally managed to hit. Even the original singer struggles with the note, he hits it but a little weakly, he is very supported and almost covered by backing vocals. In other versions, even this is not possible at all and singers just skip the note. The Greek version by Paliatsaras is one of the very few where the note is hit correctly, he essentially rips it apart, but I think it is also the only version (unless something escapes me) where the lyrics were different in a way that it made a difference to the singing. All versions I have heard are a variation of the original "bells, bells, bells, bells" which prepares the crescendo / raise of the pitch and then, "of notre DAAAAAME". Greek is the only version I have listened to where a full sentence is delivered effortlessly, without a repetition of "bells". "Ke ihún pandú kambánes stin karthyá tis panaYAAAAAS". It's a full sentence instead of a convenient one-syllable word over and over. Of course, it had to be done because the word for bells in Greek (kambánes) wouldn't work but it still was a harder thing to deliver than the repetition and it was accomplished even better. Okay, in short, Oscar worthy dub. Perfect in every way. I am in love with it, you can tell. The only reason it is not first is because the first spot had to be saved for the obvious one.

1. Hercules

The obvious first spot. Of course, it doesn't take it without deserving it. Greeks really made sure to give this one even more attention to detail. So, it doesn't only feel like it's natural, it also IS the most natural one, as contemporary languages go. All voice casting is once more ideal. Hercules, or Heracles as he is of course in Greek, has a sensitive, warm, sympathetic voice. They did a great thing with Megara when they gave the role to Evridiki who has a more mature, seasoned voice which fits Megara's character and not like a girly, princessy, out-of-place voice. Famous comedian Lakis Lazopoulos steals the show in all his scenes and they are MANY, since he plays Philoktetes and Pain AND Panic, all three of them! But he can't steal the scenes where Hades is in, as Konstantinos Tzoumas is in reality the big star of the movie. First and foremost, you watch this movie for Hades. One more fantastic detail in my opinion is what they did with the Muses. So you know, the original movie Muses are singing a liberal style of American gospel. Instead of ditching it as unfitting and entirely inaccurate, the Greek directors played along with it. Most notably, one of the Muses is voiced by Julie Massino, a vocal coach and singer born and raised in the US (I don't know if she has Greek descent) who lives and works in Greece, so she has a natural and strong American accent in her Greek! I just found this so cool. It is a really cool dub. They knew the stakes were very high and they delivered down to the very last detail.

*We really had to title this: Heracles - Beyond the Myth...!

Ok adding some more, in no particular order:

1. The Prince of Egypt

This movie in Greek is a delight. First of all, in the soundtrack, they managed to maintain the Hebrew words without butchering them, which for me is a big YAY. The cast is also amazing. Leonidas Koukouris as Moses is phenomenal (Ο Δούκας από τις Μέλισσες λαέ θα τρελαθώ), Kostas Apostolidis as Ramses is just the right person for it (Λαέ ο Μπακόπουλος από τη Νταντά), not to mention the rest of the cast including Iro Loupi and Tasos Kostis. The lyrics of the songs were somehow even more menacing in Greek, (which is OMG HOW DID YOU MANAGE THAT I wanna hug the lyricist Anna Ioannidou), and really I'll stop here because I'll rant for eternity.

2. Lilo and Stitch

OMG THIS FRANCHISE IS EVERYTHING. In Greek the voices are like what you expect to hear, even Stitch! (which is mind boggling but here we are.) I prefer watching it in Greek dub because of that.

3. Bolt

This was adapted for the Greek audience by Michalis Reppas and Thanasis Papathanasiou, which is like the Greek golden duo of successful comedy stuff. They are the golden standard for modern times. Having said that, the cast is also something of a dream, with Thodoris Atheridis as Bolt, Katerina Tsavalou as Penny and Mittens and Rhino being voiced by Smaragda Karydi and Antonis Loudaros respectively. (Antonis Loudaros is PHENOMENAL, go look him up people.) And the songs. THE SONGS ARE BLOODY AMAZING THANK YOU SO MUCH Ilia Achladioti and Ilia Matami!

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4. Atlantis - The Lost Empire

Maybe my personal favourite! Everyone's voices are on point, like 1000%.

Vilma Tsakiri as Mrs Packard is still haunting me, (in a good way), not to mention Paulos Kontogiannidis as Mr Whitmore. And let's not forget Dimitris Koutroubalis and Calliope Euaggelidou as Milo and Kida. The rest of the cast is also off the charts, having people like Sakis Mpoulas (We miss you always, you were amazing!), Vicky Koulianou as Helga and Giannis Voglis voicing Kida's father King Kashekim Nedakh.

I will add this amazing iconic movie. It had the best cast for dub and the humor was hilarious 😂

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Artemis' design in hadesgame kind of bothers me. I feel like they put her thighs on display here. Idk

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I mean many of the designs I've seen in hades have exposed thighs i think.

What kinda bothers me is the horns, the blonde hair and most of all, the racoon tail thingies. We do not have racoons in greece. Also somehow she's giving me norse god vibes, with the headdress and the furs.

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I believe this Artemis design was inspired by Studio ghibli's princess Mononoke

I can see many similarities here when i first played this game

Anonymous asked:

Have you ever thought about the myths setting in different timelines in Greek history but have the same plot, just different looks.

Yes i have thought about it and also it's not uncommon here. In theatre plays often times instead of having the set in ancient Greece it would be about parts of another history in Greece.

For example i went one time to see Euripide's Antigone play and the timeline was during WW2 so the clothes and setting of the house was on that time. Still same plot and ending but slightly minor differences.

Also i have in my mind some new OCs based on that idea ;)

What could have been...⚡

often considered to be the most important myth of Orphism. Zeus had intercourse with Persephone in the form of a serpent, producing Dionysus (otherwise Zagreus). He is taken to Mount Ida where (like the infant Zeus) he is guarded by the dancing Curetes.

Zeus intended Dionysus to be his successor as ruler of the cosmos, and even as child Dionysus was able to hold Zeus's thunder bolts when he would sit on his lap, which caused Hera to be jealous and fearful of his growing powers, that she incited the Titans to kill the child.

Distracting the infant Dionysus with various toys, including a mirror, the Titans seized Dionysus and tore (or cut) him to pieces. The pieces were then boiled, roasted and partially eaten, by the Titans. But Athena managed to save Dionysus' heart, by which Zeus was able to contrive his rebirth from Semele.

Anonymous asked:

The original myths were so compelling and I like the analysis of the myths without necessarily turning them into debates about politics and other ideologies.

Just a small community appreciating other cultures and making beautiful art about it

Yes like my ancestors said "παν μέτρον άριστον" which means all things needs balance in life.

Enjoy the myths and have fun 😊 it's more enjoyable that way than belittling it and criticising it.

Also that's the things i like about Tumblr is that even among the chaos of this app and toxicity, there are many great mutuals who share your interests and have fun together.

Anonymous asked:

You said it about diversity right? Like I agree how amazing it would be to see mythology movies about other countries?

Like African, Native American, Sumerian that have nothing to do with colonialism or recent events. Just nice concepts about the diversity of different cultures. I wouldn’t like someone taking my culture and replacing it with another one just because it’s the most popular!

Ugh that would give me such serotonin 🥲

A movie about ancient civilizations just showing their daily lives, epic wars the modern world hasn't seen before would amazing!

Also with good production imagine the amazing costumes they could present like Sumerian, Babylonian culture or Native American. But also casting people from those countries would be the best type of diversity.

Hollywood would gain respect that way and to put it in their language...more money.

Anonymous asked:

I don’t understand this whole obsession with skin colour I believe it started and escalated in the US to the point now everything is racist to them and think that skin colour matters to all countries.

Sorry to point it out but not everyone cares about it… the anon clearly doesn’t look further than the problems that benefit them and also do they think that Greeks won’t care when someone disrespects their culture which is something that has been done for years?

And there's no need for that obsession. There are many countries with diverse culture and history that makes feel anything but in awe and curious to explore.

I had a fascination for history ever since i was little and i would watch DVD (yes i am ancient xd) documentaries about Egypt, Greek and Asia culture. Now with internet the access is immeasurable. People should be more open and respect a different opinion no be judgemental 🙂

That's a problem that is happening everywhere not just the US is not fair to include them all in the same basket, but there's no denying their influence. The point is understanding the differences of the different cultures and not twist it with "modern ideologies".

Anonymous asked:

I read your and some other Greek people's accounts on race within depictions of Deities, and I fully see where you're coming from! Can you please comment on instances of Deities of Greek Pantheon being depicted as Black-coded within Ancient sources though? Like, since "Zeus Athiops" is a thing, and we know that this word has skin color connotations + specific African region.

I hope this doesn't come off as a weird question. Like, I fully see where "depict Greek Deities as Greek or mixed with Greek" comes from! And yet I'm curious what we should do with cases where a Greek Deity is either moved to another ethnic region via usage of epithets... or when the Greek Deity is initially from a different region in the first place, like acquired cult?

If it helps, I'm not American and I know the whole race issue is an American thing. So, do you think that depictions of Greek Deities can look a variety of ways as long as there's something Greek about them? /gen

Thank you for your time!

I believe there's more to Zeus's "Athiops" to explore. By quote:

AE′THIOPS (Aithiops), the Glowing or the Black. A surname of Zeus, under which he was worshipped in the island of Chios. Ancient Aethiopia, (Greek: Αἰθιοπία, romanized: Aithiopía; also known as Ethiopia) first appears as a geographical term in classical documents in reference to the upper Nile region of Sudan, as well as certain areas south of the Sahara. Its earliest mention is in the works of Homer: twice in the Iliad,and three times in the Odyssey. The Greek historian Herodotus "specifically" uses the appellation to refer to such parts of sub-Saharan Africa as were then known within the inhabitable world.

But these were regions back then and places within the Greek expansion so the people of that region likely referred to him that way, but not to explicitly state the colour of his skin.

In previous posts i have mentioned that i would really prefer to have the Greek gods look like Greeks, since that's the place they originated and were worshipped. Stating a theory based on only a few sources can't cover thousands of others that depicted him otherwise and were before this Athiops term. Also take another country for example, would it make sense for Indian gods to be seen as chinese or African? No, so the same goes to the Greek gods.

Hope that answered your question 😊