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Scooby Doo Where Are You is an autumn show.
What’s New Scooby Doo is a summer show.
No I won’t elaborate.
Miles shouldn't be worried about how his parents are gonna react when he reveals his identity. They love him, we know this.
He should be worried about how his dad will react when he realizes his son full on sassed him in broad fuckin daylight and got away with it for days
*sigh* seeing Hobie's british accent in fanfiction is one direction/harry styles all over again
I was wondering why miles isn’t being subject to the same level of fandom mischaracterisation as pavitr and hobie before realising that he’s at least american and that the experience of an indian and black british kid respectively are so alien and unempathic to US-centric fandoms that they have to be moulded into an unrecognisable blob of westernised yaoi-fied tropes before people can even begin engaging with them on a personal level
No one lathers their tits like women in a horror movie. If you're in a slasher you gotta spend 15 minutes washing each breast.
Okay, quick thing about ATSV to counter some of the opinions I've seen floating around on here:
There are plenty of valid criticisms to be made of Miguel in this movie, but at no point does he try to kill Miles. He has claws, and in his very first fight scene we see him take Vulture's wing clean off with them. Later, we see them go right through the metal of that train/shuttle thing Miles was running up. He got close enough to use them on Miles on multiple occasions and did not. He literally had his hands on Miles' throat at one point; it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just slit his throat then and there.
If we’re going with comic canon, then the claws are out by default and it takes concentration to retract them, so not only was he not trying to kill Miles, he was actively concentrating on non-lethal strikes.
TL;DR: If Miguel wanted Miles dead, Miles would be dead. Chew him out for his unnecessarily rigid worldview and extreme methods all you like, but he's not a child murderer.
When I first watched ATSV I thought Miguel's backstory was "my family (which had died in my universe) was alive in this other universe, and the me from that universe just died, so I took his place to be with my family again (who then, of course, all died in the glitch-fest)"
And like, damn imagine going from your "I couldn't save them" guilt in your universe to "I got them killed" guilt in the other universe. That would understandably mess someone up.
BUT, when I watched it a second time, it sounded like Miguel's actual backstory was more like "no I never had a family in my own universe or anything, but I found a universe where parallel!me DID have a family and he just died so I just went 'guess I'm Dad now'."
Which is like. Still very tragic but so much funnier. Miguel showed up one day and went "oh I died that sucks. hey that kid is my daughter now." without so much as a second thought. Scooped her up on sight. Reverse cuckoo-nested that kid. Home-unwrecked that family. Miguel O'Hara said "hey is anyone else gonna adopt my daughter?" and did not wait for an answer. FUNNIER if he just went "this is my wife now, too."
If he weren't so busy angsting and butt-modeling would he just haphazardly adopt all the under-18 Spidermen? Miguel "You don't have to go save your dad Miles I am your dad" O'Hara. Miguel "You said I could hold Mayday you never said I had to give her back" O'Hara. Miguel "I'm not mad I'm just disappointed in you Hobie" O'Hara.
Motherfucker's so afraid of sneezing and erasing a canon event otherwise he'd be fluffed up over a brood of spider-teens in his lair like the Batman-knockoff he was always meant to be.
Gwen receiving so much criticism over her character arc in ATSV is wild cuz that's literally the plot of the movie, that's what the movie is all about and that's what made it this good. That's what's intended to happen, she's repeating the mistake with a friend, and going for a redemption. Her first lines are literally "I hurt him and he wasn't the only one". You immediately know something bad will happen between her and Miles and that it will be, if not entirely, then mostly, her fault, which she is aware of when she's telling the story. The movie doesn't portray her as the best character and definitely not as the worst one, it gives her character development, just like her dad wasn't there for her at first and by the end of the film he was. No one's saying that she was entirely right, but that just like her dad, she saw that she wasn't there for a loved one and decided to try to fix the problem before It's too late - which is so much more than what a lot of characters usually do. Literally everyone makes mistakes, it's how she handled it that's great and as long as she doesn't repeat it (same for her dad too).
Guys I know it’s obvious or if it’s a total reach but you can literally see Hobie trying to stop Miles from walking into HQ physically every time they ever got closer to Miguel
You can see him put his arm around Miles first saying he doesn’t follow orders at first, and then when they got closer to Miguel, you see him try to distract Miles by breaking parts off the walls to slow him down, you see him get closer to Miles when they’re closer to meeting Miguel, and you even him put his legs up on the table to stop Miles from walking closer to Miguel but he just keeps going.
I know it was for plot/backstory purposes but miguel watching his trauma videos and sending himself into a spiral right before confronting miles is so funny
I love the vibe that Hobie, Gwen, Pavitr, and Miles have going on BUT I think Peni should get to be part of it as she is also a Spider Teenager with Angsty Spider Teenager Problems and I just want good things for her
If I had a nickel for every time a banger movie dropped an antagonist that isn’t inherently bad but to the eyes of the protagonist they are— when in reality, they’re just doing their job while also providing a moral lesson to the protagonist. I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot but I’m glad to have these two nickels anyways
The discourse about Gwen not "really" being trans in ATSV is exactly the reason why queer characters and queer stories are in this boring and unsatisfying state they're in right now.
Because it seems to the people complaining about how the movie handled her there are only two ways of doing "representation":
And even though both of these seem complete opposites of each other they are unsatisfying in the long term. None of them are inherently bad and definitely important stepping stones and developments as our culture moves to more trans inclusivity and acceptance (and similar things could be said about portrayals of other marginalised groups) but in the end neither of these options allows for trans characters be CHARACTERS in ways that are afforded to cis characters in that they get to have stories that are not merely about their gender identity.
(Not that stories about gender identity are bad but I'm sure we all agree that trans people are being done a disservice if the only stories they get to appear in are ABOUT being trans.)
And likewise the explicit "my identity is X but don't worry it's not gonna come up in any way" is basically just a coat of paint and a point on a checklist that leads to sanitised "disney's first openly whatever character" of the week with toy tie ins and tiktok ad campaigns. It's meant to be consumable and ultimately meaningless. Please don't ask for this because you deserve more.
I went into the movie largely unspoilt but I caught some spoilers about Gwen being transgender figuring into its text somehow and I was really worried it was going to take one of these two shapes and either be perfunctory and superficial or heavy handed and distracting.
But in the end it really showed that you don't have to do either of these things but instead can use a character's gender identity to strengthen the impact of a completely different story that is fully unrelated and that's just so good???
Because we have this whole "coming out as spiderman (or -woman)" subplot that Miles and Gwen are going through, but instead of just using this as a cheap "this is just like coming out as transgender if you think about it. as long as you don't think too hard" it is instead used to INFORM Gwen's perspective on things because when she is talking about trusting your parents she is not JUST talking about being spiderwoman. And depending on when you catch on to her being portrayed as trans this might dawn on you earlier or later.
But not only this but then they make the EXPLICIT and GLARING choice to DRENCH her reconciliation scene in the trans colours and unlike so many other "look we have the trans colours this means you're represented!!" ways other movies employ this it actually MEANS something in the scene because it is a moment of acceptance and there is this whole resonance with the idea of being accepted for your real gender by your parents that just makes the whole scene work on a completely different level emotionally.
It's just really good okay?
