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cleo

@lesbofox

blogging about mean lesbianism

the amount of lesbophobia I’ve seen on here makes me want to destroy my phone and laptop and run away to the woods and live there forever

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yeah and this own fucking website indulges it. I will not be coming back to see more of this shitshow

The nature of this site is that every few years there's some kind of "misandry is totally real guys" discourse that pops up from men (both cis and trans) who are either just misogynists or they have forgotten what the world outside of tumblr is like.

Every time people keep having to explain that no, actually misandry isn't a thing (and neither is androphobia which is just misandry but rebranded to sound more progressive) but this time apparently when you explain that misandry isn't real people will call you terfy even if you're transfem.

Like I get that this shit is mostly started by weird dickheads online but I've seen like actually otherwise cool people fall for it and like have you guys never been outside? Do you genuinely think that a few people in progressive spaces not liking men means men are oppressed or whatever? Do you not see how you're parroting right wing talking points? In real life men are still opressing women and the patriarchy is very much still a thing

"lesbians are in the lgbtq+ acronym because they used to support gay men ♡"

do you... do you hear yourselves

stop using the current trans oppression going on in the USA as an excuse to not listen to other lgbtq+ issues. "but you HAVE to focus on-" no, I actually do not. I live in the country that kills the most trans people (specially of color) in the whole fucking world, yet you guys only give a shit when it's your gringo ass problem. maybe start caring about people outside of your bubble first and then we can talk.

"hi! I know this post is for lesbians, but as a bi-"

I WILL LITERALLY CHAINSAW MY WAY THROUGH YOUR THICKASS HEAD AND THEN SHRED YOUR BRAIN TO PIECES AND FORCE YOUR FAMILY TO EAT IT

literally brasil is top 1 on killing trans people yet i never see anyone saying "hey, let's stop everything and fight for trans brasilians' rights", why is that?

"read stone butch blue before talking!!!"

bitch pick up ANY non-USA-american book about lgbtq+ history around the world lmao get over yourself and your gringo ass

"Omg people don't HATE lesbians that's just the hysterical dykes making up something so they can keep being hostile and hysterical."

Hey remember the lesbian TikToker whose personality was very cheerful, sweet and colorful and because of that people were telling her "You're actually pansexual" because she was "too nice" to be a lesbian? Even after she kept saying she's a fucking lesbian over and over again, and people were literally just like "Um, no you're wrong, you have to like men to not be a complete cunt as a woman"?

Not to mention all the instances I personally know of of lesbians who were bullied so badly by bi and pan people that they ended up traumatized and trying to force themselves to be straight or to at least like men. As in doing some good ol' conversion therapy on themselves simply because being a lesbian in this world, ESPECIALLY in the LGBT community, is even more painful than that.

Gee, I wonder why this ↑ isn't the version of the post people are reblogging the most.

You see, when individual lesbians do something wrong to someone else this must be Blasted and Every Single Lesbian must be held accountable for the damage and barred from community until proven innocent (don't worry, lesbians are never truly innocent 😉).

MAYBE when cishets harm lesbians we can mention it here and there because, well, cishets suck! They're so bad that sometimes they'll even be rude to lesbians, which is an outlier because lesbians aren't really oppressed anymore.

But when it's other LGBT people being VICIOUSLY lesbophobic...? 🦗 That doesn't happen! And if it does happen how dare you mention it as if it was the fault of others with the same identity! Especially since people of that identity group deserve to abuse lesbians As A Treat because lesbians are sooooooo bad! Anyways, these people are individuals we can't demonize them all (surely, that's what you intend to do, because you're a mean spirited lesbian) for the actions of some individuals! Even if it happens en masse over and over again!

yall act like it's so hard to be a woman and like men in this society i wish you'd all experience being a lesbian just one fucking day

honey have you ever thought that maybe the reason why lesbians dislike you isn't because you're into men but because you're an annoying ass fucking ballsack bitch lesbophobe cunt?

in this pride month I will murder a man

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Lesbians are not attracted to men. Trans men can not be lesbians. Being indifferent with harmful identities is still bad and just prove that only lesbians care about lesbians. Stop saying "everything is valid 🥰" just for everyone see how good person you are. You all just can't accept that some people doesnt give a shit about men. Being a lesbian is about loving women and not being attracted to men, not just a "preference" for women but you all are just too misogynists and can't accept that. And if you are even just indifferent with this bi lesbian shit i want to ask you to block me

the one person "terfsgetlost" or wtvr loooves only posting lesbians on their page and creating a space for people to harrass them and also thinks all lesbians are terfs for disliking men ?? i dont even think they know what a terf is

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yeah 💀

a little bit of help if you will? I'm having conflicting thoughts about two perspectives that both seem right to me yet don't match up. one would be your which is "words mean things and a lesbian is a women who likes women and not man end of discussion and we will gatekeep to defend our community because we already deal with to much shit" and "we only have one life too live and people are way to diverse to categorize them and we should just let them use what they want because at the end of the day the group of people that want us dead don't care how we label ourselves because they want us dead" i would appreciate your help in this problem.

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ok listen. I do agree that everyone should live their lives to the fullest without feeling the need to categorize themselves — that is, in an utopic world where queerphobia was never a thing in the first place. but it is. and, historically speaking, these apparently "restrictive" terms were hardly fought for by queer people from the past, because we needed to stand pridefully against the oppression thrown at us. and so these specific words have gained power and relevance inside lgbtq+ spaces over time. of course, however, some people don't feel embraced by any of these terms, which is fine: just don't label yourself! it's not an obligation! it is weird however to "mix" two deeply rooted terms into a bigger one that... well, already exists. specially if, in doing so, you are erasing the meaning of one of those labels completely, one that is already so marginalized and invisibilized. so no, I don't think, upon facing the extensiveness of queer history, that we should be free to make up new concepts that completely contradict others.

Do you ever see the most lesbophobic post ever and go to the notes expecting anyone. Someone. At least a single person pointing it out bc it's gross and weird and instead are just met with everyone thinking it's funny and laughing about it

I'm just so happy to have found your page. I love what you have to say about lesbianism & how you address lesbophobia. Like genuinely thank you for saying what needs to be said !!

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aww thank u. I'm just trying to stand up for our lesbian rights :)

honestly lesbians are better off just being around eachother lol. we're called bigoted for not being attracted to men we aren't allowed to talk about our specific experiences we aren't allowed to even rightfully claim "lesbian" as OUR word. these people dont like us. they make it clear that everyone, INCLUDING straight women and straight men, come before us. none of them like us none of them are normal about us. and we are expected to tolerate that in exchange for "community." its bullshit. we deserve better.

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