Been reading less and less of Noah Smith recently (credit to @wildgifthorses for being way ahead of me on this one), and the newfound hero worship of Modi is probably the last straw. Can't we have one political ideology that doesn't suck dictator cock? What if I hate Xi and Modi and Orbán? Am I just politically homeless?
st-just: being a boring socdem is still available?
That's what I thought Noah was, though: a progressive who understands enough economics to not endorse anything completely stupid. And his economic takes are basically still fine. But he's been completely brainkilled by Cold War 2.
he what now
I actually don't think I have seen this at all? I don't read every post or anything, but I am pretty sure I have seen "we ally with problematic leaders all the time, we aren't gonna Fix India, Modi is not the biggest problem on earth right now, and deepening ties has way more wins than losses". As he says:
There are three main Modi actions that have people concerned, and in my estimation all of them are worth worrying about. ...So yes, I’m certainly concerned about the direction India’s governance is taking under Modi, despite his reassurances. But does this mean I think the U.S. should avoid an alliance with India? Absolutely not.
And yeah, the Stalin/Churchill analogies were right on. Stalin was a world-historical monster and Churchill is typical-for-his-country but that country was an oppressive global empire, and the US was right to fully ally with them. That is just politics, China is a bigger threat than India is, making India richer is way better for individual Indians than any American protests could be, etc.
Certainly not saying you can't disagree with it, maybe Modi has more tail risk, maybe he isn't a reliable partner, etc etc. But framing Noah as a Modi apologist is something I am not seeing a case for.
ok I'm biased (chinese) but uh. is india the lesser evil here?
like yes they're a democracy whatever
but they're also. a much less effective government? like arguably they'd want less democracy, not more in india
and of course I'm not sure trying to back china into a wall is the best option for both counties
Yeah, I would say so! Obviously that's a function your vantage point, but India's democratic backsliding is compared to China's absolute authoritarianism and growing totalitarianism, its really not close. India doesn't have anything comparable to China's concentration camps in Xinjiang from the past decade - which is saying something, as India has a bunch of bad things! The fact that its really not close is actually incredible - in 2010 it was closer, China has dramatically worsened in the last decade.
But this is also the wrong perspective; the US is not gonna change China or India's domestic politics. Foreign policy is the land of, well, foreign policy, its about those decisions. And on this one, China is the country currently backing Russia's war in Ukraine while preparing for its own openly-stated massive-scale total invasion and annexation of a sovereign country. China repeatedly butts up against the existing international order, pushing to make it their own in ways that imo will benefit authoritarian states, increase the odds of wars, and reduce the welfare of common people. India meanwhile is, again, no saint, but way more willing to play ball, and the aim of deeper ties is to make them *more* more willing.
Don't take this as some "China is evil" thing, many of China's critiques of the system has validity, they aren't out to be bad guys, and China as a nation has many accomplishments. But the simple reality of the world they are pushing for is one with more war & repression, its the "result" of those aims. You want a broad coalition to mitigate that, people will be better off for that. Virtually any country on earth right now qualifies for that, particularly when by 'coalition' we mean 'free trade and increased security cooperation', no one is proposing pre-emptive strikes or even defense alliances.
I mean India has basically made 2 million of citizens stateless through an act of parliament, has built detention centres and is trying to implement a National Population Register that will single out vulnerable minorities like Muslims- so there is that.
Arguably India’s slide into Fascism is kind of worse and more dangerous because it has democratic support and a broad popular social constituency unlike the CCP















