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@katy-133 / katy-133.tumblr.com

I'm a Canadian children's show animator who likes reading and drawing in her spare time. I've made video games you can play. Creator of Dear Devere and Last Meal at Cafe Mori, among others. I draw and post art here. I also write the occasional academic anaylsis. Cheerful hermit. She/Her. See sidebar buttons for links to my past projects.

Rick Prime Theories: A Masterpost

A masterpost of theories relating to Rick Prime from Rick and Morty.

I'll update the OP of this masterpost with links to other posts as season 7 approaches. Feel free to add to this.

C-137/Prime as Backstory:

Backstories:

  • [x]-Rick C-137 and Prime were in a relationship before the events of the story. Rick choosing his family over Prime is what led to Prime killing Rick's family, kickstarting the beginning of the entire show.
  • -The fake season 3 backstory and season 6's flashback don't line up, revealing which parts of the season 3 backstory were "made up" by Rick to trick the Galactic Federation, and which were real.
  • -Prime is a time traveller, or lied about being a time traveller to manipulate C-137.
  • -Prime started a Rick cult that eventually became the Citadel of Ricks.
  • -Verbal evidence ("They kill your family", "Ricks don't pass on this").
  • -Parallels between C-137/Prime, C-137/Birdperson, and Beth/Space Beth.
  • [x]-Additional Birdrick and C-137/Prime parallel.
  • [x]-How the show handles foreshadowing using a specific pattern of denying and then later confirming continuity, and how this could be foreshadowing a C-137/Prime backstory.
  • [x]-The series repeatedly uses the "lovers to enemies" trope with Rick, and Rick Prime is yet another example of this.

Parallels and Dialogue:

  • [x]-Parallels between C-127/Prime, C-137/Mr Nimbus, and Crowscare.
  • -Verbal evidence ("Forgetting the ice cream", "The only person we like", "He's the real deal").
  • [x]-Verbal evidence ("Well, we'll see how long that lasts").
  • [x]-Space Beth: "You'd know, old man".
  • [x]-Call Me By Your Name film parallel.
  • [x]-Rick cheated on Diane. ("Leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. I did it.")
  • -Diane and Rick had an unstable relationship, possibly even before Prime entered the picture.
  • [x]-Diane and Rick had an unhealthy relationship wherein Rick cheated on her, and Diane used kid!Beth as a barrier against him to prevent communication that would have helped stabilise their marriage.
  • [x]-Young Rick's wedding ring.

Music Theory:

  • [x]-Prime's leitmotif is a variation of Dies Irae, which historically symbolises death, villainy, judgement, and obsessive love.
  • -Prime's leitmotif is a darker remix of Rick and Morty's opening theme song.

Prime's Ultimate Plan:

Finding Morty:

  • [x]-Prime's plan is to find Morty, to hurt C-137 in revenge for rejecting him.
  • -Prime will kidnap Morty by pretending to be C-137.
  • -The serum Rick drank in the Unity episode "syncs" the drinker with every dimensional version of themselves.
  • -Prime will use the serum on Morty to kill every version of him.
  • -Rick will (try to) use the serum to defeat every version of Prime.
  • [x]-Colour theory: Pink = time manipulation, while orange = syncing between others. Further evidence that Prime knows how to make the syncing serum from the Unity episode.
  • [x]-Rick Prime will use the serum to sync up himself with Morty. Rick will need to choose between revenge and family.
  • [x]-Prime doesn't know Morty is his dimensional grandson.

Keyser Söze Parallel:

  • [x]-Keyser Söze reference and parallels with Prime.
  • -Portal 2 reference and Prime's knowledge of popculture.

Prime's Portal Gun:

  • [x]-C-137 owns Prime's unique-looking portal gun because they knew each other for a while.
  • [x]-Prime has different portal gun designs between different hologram memories and flashbacks, implying that Prime visited Rick multiple times.
  • [x]-Rick C-137 was the one who designed the Prototype portal gun, and let Prime borrow it.

Portal Travel:

  • [x]-Prime lost the ability to portal travel.
  • [x]-Prime's holster is different between seasons, indicating that he doesn't use it for his portal gun anymore.
  • [x]-Prime and C-137 had already invented portal travel together. Prime proposed the idea of the Citadel, which C-137 rejected. Rick C-137, while pursing Prime, discovered the concept of Mortys before going to Prime's dimension.
  • [x]-Prime had opened a rift (similar to Evil Morty) to escape the Central Finite Curve.

The Bomb:

  • [x], [x]-The bomb that killed Diane and Beth was meant for Rick C-137, not his family.
  • [x], [x]-The bomb was intended for Prime, not Rick or Rick's family.
  • -Prime didn't drop the bomb that killed Diane and Beth.
  • -C-137's revenge quest was due to a critical misunderstanding of who dropped the bomb.
  • [x]-Unknowingly, C-137 himself caused the bomb to drop and killed his family, due to time travel that will happen in the future.
  • [x]-Prime doesn't even know who Rick C-137 is.
  • [x]-Beth and Diane were blown back/forward in time, becoming unreachable to Rick.
  • [x]-The bomb was meant to only destroy Rick's equipment, and not kill anyone. (NEWEST ADDITION)

Neutrino Bomb:

  • [x]-Rick tried to destroy the Earth in Prime's dimension in episode 1 out of revenge and Morty disarmed the neutrino bomb when Rick blacked out.

Prime Existing in Multiple Places at Once:

The Multiverse and Clones:

  • [x]-Prime uses the multiverse outside of the Curve to find other versions of himself.
  • -Prime uses clones of himself.
  • -The "clone" in Prime's lair was actually him because we see the escape pod later when Prime meets Jerry.
  • -Prime lied about the message being pre-recorded, as his eyes follow Rick during the fight scene in his lair.
  • [x]-The Central Finite Curve is a cage built to keep Prime contained.
  • [x]-Prime was the very first Rick clone of a memory from C-137, or another Rick who travelled back in time.

Time Crystals and Time Travel:

  • [x]-Prime uses time crystals (crystallised xanthenite) to manipulate time.
  • -Prime is associated with the colour pink because xanthenite is pink.
  • -The Central Finite Curve was built to keep Prime fenced in or out.
  • [x]-Rick Prime was actually offering Rick time travel, not inter-dimensional travel.

Cross-Temporal Asteroids:

  • [x]-Prime uses cross-temporal asteroids similar to the Jerryboree to evade people.
  • [x]-Prime is possibly the Rick responsible for creating the Jerryboree.

Prime's Immortality/Lack of Ageing:

Past Episode Foreshadowing:

  • [x]-Prime's immortality/healing ability comes from the fate creature from the fortune cookie episode.
  • -Prime is using the technology from the Whirly Dirly's immortality field.
  • -Prime figured out how to perfect Operation Phoenix to stay the same age.
  • [x]-Prime got the fortune cookies because the pink portal that opened in Final DeSmithation was a wormhole that sent the cookies through space and time.

Misc Category:

Visual Design:

  • [x], [x]-Prime's robot designs and lair, and how they show Prime is a version of Rick that hasn't grown up.
  • [x]-The vision Jerry had while "merging with [Rick's] essence" foreshadowed Prime killing Arc Jerry. The vision's images will continue to foreshadow events that will happen in future seasons.

Pocket Mortys Game:

  • [x]-Prime can be found in the game Pocket Mortys as a playable character. He is named "Weird Rick."
  • -He costs the highest amount of coupons to unlock, implying that he is a major series character.

Characterisation:

  • [x]-Prime is the reason why Rick feels that he needs to always be the smartest person in the room.
  • [x]-Prime values being unique and fears not being the most outstanding Rick in the Universe.
  • [x], [x]-Rick in season 3 was trying to act like Rick Prime to emotionally numb himself, it didn't work, leading to his character development in seasons 5 and 6.
  • [x]-Rick Prime's influence is, in part, the reason Morty is "the Mortiest Morty" and why Rick fears Morty becoming more aggressive or overpowering him.

gonna complain about the fandom and sniper real quick.

everyone always portrays sniper as a cool animal guy who's a little edgy and a lotta antisocial (which i'm not saying is wrong) but they always leave out his high-pitched panicked side.

i find this is most prevalent in dubs and impressions. they try to make him sound cool and low-key but sniper HAS SO MUCH EMOTION IN HIS VOICE. HES AN EMOTIONAL PERSON. GRAH

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I also really like that he's on speaking terms with his parents and regularly calls them and wants their approval. Let Sniper be a softie as well.

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Enjoy this sketchy “Scout & Spy try to bond as family” comic I made inspired by a couple of Anonymous requests I got:

I like the idea of Scout being into skateboarding, since that’s a thing that was taking off in youth culture around the TF2 era. Also, apparently my favorite way to end these comics is with blood and violent faceplants.

I’ll be starting work on this round’s final request drawing on my stream this afternoon at 4pm Central!

If you catch Spy at the end of the lesson, you can see something entirely different: Pride. You see this again when Scout says he’ll do it himself. As Scout says “myself” he can’t quite keep himself from smiling.

Spy knows him comrades more intimately than perhaps any other mercenary. He’s had to study them, until he can mimic their every phrase and movement. And as we’ve seen in Meet The Spy, he’s a master at his craft.

When he insults Scout, when he says Scout can’t do it, you can see the cracks in his facade. You can see every insult was made not merely out of spite, but to get Scout on his own feet, and on his date himself without looking to Spy for guidance and for someone else’s romance to woo her with.

And even when his job is technically over, he’s still watching over Scout, leading and guiding him with a firm hand.

It isn’t merely manipulation and disguise which he uses it for. Expiration Date shows him willing to spend his entire last days helping his teammates, even if that teammate drew pornography of him involving public monuments.

As much as Spy would like us to believe him heartless, the truth shows through.

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My Spydad Headcanon

  • Was young and inexperienced when he met Scout’s mom, and she was an “older woman” to him, teaching him a lot of life lessons. He’s not a sentimental guy, but she’s always stuck in his mind because of that.
  • Initially maintained his relationship with Scout’s mom as part of his cover but got emotionally involved because he didn’t know well enough not to. He’s had affairs as part of his work in the time since but has become an expert in compartmentalizing his emotions. Spy’s a professional and doesn’t want to be sloppy like he was that first time out.
  • Didn’t initially know about her seven (at the time) children but was in too deep by the time he found out. Oh, and she has a possessive estranged husband, too, and oh god what’s happening.
  • First dealt with the husband by scaring the shit out of him, enough to make him agree to let Scout’s mom divorce him without a fight and even correct his behavior, for a while. He would’ve been content to let it go at that, but…
  • When the now ex-husband eventually came sniffing back around, Scout’s mom was heavily pregnant, and Spy wasn’t feeling charitable. He killed him in the ex-husband’s apartment and made it look like an accident. He never told Scout’s mom about this. She has her suspicions but thinks it’s actually kind of romantic. Spy has no idea she suspects, convinced he managed the perfect crime. Wrapped up in his espionage mentality, it’s easy for him to forget how perceptive she is.
  • Didn’t voluntarily leave Scout and his mom but also didn’t fight to stay with them when the organization he worked for found out about the mess he’d made and reassigned him elsewhere. He promised to stay in touch and actually did, unknown to Scout, including regular monetary gifts as informal child support.
  • Didn’t want Scout to know about him growing up so that he wouldn’t get caught up in the world Spy operated in. (He regrets that in retrospect.) He also just had no idea how to be a father and didn’t want to risk being terrible at it. Spy is his job, leaving no room to play happy families.
  • Did make the time to check up on Scout when he was in the area, taking care that he was never noticed. He’s sat in on more than a few pee-wee baseball games.