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SaNa is enhanced by Toei? Filler vs manga and a shipping narrative + SaNa in new arcs and Nami's feelings

Sorry for the long title, but I decided to answer two asks in one post since they are in the same ask... And I also wanted the topics to be clear. Anyways, let's get to it because this will be a rather long one. :)

Hi @trompas-kun :) Thank you so much for liking my blog and my "Why SaNa over other ships" post. I apologize for it taking me so long to answer, but I kind of wrote more than I planned, and then I got sick for 3 weeks. I’m so sorry. T-T I hope it will be worth the wait.

I also want to say thank you for your questions! I find them very interesting, though I first hesitated to answer the first one due to the SaNa vs Lu/Na nature of it. But considering I still get random hate from Lu/Na shippers despite being fairly civil I suppose it doesn’t matter what I do. Besides, this is my view on the whole thing and I think it’s important to maybe add a counter to it since this concept of Toei being pro or anti various ships seem to have spread more and more the last couple of years, basically all of it coming from the Lu/Na shippers. Sadly the Sa/Na fandom doesn’t have as strong a voice as the Lu/Na one so this might go unnoticed to most, but I hope this view of Toei having their own secret agendas can die down at least a little as time passes.

Regarding Toei adding or changing things, they do it all the time to all kinds of moments. I personally think that the “Toei enhances Sana but downplays Lu/Na” is an exaggerated discourse that has spread because the Lu/Na shippers read the same analysis and spread some examples and trust it blindly instead of actually watching the anime and reading the manga with unbiased eyes. Not to mention when you have a bias you tend to notice “negative things” or things that go against your belief more. So because of this negativity bias and it being spread and talked about it has become “accepted” in the Lu/Na fandom that SaNa being pushed by Toei (at the expense of Lu/Na) is how it is. And because the Lu/Na fandom is loud and big it spreads even outside of their echo chamber to some degree, but from what I have seen this is mostly something that Lu/Na shippers claim and talk about and not the general fandom. So to begin with I wouldn’t say it’s “people saying” this, but rather fans that are Lu/Na shippers or anti Sa/Na.

I think it’s very convenient how the Lu/Na shippers ignore when the Toei makes things that highlight Nami and Luffy’s bond but say they favor Sa/Na when the truth is that Toei adds a lot in all kinds of moments, to fill out and make the anime longer than the manga. We for example have the whole Nebulandia thing which they praised to no end when it came out.

Not to mention in the WCI arc (around when this whole discorse started to spread) where they added a full moment of Nami going to Luffy and crying first after his fight with Sanji, though in the manga she goes directly to Sanji and has no interaction with Luffy until he wakes up again.

But I suppose Toei’s added moments are only “good” when it benefits them. For example how they love Nami wearing Luffy’s hat in Skypiea despite it being filler. She carries it in the manga, but she doesn’t wear it. It’s a small change, but one could call it “pandering” since Lu/Na shippers love to bring up Nami wearing his hat.

I could say in the same arc Sa/Na is “downplayed” by Toei making Sanji give flowers to both Nami and Robin when he only is shown wanting to give one to Nami in the manga. Of course over such a long show you can find various examples both for or against most ships being favored or “downplayed”. I do think these small changes can in some cases change an anime only watcher’s view, but most of the time it’s not really any huge changes that are being made.

They also forget that many of the “negative” Sa/Na moments are enhanced in the anime for gag purposes, something that makes many see Sa/Na in a worse way than they are portrayed in the manga. (Actually gags in general seems to get kind of overused in the anime.) For example showing Nami having to physically stop Sanji at times.

Sometimes Toei adds things that, though small, might change how the watchers view the characters but in no way do I think they are doing this to push one particular ship over another. I think this view that Toei pushes SaNa has more to do with recency bias and negativity bias in the shippers that don't like SaNa. They focus on only what they consider bad for their own ship, especially after having this theory being presented to them, and make it into a bigger thing that it likely is. Then they more easily remember these examples rather than things that in contrast might be “bad” for Sa/Na as a ship.

I’ve spoken about Sa/Na and fillers before in Hidden SaNami - Manga and filler, and I am not going to lie and say we don’t get really good fillers at times. But I am also of the belief that what Toei does is add things mostly based on what they think fits. And it just so happens that Sanji is very much specifically attached to Nami and their dynamic works well both for gags and in some cases even “romantic looking scenarios” when there is real drama going on. The writers at Toei see that and so they fill out scenes that already exist or create new ones that are in their opinion in character for the strawhats. For example, they know Sanji is a heart-eyed pervert, and so they added more moments for him with the mermaids in Fishman Island as an example. During WCI he had a romance focused storyline and thus they also added moments between Sanji and Purin that were not in the manga.

Sanji saving her from falling and San/Pu holding hands is one example of something that never happened, which to me clearly shows it’s more about adding what they think they can in regards to the characters and the current story, rather than having some secret agenda for certain ships.

Another San/Pu example is this tiny panel where Sanji is carrying her being zoomed in and changed to a bridial carry. It happens to many ships and moments so the "Toei loves SaNa" simply isn't true in my opinion.

Pandering to ships happens in most anime, and even Sanji x Zoro has gotten some rather obviously shippy moments. But the Lu/Na shippers don’t focus on or care about these other things, because Sa/Na (and to some extent Lu/Han) is their main target.

What I think Lu/Na fans might have a hard time accepting is that Luffy and Nami don't have a relationship where you can add shippy types of moments as easily. Not that it hasn’t happened, just look at the Nebulandia special again. But Luffy in particular is simply ill-fitted for shippy moments. For Hancock they added a “shippy scene” with Luffy but that was of course a dream and a gag, because it would be weird to see Luffy act like that towards anyone. The whole joke is that it’s out of character for Luffy.

Toei saw a chance to be funny and took it. Similarly we have seen Sanji “dream” of having a child with Nami in filler, which is also more in line with Sanji but would be really weird to see coming from Nami.

From what I recall this whole idea of Toei being pro Sa/Na was born in the Lu/Na fandom after the Zou scene with Nami running after Sanji. Then they just looked for older moments to add to their already decided hypothesis that Toei is biased (while still being happy about whatever added Lu/Na moment Toei has made and saying things like “they got it right this time”). 

Granted that scene between SaNa in Zou is very dramatic and even slightly romantic looking, but Nami during all of Zou was very much highlighted as the most worried about Sanji in the manga. Thus Toei likely took the chance to add this scene. Likewise Nami was hurt by Sanji in WCI and thus they added the corridor walk scene (which I’ve seen anti Sa/Na people use as an example of Nami hating Sanji by the way). It’s extra drama added based on similar previous moments and the feelings they expressed in the manga.

There is actually a particular post from a Lu/Na shipper that I suspect made this viewpoint more widespread through their community, and in that post they even use Sa/Na examples that aren’t correct. For example, they claim that Nami’s reaction in the moment in Skypiea when Sanji saves Nami and Usopp is exaggerated in the anime. (And that Toei stole/copied the moment from a Lu/Na scene). Let me just show you a piece of that post here.

But, it isn’t really the way this post describes it. They excluded some manga panels in their “analysis” post, making the change seem more dramatic than it was.

Maybe they read this very incorrect old translation and trusted it? (Personally I don’t understand how this translation could happen to begin with.)

I don’t know, but Nami is saying exactly the same thing she did in the anime, asking why Usopp is accelerating and mentioning Sanji before Usopp interrupt her. The scene is longer than the small panel, but that is literally the purpose of making an anime based of a manga. But the dialogue is the same in the manga and the anime, and thus the whole point of the anime changing this "move or be toasted" moment to be more pro SaNa is simply false.

I remember seeing this post when it was new, and admittedly I have not checked all comparisons and I am sure some are legit changes/filler additions, but the Skypiea moment in particular made me annoyed because I know they described it incorrectly and it’s a moment from the manga that I really like, where Nami is showing a lot of concern for Sanji. I won’t share the link or full original post, because I don’t want people to go there and comment and make a fuss, but I also wanted to mention it as I do think it has affected the Lu/Na shippers view a lot.

More than anything though I think that Lu/Na shippers forget how many Sanji x Nami moments Oda himself has written in the manga. Then they use the fillers as an excuse or even anti-SaNa propaganda to lift their own ship and downplay SaNa. This is the perhaps radical opinion I have about it at least, because honestly when going through a manga that is 1000+ chapters and adding filler moments to that you can probably find a lot of inconsistencies that align with whatever agenda you try to push. You just have to use the right angle and ignore examples that might go against your point. (Which the Lu/Na fandom clearly has done) "It's Toei's fault SaNa looks like a good ship to some" is such a weird rhetoric to have considering how many great SaNa moments there are in the manga.

For me Sa/Na in the manga is a good ship that has had a lot of great moments. I feel like Lu/Na shippers tend to ignore or downplay how much Oda has given Sanji and Nami time to have their own relationship development and that Sa/Na is far from a shallow gag ship that’s promoted by Toei as some of them try to claim. Luffy himself said in WCI to Sanji that “Nami and the others worried about you more than anyone” and Nami and Sanji had their own storylines with serious interactions in many arcs despite Sanji not being the main hero.

In the end, maybe Toei’s image of the manga and the characters simply doesn’t fit with what the Lu/Na shippers want it to be? Maybe they have read too much into things that don't really suggest what they want it to? And then consequently get angry when other pairs get more shippy moments than their own.

Also, in general I find the filler excuse kind of funny, because they imply that Oda has no influence over the anime whatsoever and that Toei animation are the bad guys going against his will on purpose. Yet Toei also makes the movies, and some of those are extremely well-received, praised and used as “proof” amongst the Lu/Na fandom. So the movies are just this big exception when Toei does what Oda actually wants, while when it comes to the canon story being adapted they totally ignore Oda’s wishes and story? I very much doubt it. It’s simply Lu/Na shippers needing a villain for why things don’t look the way they want in the added anime moments, which are supposed to be extended filler based on the manga material and characters’ personalities. Of course they might not get it all right when making the anime, but I very much doubt they are adding things for some targeted reason towards shippers. (Though, again, pandering does exist to some extent where it might work in line with the characters).

In my opinion there are fillers added that are both positive and negative in regards to most fans’ views of the characters. But they are there to fill gaps, and to prolong the anime. Some are extensions of scenes Oda wrote, others are complete AU’s like the Edo Historical Special fillers. But it’s still going to be based on how the writers, producers and directors have interpreted the characters in the manga. Often that will mean things like more exaggerated gags or rehashed stories with new filler characters or the existing scenes getting more “flare”. 

Of course at times the anime does very stupid additions that doesn’t always make sense, but even so the manga is still their source material. Though of course they only know what already is and not what Oda is planning to write. Hence we can sometimes see things lean more into what is going on in the current arc sometimes. Like in the 3rd movie when Sanji says he wants to be a prince, likely because of his Mr. Prince portrayal in Alabasta happening close to the movie being made, despite this clearly going against canon now years later when we know he is a prince and doesn’t like his heritage at all.

If Lu/Na shippers say Toei adds more shippy moments for SaNa than Lu/Na then it’s likely because Toei thinks it’s more in line with Sanji and Nami as characters compared to with Luffy. In the end though, filler is filler, and what Oda writes is what truly matters.

Personally I think the portrayal of Sanji and Nami is better in the manga compared to the anime (as most things) and never has filler been a reason for me personally to ship them or think they could become canon. It’s simply added moments, sometimes they are nice and other times not so nice. I know many other SaNa shippers are the same. I wanted to say this because too many times I see anti SaNa fans say those that ship them together must not read the manga. Trust me, we do.

But who knows, maybe I am the salty and biased one and Toei is actually pro Sa/Na against the will of Oda.

As for your second question I touched on it veeeery briefly in THIS POST speaking a little about SaNa in Wano. But I must admit this question is a lot more difficult to me than the first one. Especially since you ask about Nami’s feelings manifesting in particular and also asking for a prediction. 

Honestly I don’t think we have gotten anything major from Nami herself except her worry and involvement in Sanji’s story during Zou and WCI. We got a few moments in Wano as well, like Sanji carrying her again, protecting her and of course the “Take care of my Nami-san” line. For me it’s the possible changes in Oda’s writing of Sanji and Nami and some of Sanji’s interactions and reactions to Nami that makes me think feelings from Nami’s side might be slowly developed and could appear in some form further ahead.

I know you said “recent arcs” but I hope you will allow me to go back a bit to other arcs as well to explain what I mean.

In my opinion I don’t think it’s impossible that Oda has escalated Sanji and Nami’s interactions and highlighted their interest and worry of each other for a long time now. Of course it’s always been there, even back in Arlong Park, Drum Island, Skypiea and of course Enies Lobby and Thriller Bark. Often Oda has paired the two together or at least made one chase or help the other. As Oda once put it, after he draws Nami it’s simply natural that Sanji follows (Watch video at 46.40). And this might be partly a joke, but we also know it’s true and we have many good interactions between them in most arcs.

What I think is that during Fishman Island, Punk Hazard and Dressarosa Oda started the more obvious set up with Sanji for Whole Cake Island and what was to come with his family and backstory. What Oda did before WCI with Sanji was to set up and remind the readers of four things in particular; his kindness, his doubt in his value to the crew as more than a chef (as part of his sacrificial nature), his chivalry and lastly even his character's “chance” for romance. I think Oda brought back these things to remind us clearly who Sanji is and what he is about before his fate during Zou and WCI was revealed. The fact that Oda has used Sanji in two romantic plots with first Viola and then Purin and with both of them ending up liking him despite their initial goal and them turning to the aid of the strawhats because of him says a lot on its own.

So why does this matter for the development of SaNa? Well, first of all Sanji was clearly seen leaving both these women behind for Nami in particular. We even saw Purin’s reaction to SaNa specifically. Of course one could say it’s simply to foreshadow Purin liking Sanji and it being read as jealousy, but in the end it’s still Oda drawing Sanji with Nami happily in his arms after everything they have been through.

I’ve said it before but I don’t think Oda keeps making moments like this at random. Nami has been there in several pivotal moments for Sanji, and she and Sanji have in many instances been placed together to add to the other’s story or highlight the other’s character traits. For many of the plot set-ups with Sanji prior to WCI Nami was there to explain or show it to us readers.

For example saying Yonji is nothing like Sanji or through her doubting the Sanji clone is really him due to him not helping them.

Other characters also mention often how kind Sanji is and honestly I think people need to remember that this is a trait Oda sees in Sanji and keeps mentioning. I say this because in the WCI arc in particular Oda portrays Sanji as a good potential love interest and a very good person in general. A lot of anti-SaNa fans seem to think Nami sees no positive traits in Sanji, despite Oda writing Nami saying good things as direct opinions from her that she has about Sanji. Clearly she sees a lot of good in him despite his flaws and Oda had her point it out clearly.

We also know Sanji has risked or straight out sacrificed himself for Nami many times, but she has most times not seen it or even known about it. Of course she cares about her nakama and Nami has been used in this way before (and with other crewmembers as well), but even so I think Oda’s focus on Nami in particular is there to clearly show us her image of him before everything unfolds in the Zou and WCI arcs after. He is someone she can trust and depend on, a savior and protector, and she doesn’t want to see him get hurt.

We even got Nami coming out of hiding in Zou because she was worried. Not to mention she willingly goes to a Yonkou territory for Sanji’s sake, and actually she is insisting on following despite being told no at first. She also defends Sanji against Zoro and gets offened on his behalf and is in general the main driving force behind going to save Sanji.

Another rather subtle change from Oda (though noticable amongst SaNa shippers for sure) is the increased amount in touching between Sanji and Nami. Something that has been seen through several cases in WCI, and that continued on to Wano as well though most of it was Sanji carrying many people at the same time.

I also think WCI could have been a turning point for Nami’s feelings even though she isn’t showing it openly yet. Maybe she will keep being tsundere about it until the end, or maybe she isn’t really aware of her own feelings herself yet. I could also be reading things wrong. But I don’t think we should underestimate Oda adding one sign of Sanji seeing mutual affection, one joke about a proposal and a possessive claim of Nami being “his”. Because Oda likely won’t write something like this for no reason, and though two of them are hidden behind gags, it’s a change compared to earlier moments that are similar. 

I am actually writing a small theory on this and how Sanji might sense Nami’s feelings slowly changing for him through his observation haki. I would love to talk about it more because I think this could be Oda’s way of changing things very slowly without making it obvious, but I kinda think it needs a post of its own.

I think that either Oda will keep adding these small types of moments but not really commit to making anything official until the very end, or if we are lucky, he will write more to build on the conflict in WCI and what Nami knows about Sanji to add some bigger moments between them. But I doubt any of it will be any type of confirmed relationship as I don’t think Oda will want to change the strawhat dynamics until the series is ending.

(Though Purin coming back is also likely happening and I think that is definitely going to show us if Oda has intentions for San/Pu to develop to something more or not.)

Anyways, to sum it up I think Oda’s way of writing SaNa and adding more touch and things like that between them is a sign for SaNa to possibly happen further ahead. But I think Nami is still either tsundere or maybe even unaware of her feelings, and Sanji is sensing them but letting things stay the way they are. I think Oda might be stalling so he doesn't have to write actual romance or change their interactions too much. Does that make sense? So Nami’s feelings are right now mostly manifesting through Sanji sensing them change slowly, basically. Hence comments like “My Nami-san” only happening in Wano despite Sanji being the way he is since the very beginning. At the very least Oda has definitely given SaNa a lot of great looking moments in the New World and I hope he will keep it up.

I could probably go into more details or examples, but I hope I kind of answered your question at least. I know I wrote a lot more about the first topic, but like I said that was a lot easier and more straightforward.

I hope this was all an interesting read for you. Either way I want to say thanks for asking it though, because I had a lot of fun writing this.

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sanji's similarities to sabo and puddings possible death

its been noted that sanj has similarities to sabo as well as their situation and they both first appeared as solely martial  artists and later developed a fire ability  ( diable jambe ,   sabo has a fire fruit  ) sabo  uses a style named the dragon claw fist (ryusoken ) which focuses on the hands        and sanjis style focuses on the feet to avoid injuring the hands    and they both learnt their respective martial art styles from the man who invented it who also saved their lives ( zeff and dragon respectively)  onepiece . wikia . com/wiki/Ryusoken

some posts comparing sabo and sanji everyone should read it :

orojackson . com/threads/the-thoughts-of-the-elite-sanjis-vs-sabos-predicament . 29254/

This a merely a short analysis, if you will, that came upon me suddenly through the introduction of the Vinsmoke Family and their interactions with Sanji. Throughout their introduction, I was getting mad “Sabo’s Childhood” vibes and the pieces clicked into place upon the release of Manga Chapter 833 (and 834, to an extent). Now, to be clear, before I go pointing out similarities and the like, I am not in any way implying that the two are in identical situations. Their circumstances are different, family structure and strength are different, and even the characters ages at the time are different! I just noticed a similarity in their circumstances. ~————————————————————————————————————————————————————–~ Now…let’s get to the main topic of this analysis!Introducing two of our favorite blonde, runaway nobles: Sabo and Sanji!!

Besides the obvious fact that both Sabo and Sanji are runaways and greatly dislike (and even renounce) their families

-Their families are rather similar in their mindset and ultimate goals (which, admittedly, are a common trait in snobbish nobles within the One Piece world). The similarity in the two’s situation will be explained in each section below. Family Goals & Motivations· Both families have a similar goal: To gain power and glorify the family name. The Vinsmoke Family wish to take over North Blue, hence the alliance with Big Mom, and Sabo’s family yearn to advance their social standing, which in turn, grants them further influence and power. If their offspring bring “shame” to the family, then they are obviously useless to the family.

In Sabo’s case, while his blood kin thought him a disgrace, his father’s solution was to trap him in the family home and try and force his ideas on him. While similar to Sanji’s father (from what we’ve seen so far), the difference is that Sabo’s father saw worth in getting Sabo back BECAUSE he was related by blood. Now Outlook III (Sabo’s father) HAD of course adopted another child as a backup, but in Vinsmoke Judge’s case, Sanji WAS the backup (despite sharing bonds by blood).

Might I also mention that both had jerks as siblings (and, by siblings, I mean siblings that are a part of their ‘blood’ family)? Family Ideas or the “Noble Privilege” · Peasants are nothing but trash. They’re meant to be used or discarded, nothing else. Part of the reason both Sanji and Sabo were seen as a disgrace was through their association with ‘commoners’ or their participation in ‘commoner activities,’ such as cooking. Both families saw them as inferior and therefore, the tendencies of both Sabo and Sanji disgust them.

On the flip side, that blatant disregard for other people is a big part of why both sons hate their families so much. They see such attitudes as inhumane and as adults, both work against it in their own way. Sanji doesn’t let anyone go hungry and Sabo works as a revolutionary. Family Method to Power · Both families also employ an identical method in order to cement their power: Marrying off their son.

One main difference between the two, of course, were the ages of Sabo and Sanji respectively when the plan was formed. To Sabo’s parents, his fate since birth was to marry royalty to cement a higher standing for their noble family. And for Vinsmoke Judge, who was already royalty, he (seemingly) brought Sanji back for that purpose as well (marrying into a Yonko’s family = instant power). Essentially, both families brought back their blood heirs simply for the sake of marrying them off in an attempt to permanently elevate their standing. Both were completely fine with the idea of sacrificing their “useless” or “disgraceful” son for power. I thought it a curious similarity. Of course, the method makes sense as bluebloods marrying bluebloods was the norm for nobles in the past. Either way, neither of these two characters want that fate and I can’t much blame ‘em. Arranged marriages, bleck. · Both families have their heirs’ return through threatening the safety of their loved ones. This point is self-explanatory really, but the ONLY reason Sabo and Sanji returned semi-willingly to their blood kin was to protect their nakama.

That’s some low tactics there. Low, but effective. Final Tid-bit · Tenryuubito influence much? Just an observation, but am I the only one who finds the fact that both Sanji’s and Sabo’s dreams were threatened by Tenryuubito influence interesting? Both directly and indirectly, the Celestial Dragon’s managed to prevent the two’s freedom. In Sabo’s case, he set sail early to fulfil his dream and gain freedom from his parents, but a Celestial Dragon (literally) blasted that plan to bits. And in Sanji’s case, the explosive wristlets that his father had put on him keep him from attempting to escape because the detonation would destroy his hands. And if a chef has no hands…well, cooking is no longer an option. If Sanji can’t cook, then finding All Blue would be pointless and he’d no longer be able to feed the hungry or his crew. Effectively destroying his dream and “job” on the Straw Hats crew.

orojackson . com/one-piece-th…y-nobles-and-the-girls-with-a-fishy-past . 154/

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sanji 

Mostly seen wearing formal clothing, i.e. dress shirts, suits, ties etc.

- Official colour is Blue. - Blond. - Covers one eye. - Like to hang around with an orange-haired girl. - Comes from a ‘royal’ family. - Ran away from family at a young age. - Said family wants to get him married against his will. - The marriage is solely for political means. - Would rather marry orange-haired girl. (JK maybe, maybe not..I’m hoping he does lol!) - Is the 'third’ son in his family, and part of minter-trio. - Has fire powers. (Diable Jambe) - Lead by a member of the Monkey D. family. (Luffy). - Went back to family just for the sake of protecting nakama! (Nami, Chopper and Brook) Sabo: - Mostly seen wearing formal clothing, i.e. dress shirts, coats, gloves, hat etc. - No official colour, but is always seen wearing blue. - Blond. - Scar covering one eye. - Likes to hang around with an orange-haired girl. - Comes from a 'Noble’ family. - Ran away from family at a young age. - Said Family wanted to get him married against his will. - The marriage was solely for political means. - Would will rather marry orange-haired girl. (JK again, but we all know its gonna happen! @Divvens ) - Is part of the ASL 'trio’. - Has fire powers. (Mera Mera no mi) - Lead by a member of the Monkey D family. (Dragon) - Went back to family just for the sake of protecting nakama! (Ace and Luffy)

orojackson .  com/threads/sanjis-situation-is-similar-to-someone . 33851/

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While this doesn’t DIRECTLY deal with the family itself, but rather the status- I felt that with the release of Manga Chapter 837, this was an interesting comparison to add to the post. xD Thanks for the incentive to tack on more information Chap. 837! (The reason why this was added to the thread is self-explanatory from the dialogue and reaction from Luffy respectively)

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onepiece . wikia . com/wiki/Sabo

  • Sabo is similar to Sanji as…
  • Both were born into royal families and hated their royal status.
  • Both escaped their life of royalty and ended up having a preferred life (A revolutionary for Sabo, a cook for the Baratie and the Straw Hat Pirates for Sanji).
  • Both their fathers saw them as disappointments.
  • Both were forced to marry a woman of their parents choosing.
  • Both hated their siblings.
  • Both returned back to their royal status to prevent their loved ones from getting killed and were threatened by their fathers if they did not cooperate (Luffy and Ace for Sabo, Zeff for Sanji).
  • Both had something destroyed by their fathers when they were young (The drawing Sabo had made for his father, the food Sanji prepared for a mouse).
  • Both had pirates involved in their return to their royal status (The Bluejam Pirates for Sabo, the Big Mom Pirates for Sanji).
  • Both were locked up by their fathers for showing disgrace.

and there is a comparison between judge and bluejam

both of them were promised something by a powerful ruler  bluejam a king promising becoming  noble  judge promising an alliance  with a yonko and for the yonko is a queen but turns out the ruler they had their hopes in were pulling one over on them and never planned on keeping their word/planning to kill them and take what they want/ let them die doing his dirty work ( bluejam)

except this time the king was betrayed by the pirate

edit : as @genomynt said in their reblog to my post  genomynt . tumblr . com/post/177504958587/sanjis-similaritys-to-sabo

Plus, their straight ships with Nami and Koala had contrasting parallels to each other:

  • While Nami was forced to join Arlong’s crew against her will, Koala only traveled with the Sun Pirates because they were asked to take her.
  • While both were forced to wear their crew’s mark, Koala’s “mark of the sun” was put on to replace another mark. Nami’s Arlong tattoo was removed and replaced with a tattoo of her own design.
  • When Koala joined the Sun Pirates, she was finally allowed to cry, whereas with Nami, after she was forced to join Arlong she refused to cry.
  • Koala was never forced to do any work as she was freed from slavery. Nami was forced to draw maps and act as a slave to Arlong.
  • Koala’s time in the crew was only meant to be temporary while Arlong intended to keep Nami in the crew forever.
  • In Koala’s case, her hometown exchanged her freedom with the Marines for the lives of the fishmen. In the case of Nami’s hometown, they fought against the fishmen for their freedom after the Marines betrayed them.
  • Each girl ended up with a permanent mark replacing a former mark of enslavement as a result of affiliation with fishmen.

Source: onepiece . wikia . com/wiki/Koala

Nami vs Koala! Nami - Has orange hair. - Has a past involving fishmen. - Fishmen were mean to her. - Was enslaved (kind of) by fishmen. - Has a tattoo covering up her mark of slavery. - The mark was the Jolly Roger of Fishmen. - Calls aforementioned nakama: “Sanji-kun”. - Disciplines Sanji with her fist. Koala - Has orange hair. - Has a past involving fishmen. - Fishmen were kind to her. - Was freed from slavery by fishmen. - Has a tattoo covering up her mark of slavery. - The cover up was a Jolly Roger of fishmen. - Calls aforementioned colleague: “Sabo-kun” - Disciplines Sabo by pinching his face. (kinda similar, maybe she also punches him..!)

Source: orojackson . com/one-piece-theories-and-speculations/the-runaway-nobles-and-the-girls-with-a-fishy-past . 154/

I think pudding will die 

sabo lost his memories  at the end of his flashback and sanji was arranged to marry pudding with the memory DF allowing her to take peoples memories and she took his memory of her kissing him away  which makes me think that sanji will regain his memory of her kissing him just like how sabo regained his memories ( which may suggest puddings death given that it was ace’s death that caused sabo to regain his memories and if pudding dies her devil fruit ability and the changes she made to peoples memories will go away)

and I believe it will be due to the blackbeard pirates  for they are on a df hunt and the memory fruit is useful for gathering info like say if they used the fruit on robin to look into her memories about the poneglyphs so they can know where raftel is  etc

what if green bull is the one to kill pudding due to her being of the three eyed race

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Can we take a moment?

I know most of the time I talk about the way Sanji looks at Nami BUT...can we take a moment to talk about the way Nami looks at Sanji??
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The owl and the pussycat...

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“The Owl and a Pussy Cat” is a nonsensical poem of English literature. It was first published in 1871 in a book, Nonsense Songs, Stories, Botany, and Alphabets. The poem comprises the love of Owl and Pussy Cat who get married in a strange place where Bon trees grow. 
There are some symbolism of this poem that has been portrayed in Sanji and Nami along the story.
The most obvious one:
Nami as an owl and Sanji as a cat on WCI
And this colorspread:
An orange owl and a blue cat, and whose colors are those? Oh yeah, Nami and Sanji
Another interesting thing of this poem is that it also implies that love is a free bird and it can sing its song anywhere...hmmm? Doesn't it reminds you of something?
Love, marriage, and joy are some of the major themes of the poem
And coincidentally, Sanji and Nami are the ones with that kind of topics at some point of the story 🌚
The two-way conversation helps the readers understand how the world of happiness can help lovers even if they are not compatible in other ways.
An owl and a cat is a perfect way to describe a couple that doesn't seem to have a lot in common but they are compatible in more ways that you can imagine
At first Sanji and Nami relationship seemed like a mutual convenience but when you get to know the characters, you can see they have a lot in common, the parallelism on their stories, their parental insticts and dreams that connect with the other ( a map of the whole world and finding the All Blue) which makes the metaphore really fascinating!
Did you know about this poem?
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Big fan of this theory, i was able to make this connection between that panel and CS after re-reading early WCI stuff a few years ago while remembering @sanjiafsincedayone 's theory on that owl and cat CS, i convinced @pernanegra to make a post on this way back then :

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So… from interest check, we know you’re still excited of SanNami Week. And congratulation so now we reach the seventh annual of this yearly event to celebrate!

Sorry for the late announcement that we didn’t give you polling to vote prompts as usual in January. But we now have two options of theme each day. You can pick one or combine it! 

  • SN Day (March 7) - Free theme
  • Day 2 (March 8) - It’s A Date / Fave Canon Moments
  • Day 3 (March 9) - Words / Fave Lines or Dialogue
  • Day 4 (March 10) - Dream / Fave Arc
  • Day 5 (March 11) - Sport / Fave Colorspread
  • Day 6 (March 12) - Wardrobe / Fave Outfit
  • Day 7 (March 13) - Season / Fave Filler or Movie
  • Bonus Day (March 14) - Them at the End of Series

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Keep Calm and Love SanNami!  

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SaNami theory: The power of love

SPOILERS UP UNTIL CHAPTER 1030.

After recent chapters with Sanji awakening his powers and his reactions to it I am very curious to see how Oda is going to solve this. He is going to need to address it in some way and give a good resolution for Sanji’s current inner turmoil. My idea is that if Sanji figures out that his powers come from his emotions, and he realizes that he is nothing at all like his brothers, he might accept his powers and be willing to use them moving forward despite his hate for Germa. I think Nami could be used as the trigger for Sanji to understand his powers and then also feel comfortable with who he is even with the powers.

I have little faith in this theory actually happening, mostly because it’s too shippy for Oda. But I couldn’t get it out of my head and felt it worked fairly well, so I ended up writing it down.

What we know at this point is that Sanji is awakening his Germa powers and that he doesn’t want them. This means that Oda will likely have to deal with it in some way so that Sanji accepts them. It also needs to work with what we saw happen in WCI and be done in a way that feels like it makes sense for Sanji’s character.

Sanji doesn’t want to use the Germa powers, but he already has, so he seems open to change his mind if the reasons are good enough. Of course it’s very different if his whole body changes, and I totally understand Sanji’s worrry and fear of turning into something like his brothers.

He doesn’t want to “be a moster like them”, which means he might need to see the difference between himself and his brothers and come to understand his powers as something good. (Unless Oda actually goes down the route of Sanji losing his emotions, but that would mean a whole lot more drama and inner conflict for Oda to solve.)

The thing is that here Sanji says that he doesn’t want to lose his emotions, and that is likely his biggest fear. So, if instead he doesn’t lose his emotions, but understand that his emotions is what awakened his powers it could make him accept them. Oda writes out “I need to figure out what caused this” so it’s likely Oda has a specific reason for why it happened, and will show Sanji figure it out.

At the moment it seems Usopp and Nami got separated, and also that Sanji is moving away from his initial fighting spot, this makes it possible for them to cross paths during Sanji’s fight with Queen and while he tries to understand his current powers.

But now I want to go into a bit more small things that make me think this could work and that Oda might have foreshadowed it.

To start off, I think that if there is one person Sanji could consider becoming a “monster” for to begin with it’s Nami and he’s said as much before.

The first time Sanji meets Nami he says that he is willing to become a devil for her. Later in Skypiea he repeats a similar sentiment about becoming the devil of the blue sea if Enel hurts Nami. 

Then again we have Sanji in Thriller Bark catching on fire when he learns about Nami being kidnapped and that Absalom wants to marry her. We’ve in other words seen Sanji being prepared to go very far for Nami’s sake and him already seemingly getting powered up by his feelings.

We also know that Sanji’s feelings have made him stronger before in other examples, perhaps most notably with his attack “Hell’s memories” which is literally fueled by anger. 

But also the fact that his fire powers are described to be because his “passion burns hotter than flames”.

Basically, Sanji’s fire power at least seems to stem from his emotions. If his new awakening is also because of emotions I think that would work in line with Sanji’s character and be something he can accept rather than if it’s the opposite, that his Germa powers will remove his feelings (which is of course another possibility). Still, at least to some extent Sanji already seems to gain power from his emotions.

You have other small examples of this, for example the cigarette burning more when Sanji is speaking to Capone about his family, or even something as silly as Sanji getting a speed boost after touching Nami’s breast in Punk Hazard.

“What kind of source of power do you call that?” It’s possible these small moments with Nami have been foreshadowing for something that’s about to come.

Now looking at what seems to have triggered the awakening of Sanji’s powers he specifically says he has felt strange since the second time he wore the Raid suit. 

If I am not mistaken he wore it the second time when he saw Nami naked in the bath (the first being when he fought Page 1 and third being when he saved Momo), and it’s possible his strong reaction might have triggered his powers in some way. I just wonder why it would be so specific as Sanji feeling off after the second time in particular.

It might sound silly, but it wouldn’t be too odd for Oda to make Sanji’s pervertedness/love into a source of power. The thing I think speaks the most against this is why the Raidsuit would react to feelings when Judge clearly never meant for his children to have feelings at all. Still, it’s possible Sanji’s feelings have always been the thing to power him, and now with the raidsuit on these Germa powers get more easily dragged out of him so to speak.

Looking at the current situation it’s possible that if Sanji realizes that 1. the second time he wore the suit he saw Nami naked, and 2. he gets a second moment with Nami now that somehow makes him feel different he could connect the two and figure out it was Nami and his emotions that triggered it when he wore the raid suit in the bathhouse.

I also think that out of anyone Nami might be one of few Sanji is willing to change for. Again, he has basically already expressed it a few times, how far he is willing to go for her. So if he gets put in a situation where Nami needs him to use his powers, he might put her above anything. It’s also possible that Nami could be used as a way for Sanji to understand the source of his powers, if it’s true that feelings are triggering them.

Nami was there in WCI and has even mentioned Sanji being different from his brothers. If Sanji realizes that feelings is in fact what makes him stronger and has triggered the latent powers it will still work with Sora’s wish and show how Sanji is both different and in a way better than his siblings specifically because of his love.

If Nami can help Sanji realize that it’s not what he has in common with his brothers, but what makes them different is what’s important, then he might be able to overcome his problem with changing. We know he already is changing and it’s likely going to be permanent, so in the end Oda will have to solve this in some way for Sanji to move forward. If we are lucky Oda might use Nami in regards to Sanji finally accepting himself as he is and help him change his perspective.

It also matches with Sanji’s theme of “Love is a hurricane” and cheesy as it might be the “power of love” being a source of strength for Sanji. Which we have seen expressed before by Sanji’s zombie in Thriller Bark as he jumped in to save Nami.

In the end I just felt it could all match up rather neatly.

  1. Sanji can come to understand that his powers come from his feelings. Not that he will lose them and become like his brothers.
  2. Considering the timing it’s possible that what triggered the awakening was when he saw Nami naked while wearing the raid suit.
  3. Sanji can start to accept that his kindness and emotions is what matters and makes him very different from his family, just like Sora already expressed.
  4. Sanji’s powerup will be related to his love and want to protect.
  5. Nami is one person that knows about Sanji’s family and has seen the difference between him and them.
  6. Nami is someone Sanji has been willing to become a devil for before and it could have been foreshadowing from Oda.

So that’s it. The power of love (or perhaps lust?) could be a trigger for Sanji’s powers and Nami might be part in how Sanji realizes this and also accepts the powers as a part of himself.

Thank you for reading, and let me know what you think. Any possibility at all of this happening or am I just dreaming up shippy scenarios?

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Why SaNa over other ships?

Now, this is not to hate on other ships or downplay them, because what shipping really comes down to is often simply preference. What characters or dynamics you enjoy and what reasons you might have for liking different things. 

No, this is simply my own reasons for why I like SaNa and also why I think they could make sense and thirdly why it’s possible Oda could be setting it up to actually happen in canon. It’s all just my views and I apologize if I forget a moment or add something that is more head canon, but again, this is my reasons and they will always be partially biased. (And there are too many to remember them all properly, so if you want to add feel welcome to do so.)

I think Sanji and Nami is a lovely ship even based just on fan content and the community. But we also get some great moments in the manga, and I personally think there is potential for Oda to make an actual romance work between them.

1. Why I like Sanji and Nami

I personally fell in love with Sanji before I even started to watch or read One Piece, simply based on his voice actor (Hiroaki Hirata), his design and his fighting style. So obviously I already have a bias towards Sanji (SanjiAFsincedayone having a bias towards Sanji? Who knew?). I didn’t ship Sanji with Nami from the start and even now I am a multi shipper who enjoys fan content with Sanji as a main part of several pairs, most prominently ZoSan.

So, when did I fall for SaNa then? Well, I have talked about it in various posts before which you can find in my Masterpost - SanjiAFsincedayone, but for me shipping Sanji and Nami more seriously didn’t start until Thriller Bark. 

Sanji took a knife in the back for her as she is dressed in a wedding dress, even this one scene is enough to explain why someone might like to ship them together.

I for sure saw many SaNa moments before that, and felt Nami seemed special to Sanji, but I didn’t think it would have a big chance of happening and I preferred other ships above it when consuming fan material. Again, shipping is after all mostly fantasy and wanting more of something in a romantic/sexual way. Thriller Bark was when Sanji and Nami’s interactions caught my attention properly and I started to look a bit closer and actually note the way Oda wrote them and their moments. Going back after and rereading I think there is a lot of interesting things even before that. But the wedding theme and bridal carry and how Oda showed them in Thriller Bark was just too on the nose to ignore.

What got me into shipping Sanji with Nami were mainly three things. 

1. Their dynamics getting more interesting over time and Sanji and Nami being two of the most well written and interesting characters in One Piece. 2. Sanji consistently seeming to have a preference for Nami in combination with my belief that he is after true love and isn’t just a pervert forever doomed to be alone. 3.  The manga showing the potential of it actually happening and them finally catching my attention in Thriller Bark. Basically there are moments to follow and look at in the actual story as well, which in turn also leads to more fan content and material for shippers.

So point 1 and 2 really is mostly about my preference and how much I enjoy watching them together and how well I imagine they would fit together. I think their personalities and desires overlap well with them being able to understand and compromise for each other while aslo being on a similar level of intelligence and communication. They also have their kindness and empathy as a highlighted shared theme for their characters.

Them talking about the Children in Punk Hazard or Sanji helping Nami turn in the argument between both Luffy and Vivi and Luffy and Usopp are some examples. Or Nami letting Sanji smoke in her body because she knows how hard it is for him. Small gestures like this show both understanding and a willingness to compromise.

I think they are fun and have a relationship that right now might need working on, but it’s clear how much they care for each other and how they actually appriciate each other a lot.

Simply put I think they are interesting together and I think they could work as a romantic couple in the future, where their dreams and family oriented views migh allign. Again, from how I view them as characters and interpret their wants and possible futures I think Sanji and Nami is a good match. They can have a restaurant either traveling the world or docked close to both Cocoyashi and Zeff, Nami can tend to her mikans together with Sanji and they can manage a restaurant for a living. I also think they are the most parental members in the crew and has shown some possible signs of wanting to settle down with families. This would also work well as a final contrast to their less than happy childhoods (You might also want to check out my post (Part 3) Sanji x Nami hints - Thematic parallels).

There is a lot of potential in their dynamics and how different they seem while they also seem willing to adapt and try to understand each other that make them interesting as characters of romantic plots. At the same time they have enough in common to relate to each other and work well together. Again, as a fictional ship within the fandom there is a lot of great artists, writers etc. that truly explore them and make Sanji and Nami a great and fun ship with an active fandom to engage with.

Of course there are more shallow reasons like them matching in age and being good-looking but really I could ship Sanji with almost any woman if it was only about the looks. I mean, Purin is basically made to be a perfect match for Sanji, but I personally find his dynamic with Nami much more interesting and his dedication to Nami is of course unpraralleled thanks to the time Oda has spent on them over many years.

I love Sanji and Nami as individual characters and with the amount of moments between them there is also a lot to explore and enjoy in the manga. It makes them interesting in a third aspect for me, which is of course analysis and the potential of them actually ending up together and looking closer at the way Oda writes them from a story perspective. For me what we have gotten from Oda in terms of Sanji x Nami moments is very interesting and I see potential there even though it would need more development to truly work for the current story.

But, again shipping doesn’t have to mean anything for the actual story… There are crack ships or slash ships that surely will never happen but that could still be great and fun to explore for the fans. Honestly, everyone is free to ship whatever they want. We all have different taste after all.

So, what about the manga then? 

2. Why do I think they could make sense as a romantic couple even in canon?

First, my own view is that Sanji is someone who seeks true love, and as briefly shown with both Violet and Purin it seems like he would take an actual relationship seriously if given the chance. I also think it would make him happy and thus as Oda might want to create happy resolutions for the strawhats I think Sanji ending up with someone has quite a big chance of happening. This is combination with his preference for Nami and in turn Nami truly caring for him (though not yet in a romantic way) is something that makes me think it could happen. Other ships have potential too depending on how Oda decides to develop them, but considering how he keeps adding moments for SaNa in the way he does as of now I still think SaNa is the most likely ship for Sanji.

As I mentioned earlier I also think Nami has shown some possible inclinations for wanting a family (or at least being a great mother if we look at her with children in many arc, not the least Punk Hazard) and maybe even getting married eventually. 

If she ends up with someone we will need to see a more obvious attraction and want for romance from her no matter what ship we might consider. She has at this point not shown a lot, but I do think the thematic parallels she shares with Sanji in combination with how their moments are written has the potential to grow into something more. 

As a romantic pair I think Sanji and Nami would be happy, he would adore her and take care of her and both of them would probably find that ideal. In fact it’s already a big part of their dynamics and seem to make them both happy. They also seem to try to understand and show interest in knowing each other as seen with several scenes and general attention towards each other’s backstories. They also challange each other in different ways and we have seen them compromise a few times. I think compared to many other relationship in the manga Oda has shown more personal moments between them. So a romantic additional aspect is not too far off. Not that Oda would make it happen now, but that he would lay down the groundwork for it to work by the end of the series.

In short I think they would make each other happy, but also challange and grow thanks to the other. I think their dreams of traveling the world with Nami drawing her map and Sanji cooking on all the seas and finding All Blue and then settiling down together close to both their “homes” in East Blue with a restaurant and family seems to fit them both. It wouldn’t always be easy, but I think they would actually enjoy their dynamics with Nami bossing Sanji around most of the time.

Now this all sounds nice and all, but it’s of course just my imagination based on biased interpretations of the manga. So where do I get it from?

3. The way SaNa is portrayed by Oda

Now this is really the biggest point… Because again, I can ship whatever characters I want and it is just for fun. It doesn’t have to happen for me to enjoy it or I wouldn’t ship Sanji with Zoro. But with Sanji and Nami there are legit reasons in addition to my preference that makes me think it could happen in the manga.

It might take years to actually go through it all in order with my additional interpretations, but I will try to go through the basics themes and moments that to me could indicate SaNa over any other Sanji or Namji ship.

I think the obvious thing to talk about first is simply how Sanji definitely has a romantic (and sexual) interest in Nami. No matter what other character you might see with either of them, this has been shown consistantly over the whole manga. You may argue that Sanji might be interested in others equally, and though I wouldn’t agree it’s a fair point. However from a story perspective it would still need to be resolved. It’s highly unlikely for Nami to end up with anyone unless Sanji ends up with someone else and gets a happy ending too.

As for Sanji’s interest in Nami I personally think Oda has paid a lot of attention to it in a way that makes it the most likely ship for Sanji. He might yet add moments between other ships and develop them (most notably San/Pu of course), but in my opinion the way Oda has added Nami in other potential romantic moments with Sanji it seems Nami is above every other woman so far.

Most importantly I think we have seen: 

  • Sanji leave Violet who actually seemed to show interest in him to run off to save Nami (and the crew, but the point is that Oda chose to highlight and add this moment with focus on Nami to begin with).
  • Sanji being more focused on Nami even when Vivi and Robin has been on the ship or at the same place. Oda definitely puts Sanji with Nami above other women at least in amount of moments and involvment.
  • Sanji being very concerned with Nami in front of Purin and being shown happy with her (the bridal carry for example) and saying he loves her right in front of Purin.
  • Sanji having stronger reactions to Nami than other women. This could just be my way of seeing it, but I do think we have seen the strongest reactions from Sanji when it comes to Nami. Not the least with turning into a literal devil when he heard she was kidnapped by Absalom. For example compare Sanji rushing after Nami in both Skypiea and Thriller Bark even to him going after Robin. Or his reaction to Nami getting sick in Drum. We simply have a lot of strong reactions from Sanji towards Nami in different ways and more importantly Oda seeming to add focus on them. 
  • We also have him reacting to things like “women’s tears” or calls but only indicating Nami might be calling him personally. For example Sanji hearing Tashigi cry or saying he trusts Violet or Robin even though they are lying but for Nami adding things like “I think I heard Nami call out for me” or moments like “I leave my Nami to you”. Basically the way Oda writes it there often seems to be added a more personal stake in Sanji’s reactions and moments with Nami compared to with other women.

So from Sanji’s point of view, and the way Oda has written them so far, I think he puts Nami above every other woman. But more importantly, Oda shows us moments between them that he doesn’t add for other ships as consistantly or in romantic looking ways. Keep in mind that both Nami and Sanji are main characters, but they are not Luffy. Oda choosing to not use Luffy (who will obviously have strong moments with all of his nakama, like how he had his own time with Sanji both in Baratie and WCI) for some of these moments but rather insert Sanji or Nami instead for each other’s stories makes it more relevant. Because it’s not an obvious choice in the same way. It’s a choice based on their characters and dynamics within the world, not because of their roles as main hero or heroine. Here are some examples.

1. Their first meeting. Sanji is for the first time seen in love cook mode and he basically seem ready to leave everything behind for Nami. Right away his reaction to Nami is stronger than what we have seen from him and it seems to hold true even with time.

2. SaNa having interest and plot relevance to each other’s back stories. Sanji getting involved with hearing Nami’s back story and saving his sister.  Also, calling her “sister” which indicates a platonic familiarity where he puts Nami above Nojiko romantically (yes, despite flirting some with her). Nami in turn also getting involved and showing interest in Sanji’s backstory, pushing to go with Luffy to save Sanji and being the one to remind us of Sanji’s past and character traits.

3. Sanji getting personally tantalized by using Nami. This has happened several times, the first with Kuroobi in Arlong Park, but also with Mr. 2 in Alabasta, Absalom in Thriller Bark and then in Fishman Island (Zou too, but that wasn’t just Nami) and on Zou. You can check my post (thought not updated fully) Sanji and Nami – Fights and danger for a more detailed view. (Even in movies like Strong World Sanji has a direct talk with Shiki about Nami and it seems most people are aware of Sanji being extra sensitive to Nami.)

4. Sanji asking Nami if she is jealous or if she loves him, indicating again that he is interested to know is she is interested in him. Once even responding “I love you too”. In general Nami responding in these situations in a more “positive way” or Oda showing Sanji interpreting her actions as more romantic. For example the “proposal” or the hug in WCI.

5. Romantic looking moments or themes. Now this is of couse not something that has been done mutually between them and thus aren’t actually romantic scenes. But the tropes and common use for many of the things that Oda has chosen to use for Sanji and Nami are romantic in nature. Of course the two forced marriages are the strongest examples with them rescuing each other from getting married to someone else. But we also have the switch body trope, the slap and of course smaller gestures like the bridal carries or the way Oda drew the hug between them in WCI. I am not saying that SaNa is the only ship with romantic looking moments, because San/Pu And San/Violet obviously has some as well. However, considering the amount SaNa moments and the fact that he has left Violet and Purin in particular for Nami seems to make the SaNa moments trump any other ship. At least for me personally SaNa as it is now and as Oda has portrayed it in comparison to other Sanji ships gets in the way of Sanji ending up with someone else unless Oda starts to make some changes.

I want to make some emphasis on how Nami and Sanji seem to get some “bigger” moments between them in almost every arc. Again, compare this to Sanji with other women, or even Nami with other crew members.

Baratie - Their first meeting and Sanji’s reaction to Nami and interest gets focus. Arlong Park - Sanji shows interest in Nami’s past and Kuroobi mocks Sanji by specfically mentioning Nami. ( Loguetown Arc, Reverse Mountain Arc, Whiskey Peak Arc and Little Garden mostly have small moments, like Sanji asking if Nami is jealous or Sanji giving Nami his jacket.) Drum Island - Nami is sick and we see Sanji worry and care for her and in the end even sacrificing himself for her. Nami worries about him too. Alabasta - Sanji fighting Mr. 2 looking like Nami and lots of small moments like Sanji asking Nami if she loves him.

Jaya - Nami showing interest in Sanji’s back story. Small things like Nami hiding for the bugs behind Sanji or Sanji. Skypiea - Sanji being hell-bent of saving Nami and making the others look for her. Then him saving Nami and Usopp from Enel and Nami being worried in return. (Both times Sanji gets hit by Enel Nami is there and worries.) Then a lot of small moments like him giving her a flower and Nami pulling Sanji’s ear for flirting with Conis. Long Ring Long Land - Nami encourage Sanji be the ball and win, but mostly small moments like Sanji getting annoyed with Aokiji for flirting with Nami or him sitting next to her and trying to kiss her. Water 7 - Sanji leaving his love letter to Nami and Nami being worried for (and impressed with) Sanji. Enies Lobby - Sanji losing against a woman, Nami being understanding and then stepping in to basically revenge him. Also Sanji hearing it as Nami loving him and then him showing up to save Nami and Usopp from Jyabura.

Post-Enies Lobby - Not much, but Sanji stepping in to make Nami and Zoro stop fighting and make Nami understand Zoro’s pov. Thriller Bark - Sanji just being extremely focused on Nami and worried about her throughout the whole arc. Also him getting specifically selected by Luffy to save Nami. Of course the wedding theme with the bridal carry and Sanji’s reaction to Nami. Also Sanji’s Zombie protecting Nami (and later kicking Robin) and his “obsession with Nami” being mentioned. Sabaody Archipelago - Another smaller arc, but we do get Nami worried about Sanji possibly drowning. And smaller moments like Sanji being angry for Nami being put in danger by the Fishman Riders or him telling Franky to take care of Nami as he runs to protect Zoro. When they return we of course also get the nosebleeds, and Sanji daydreaming about Nami’s development.

Fishman Island - Sanji’s reaction to Jinbei and Arlong. Also the fishmen pointing out that Nami might be their weakness due to Sanji’s “over reaction“ to her falling. Punk Hazard - The body swtich, Sanji’s body saving Nami and Sanji being careful with not hurting her etc. Also them working together to save the children, Sanji listening to Nami’s request and saying he loves her more because of her kindness. Also small things like Sanji giving his jacket to Nami again. Dressrosa - Sanji leaving Violet behind to save Nami, insisting that he should be the one to save her and then him getting attacked by Doflamingo and Nami getting worried and not wanting to leave him. Sanji basically tries to sacrifice himself for Nami for the 4th time (Drum, Skypiea x2, also maybe in Thriller Bark). Zou - We get a lot of focus on Nami and Sanji together, and then of course when Sanji is gone Nami is the driving force for his plot. Once again Nami is also used to taunt Sanji (inside Capone). Then Nami is both the one to mention Sanji being from North Blue and to listen to Pekom’s talk about his family. Not to mention her insisting on going with Luffy to WCI and having a fight with Zoro as she defends Sanji. Whole Cake Island - The way she pushes for them to find Sanji, her hapiness when they find him and her hurt and the slap. We even get something like Nami being tantalized with Sanji by both Purin and Brulee. The only strawhat besides Luffy who gets a personal story thread with Sanji and a personal resolution for their conflict is Nami. The tension seems personal and combined with Sanji having another love interest but choosing Nami above her it does seem like Nami is the more natural choice both for Sanji and for Oda. 

There is also a distinct increase in romantic-looking moments between them, with them touching more than ever before.

Wano - Even after WCI it doesn’t seem like Oda is stopping the SaNa moments. Sanji manages to save and carry Nami three times in the beginning of Wano. On top of that we have the bath scene and of course a lot of small moments and mentions between them like Sanji asking Usopp to take care of “My Nami-san” or Sanji jumping in abobe Nami to save her from arrows. 

How many times have we had Sanji be the one to go after Nami or save her? By his own choice, by being the one present or even by Luffy asking Sanji to go. Oda puts Sanji next to Nami a lot, and I think it’s possible he might be doing it for a reason.

Who knows what we might get, but the fact that we have as much as we do really seems to show Oda having a preference to put them together in various ways.

The point is they have a lot of time and moments dedicated to them from Oda despite them both being secondary characters. At this point it’s possible Sanji is the person Nami has moments with the most in the story besides Luffy (and perhaps Usopp) as they often end up together. Of course this is including them thinking about and talking about each other as well, and not just direct interacting. For example counting the body switch and Nami being worried and focused on Sanji while on Zou. Oda doesn’t have to, but he has chosen to write it like this. On top of that he adds romantic interest from Sanji and romantic looking moments between them.

I could go on, and there are plenty of moments and examples to find between Nami and Sanji that are interesting to look a bit deeper at. You can check out my Masterpost - SanjiAFsincedayone for some of them. But as it is now here are the main points for why I think SaNa at least has a bigger chance to happen than other ships with the two of them as it is now.

  1. One-sided attraction and romantic interest from Sanji’s side that needs to be resolved in one way or another.
  2. Nami seems special to Sanji. Even small things like only using -san for her and -chan for others is a detail that makes her stand out to him.
  3. Great involvement in each other’s stories. Oda likes adding Sanji and Nami in moments together both for interaction and explenation about each other. For example Sanji is also often used to save Nami.
  4. Interactions of understanding and changing dynamics between the two, like them compromising for each other or wanting to know about the other’s past. Matching personalities and a possible future.
  5. Romantic themes and moments, mainly the weddings, but also the amount of times Sanji has saved Nami and things like the hug being drawn in a very romantic looking way with Nami being more focused on.
  6. Tension and urgency. This is basically Sanji and Nami having a lot of focus on each other in dire situations and Oda showing it with specific mentions.

So, to summarize, I like Sanji and Nami both as indvidual characters and together. I enjoy them as a ship and to explore their dynamics in a romantic way no matter what they might end up as in the story. Anyone should be able to respect that people have different preferences. Additionally I think and speculate that they would work well and could happen in the manga as well. This is obviously a biased interpretation and opinion. 

I might be wrong, but you should be able to respect that too as we have yet to get anything objectivly confirming any ship. We don’t know if any ship with end up canon at all. Maybe Sanji and Nami will remain a ship that never becomes canon, but even so they are a ship that is definitely worth enjoying.

I hope you found this post interesting and can enjoy your own ship and fandom while also seeing that it’s ok for others to like something different than you. Thanks for reading.

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We’re sorry for the late announcement. But we won’t miss this year without our favorite pairing event! Welcome to The 6th Annual Sanji x Nami Week, are you ready?

As usual, we’ve randomly gathered 30 prompts to be voted. Only TOP 7 prompts (and 1 bonus) that would be applied for the entire week. This is the link to the Prompt Poll–> https://forms.gle/Qg36NYWEPZhQLaLK9

Polls will be closed on February 14 at 11:59 PM EST.  We’ll announce it two weeks prior the event.

This is an international event, not just a tumblr event, so spread the news to everyone who love One Piece and SanNami via your instagram, deviantart, twitter, facebook, etc.

Keep calm and love SanNami!

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You don’t say...
  • Saviour and an ambition
  1. Both were saved by a stranger in the same fashion, which later become their parents.
  2. Both decided on thier ambitions which were supported by books. Nami at the time was free but poor, that pushed her to stealing since she didn’t have enough. Sanji is a prince, all he had to do was order the henchmen to get him what he needed since everything was available, however he was far from free.
  • A dream and a fight
  1. Their ambitions turned into dreams that they held dearly, which was also supported by their respective idols.
  2. Both fought against their respective parent, which led them to realize a very important lesson.
  • Regret and loss
  1. They both regretted the moment they raised their voice and begged for them not to leave, not to die.
  2. Both lost their mothers... Sanji’s mother, Sora, was dying slowly... little by little infront of his eyes, while Bellemere literally died right infront of Nami’s eyes, right then and there.
  • Sister and Resolve
  1. Their sister were the only one they could rely on and go back to.
  2. They decided to affirm their future by declaring to their sister about their determination, their goal... their resolve.
  • Imprisonment and call for help
  1. Both were imprisoned and were told to do things against their will. Drawing maps for the pirate who killed her mother, and giving up on cooking and training 100 hundred times harder from the man who disowned him and the reason behind his mother’s passing
  2. Both were soo helpless and wanted someone to release them from their misery. After Sanji escaped, he decided to take matters into his own hands if it means he will be able to achieve his dream (he was the only one to oppose Zeff before the storm hit). Nami decided to work under Arlong by herself if it meant she that she might be able to kill him or free the village any other way.
  • Refusal and Reason
  1. Both refused the idea of being a pirate (Even though Sanji had already spent half of his life as one with Zeff until they established the restaurant) . Nami hated pirates because of what Arlong has done to her, and Sanji prioritized his old man’s restaurant success over his own dreams.
  2. The main reason behind their refusal is a selfless reason, where Nami wants to buy back her village from Arlong, while Sanji wants to repay his life long debt to Zeff by protecting Zeff’s treasure, the restaurant Baratie.
Not only is it unbelievable how similar their history and backgrounds are... but could it actually mean something?

You don’t say...

Note: what Nami said might not mean much for many people, HOWEVER it really makes you wonder and come to understand a bit of Oda’s thought process and his choices. This here confirms or at least heavily implies that Oda really cares and is aware of characters’ history and how it will impact two individual interacting characters. Basically what I am saying is that CLEARLY this is NOT meant just for Sanji and Nami but many others as well, but when it comes to “details” and “depth”... Sanji and Nami almost have no competition in similarities compared to other characters. They are a cut above the rest, they are two sides of the same coin. The only ones that come close to them are Sabo and Koala... and we already know how that turned out☺️.

How about you compare a “first time meeting” between two women and “a long journey” with a man and a woman?

With similar backgrounds...

+everything we know and experienced between them

If growing up in similar circumstances is enough to feel that close on a first meeting, I can’t even start to imagine how already close Nami and Sanji are by now...

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Wow. Can you believe Oda actually made Sanji call Nami "My Nami-san" and asking Usopp to take care of her. Pretty sure it's a first in the manga that Sanji uses 'my' about her.

Sanji - "Tanomuzo Usopp, ore no Nami-san o." ❤️

And the added heart. I am so happy that Oda keeps giving small moments like this to Sanji and Nami through out Wano. Especially after WCI it feels extra good that he still gives them moments. 😚

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Wow. Can you believe Oda actually made Sanji call Nami "My Nami-san" and asking Usopp to take care of her. Pretty sure it's a first in the manga that Sanji uses 'my' about her.

Sanji - "Tanomuzo Usopp, ore no Nami-san o." ❤️

And the added heart. I am so happy that Oda keeps giving small moments like this to Sanji and Nami through out Wano. Especially after WCI it feels extra good that he still gives them moments. 😚

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Sanji as a leader P.1 - The Chef

I’ve always felt like Sanji is one of the ones in the crew whom steps into the role of a leader the most and also one who is the most suited to lead. I just wanted to analyze a few of the moments and charactaristics that make me feel this way. However, this is not a competition, I’m simply trying to highlight some of Sanji’s qualities as a leader.

Which is why I decided to make a series of posts that all focus on different sides to Sanji that I think are worth discussing in relation to the leadership skills that I personally see in him.

This is the first part, and I’ll be talking about Sanji’s position as a chef and how it’s one of many things that has contributed to Sanji being good at leading.

This is basically a long character analysis that I had to devide into different parts! Enjoy~

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Sanji as a leader P.2 - Diciplining the crew

I’ve always felt like Sanji is one of the ones in the crew whom steps into the role of a leader the most. I just wanted to analyze a few of the moments and charactaristics that make me feel this way. However, this is not a competition, I’m simply trying to highlight some of Sanji’s qualities as a leader.

Which is why I decided to make a series of posts that all focus on different sides to Sanji that I think are worth discussing in relation to the leadership skills that I personally see in him.

This is the second part, but it’s really short. It’s about how Sanji often is seen disciplining the crew and why I think these moments show some of Sanji’s qualities as a leader.

This is basically a long character analysis that I had to devide into different parts! Enjoy~

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So while I have this account dedicated to my favorite ship in anime (Ukyo & Ryoga), I was recently inspired to make an AMV for another favorite ship of mine which is Sanji X Nami.

It came out pretty decent, nothing too amazing. I have very little video editing experience, but I had loads of fun with this. I didn't have anywhere to post it so I just made a YT channel for it!

It would mean a lot to me if any fellow OP and Sanami fans would stop by.

https://youtu.be/yxOHHmTOL3s