jfgogh is so bad

i dont mean to be mean, and i have no ill will towards the people that enjoy the ship, do what makes you happy. but the level of popularity it gained amongst new fans and the majority of the content that came out of it left a bad taste in my mouth

dont get me wrong i like van gogh. i think the bits he had were funny and his design is great

but kids were very clearly projecting themselves onto van gogh's character and they interpretted him as some "uwu misunderstood lonely edgyboi but also anxious softboi artsy outcast XD hes just like me!!!!!!" and they couldnt admit they had a crush on jfk so they instead put van gogh and jfk together. and it made no sense.

if people wanted an mlm ship with jfk, ghandi, abe and ponce are right there. they all have chemistry and tropes that could be paired easily together with jfks meathead jerk jock character instead of what fans though van goghs character was.

do people want a relationship with a height difference and silly shenanigans?: ghandi

enemies to lovers and opposites attract?: abe

childhood friends to lovers and hurt and comfort and angst?: ponce

there are so many better options than some random background character with 3 lines.

and all the fics that came out of the ship that romanticized self harm and severe mental illness were messed up

tldr: out of all the fandoms ive been apart of, jfgogh is one of the worst ships i have seen. f-tier

It’s okay to dislike Jfgogh. It’s not my favorite ship, but I don’t dislike it.

My opinion is that it’s okay to ship whoever as long as it’s not a problematic ship. The ship, itself does not need to make sense.

From what you’ve told me, it seems Van Gogh is ooc when it comes to the ship. It is annoying but isn’t the worst thing. Jfgogh isn’t the worse ship out there and it’s fine if people ship them together.

this is a response to the guy who hates jfgogh, fully agree. Van Gogh is mischaracterised so often, he’s not a “UwU misunderstood femboy” . If anything he’s a maniacal little animal. He got revenge on Gandhi for putting him on speakerphone by painting a massive mural of Gandhi NUDE infront of the whole school. He ripped up a stop sign and smashed a window. His whole personality is definitely not just chaotic little weirdo, but he also isn’t just sad uwu baby

Sometime people write mlm ships with the same dynamics over and over which perpetuates harmful stereotypes.

They stereotypes characters into a “dominant” and “submissive” role. In the process these characters are pushed into heteronormative ideals.

This could be the case with jfgogh. that could be why Van Gogh’s character is butchered. Although, I wouldn’t know since I haven’t seen it happen first hand so this is all an assumption. Please let me know if I am wrong!

Let me end with this, it fine to ship jfgogh. It’s also fine to dislike the ship.