NatNicole, a.k.a. Alex Grim

Miguel should’ve gone after the people who actually made the collider, I’m just saying

Miguel’s wrong by the way. About Miles being the ultimate anomaly. Yes, the spider that bit him came from another dimension, and yes that universe is without a Spider-Man, but it was already in Alchemax’s hands, and whoever Miguel thinks was “supposed” to be Spider-Man was never gonna be Spider-Man, even if Miles was never bitten. And the fact that he was, that against all odds this spider found a way to him from an entity that captured dozens of spiders just like it, that it came all the way from another universe, arguably signifies that Miles being Spider-Man may not be the freak accident Miguel makes it out to be

So in the second half of ATSV we have Peter B. telling Miles that he had his daughter because of him, and MJ telling Peter that there's no handbook for raising someone like Mayday. I.e. the whole thing is not canon. And Miguel had a daughter who he lost because it went against canon.

I don't really know where I'm going with this lol

No, no; you've gone somewhere brilliant with this!! *points at @freezing-and-i-fall with an index finger whilst grinning* Wait, chiz; pointing is rude!! *puts hand down* Sorry!! I forgot.

Anyhoo, there's a sorta inverse parallel (What's the word for that? Is it "foil"? Is infant Mayday – I say infant coz there's also a teen Mayday cameoing briefly in the movie – a foil for Miguel's alternate Universe daughter?) between Miguel's daughter & infant Mayday. Miguel's Multiverse travel (or possibly something else, if it's revealed in the Beyond movie that he misunderstood what had happened) erased his daughter whereas B's Multiverse travel (especially him growing to love Miles as a student/nephew/son) created his daughter. I hope this point gets talked 'bout by B in the Beyond movie.

He already mentioned it in the Across movie, but B seriously ought to clarify Mayday's existence to Miguel. I think Miguel already knows, but hasn't properly thought through what it all means.

Ooh, it would be so neat (and tragic lol) if Miguel misunderstood what had happened! What if he was already concerned about disrupting the canon when he went over into the other universe? And so he kept trying to keep his influence to a minimum, and in that inadvertently caused the collapse.

And yeah I'm overall very interested in Miguel's and Peter's interaction. Peter seems to think he's got no bite? Lmao. And Miguel is far nicer to him than to the others. And Peter was there when Miguel's family universe collapsed. Would be nuts if Peter's "hold my baby!!!" was what brought Miguel back to the good side in the end.

Disclaimer: my knowledge of Spider-Man comics is sadly extremely limited.

Excellent points!! *claps hands together thrice before doing finger-guns with both hands*

Disclaimer: Don't worry!! I've only read four or five Spiderman comicbooks and don't even remember anything from 'em beyond some vague stuff.

Got back from seeing the movie again and a tiny theme I liked was the solidarity in the younger POC generation vs the older gen.

Margo, Hobie, Pavitr and Miles all had eachother’s back. They fought together, they helped eachother in small ways like Hobie telling Miles to use the palms, and big ways like Miles saving Captain Singh and Margo letting Miles go “home”.

They could’ve stopped him, they could’ve not helped eachother but they did. Because they understood and they all realized what was wrong with the Spider Society. All of them at the end came together to support and help Miles, in the way the rest of the spiders couldn’t and didn’t.

And when you put that into perspective with Miguel and Jessica, older POC that gave no support. They believe that Miles has to suffer in order to become Spider-Man, that pain will always have to happen.

But the others don’t believe that, they know that best way to be a hero is uplift and help eachother. Often the parents, the older generation compromise their morals and others for the future, for them to grow up safer and yet the future generation always has to reckon with the consequences of those actions without even having a say in the first place.

That’s a damn message, and I love that they used the younger poc generation to show that because this does happen in real life, there is a difference and often our parents, our grandparents believe that pain has to happen for our identity to be created.

AAAAH

[Image Description: two images of a specific scene from 'Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse' (2023), with text added.

The first shows Miguel O'Hara glaring at Miles Morales. Most of the image is taken up by Miguel's head and part of his shoulders, with Miles' left hand on Miguel's right shoulder at the left (from Viewer's Point of View) side of the image. Miguel's mouth is open in a snarl, showing his teeth. The text on a bit of Miguel's chin and Miles' very curly black hair at the (from Viewer's PoV) lower right corner of the image is: 'remember that you can't save everyone'

The second image shows the right side of the back of Miguel's head on the image's (from Viewer's POV) left side; the rest of the image is Miles' right shoulder, his head, and most of his hair. His eyes are almost entirely closed. The text atop the back of Miguel's head (above his right ear) is: 'remember that you have to try']

So in the second half of ATSV we have Peter B. telling Miles that he had his daughter because of him, and MJ telling Peter that there's no handbook for raising someone like Mayday. I.e. the whole thing is not canon. And Miguel had a daughter who he lost because it went against canon.

I don't really know where I'm going with this lol

No, no; you've gone somewhere brilliant with this!! *points at @freezing-and-i-fall with an index finger whilst grinning* Wait, chiz; pointing is rude!! *puts hand down* Sorry!! I forgot.

Anyhoo, there's a sorta inverse parallel (What's the word for that? Is it "foil"? Is infant Mayday – I say infant coz there's also a teen Mayday cameoing briefly in the movie – a foil for Miguel's alternate Universe daughter?) between Miguel's daughter & infant Mayday. Miguel's Multiverse travel (or possibly something else, if it's revealed in the Beyond movie that he misunderstood what had happened) erased his daughter whereas B's Multiverse travel (especially him growing to love Miles as a student/nephew/son) created his daughter. I hope this point gets talked 'bout by B in the Beyond movie.

He already mentioned it in the Across movie, but B seriously ought to clarify Mayday's existence to Miguel. I think Miguel already knows, but hasn't properly thought through what it all means.

No joke though the idea of Miles and Pavitr becoming especially good friends super fast bc of their shared “I don’t care how hopeless it looks, I can save everyone, actually, and I’m gonna” idealism still being unbroken and directly validated by one another’s actions/circumstances makes me smile super big

Precisely!! To me, those 2 are (not biological nor legally adoptive) brothers who give the rest of the Spider-People what their entire society has 1 member at a time completely lost by the time Across movie happens: hope.

They meet

Based completely off of this iconic video

Best brothers ever!!

with pavitr having his hair out of the mask, and hugging gayatri when he saves her, and having The Worst attempt at disguising his voice out of all the spiderkids (which is saying something, when you're up against miles and gwen) - i love the idea that everybody in mumbattan absolutely knows that pavitr prabhakar is spider-man, but all have an unspoken agreement to never actually acknowledge it, because he's sweet and helpful and god, he's just a kid.

tourists and visitors and people just moving there will gesture to his very visible and easily identifiable hair and open their mouths to comment on it, and the nearest Seasoned Member of the Pavitr Prabhakar Defense Committee™ will slap a hand over their mouth and wrangle them in the opposite direction before they can blow his cover and get him arrested

And he 100% believes he's the best at keeping his secret identity. His Aunt makes sure to talk frequently about what a good boy that Spider-Man is and how his family must be very proud.

Pav doodle im srry i use this page as a dumpster

(i still need to post the rest of my style comic)

[ID: digital fanart of Pavitr spider-man on a white background. He spins his bangle on a web with one hand. He looks in the camera and says, "All in a day's work for spider-" the bangle bonks him on the head. "Ack!" /end]

Pavitr being so invested in Gwen x Miles is so funny to me-

[Image Description: a black and white digital drawing of Miles Morales and Gwendolyne "Gwen" Maxine Stacy happily talking to each other on the left side of the Viewer whilst on the picture's right side Pavitr Prabhakar watches wide-eyed, with him positioned in such a way that it indicates he's a few feet behind Miles and Gwen. Next to him stands Hobert "Hobie" Brown. Pavitr's fists are up near his elbows and his mouth has formed a 0 shape. Hobie has his arms crossed and a serious facial expression while blowing a bubble from his mouth using chewing gum. Above Miles (who has his eyes open) and Gwen (who has her eyes closed) is a rectangle. In the rectangle is text: 'Literally just talking or something'. Above Pavitr's head is the bit of a comicbooks speech bubble which indicates a character is talking, the pointy end being near Pavitr's mouth. He has above the bit text: "Ooh, the tension..."]

Ok I saw across the spidervese and i loved it!

But I have been thinking of a mini theory. I think our main spider crew are all are/ have anomaly's in their reality's, (and most of them came from their time with miles)

I'm not sure about bite and punk, but i do think its interesting that miles has such a profound effect on everyone he meets that they would fight for him and even break the laws of their reality because of him.

Another Gwen one is that her father is no longer a captain which means he can't die as a canon event and she only had that talk with him because Miguel sent her home after she messed up that whole Miles thing

I love gwens arc in this movie of hurting people you care about because you've been hurt and how it's leading to her making amends for it but I love miles' coming of age arc so much too... they set up his desperate need to belong and have people who understand him so well and then the choice between doing what's best for him, what he thinks is right over sticking to what he's told just to keep that sense of belonging somewhere even if it means going against people he loves, this found family that isn't an easy relationship just because they connect, they are still people who can hurt him despite caring for him. and he's able to do that because of his family!! because even when he wasn't sure they would accept him being spiderman in the end his parents are his safe space, a place where he can return to and its paralleled so well with gwen making the wrong choices when she didn't have that, out of the same need to belong (next to a pure desperation of needing a place to live and also the whole universe at stake but yk), like the emotional and interpersonal layer of this movie is done so well I'm gagged still

Spider-Verse Artists Say Working on the Sequel Was ‘Death by a Thousand Paper Cuts’

Why don’t more animated movies look this good? According to people who worked on the sequel, Across the Spider-Verse, it’s because the working conditions required to produce such artistry are not sustainable.

Multiple Across the Spider-Verse crew members — ranging from artists to production executives who have worked anywhere from five to a dozen years in the animation business — describe the process of making the the $150 million Sony project as uniquely arduous, involving a relentless kind of revisionism that compelled approximately 100 artists to flee the movie before its completion.

While frequent major overhauls are standard operating procedure in animation (Pixar films can take between four and seven years to plot, animate, and render), those changes typically occur early on during development and storyboarding stages. But these Spider-Verse 2 crew members say they were asked to make alterations to already-approved animated sequences that created a backlog of work across multiple late-stage departments. Across the Spider-Verse was meant to debut in theaters in April of 2022, before it was postponed to October of that year and then June 2023 owing to what Entertainment Weekly reported as “pandemic-related delays.” However, the four crew members say animators who were hired in the spring of 2021 sat idle for anywhere from three to six months that year while Phil Lord tinkered with the movie in the layout stage, when the first 3-D representation of storyboards are created.

As a result, these individuals say, they were pushed to work more than 11 hours a day, seven days a week, for more than a year to make up for time lost and were forced back to the drawing board as many as five times to revise work during the final rendering stage.

"For animated movies, the majority of the trial-and-error process happens during writing and storyboarding. Not with fully completed animation. Phil’s mentality was, This change makes for a better movie, so why aren’t we doing it? It’s obviously been very expensive having to redo the same shot several times over and have every department touch it so many times. The changes in the writing would go through storyboarding. Then it gets to layout, then animation, then final layout, which is adjusting cameras and placements of things in the environment. Then there’s cloth and hair effects, which have to repeatedly be redone anytime there’s an animation change. The effects department also passes over the characters with ink lines and does all the crazy stuff like explosions, smoke, and water. And they work closely with lighting and compositing on all the color and visual treatments in this movie. Every pass is plugged into editing. Smaller changes tend to start with animation, and big story changes can involve more departments like visual development, modeling, rigging, and texture painting. These are a lot of artists affected by one change. Imagine an endless stream of them."

"Over 100 people left the project because they couldn’t take it anymore. But a lot stayed on just so they could make sure their work survived until the end — because if it gets changed, it’s no longer yours. I know people who were on the project for over a year who left, and now they have little to show for it because everything was changed. They went through the hell of the production and then got none of their work coming out the other side."

I would rather have worse animation that's cruelty free.

anyway in case you need a reminder: proshippers DNI

ppl who celebrate fictional character birthdays are annoying pass it on

FUCK this post and happy birthday sonic

, Sonja, & Manic!!

I hope you 3 have fun on your birthday.

Happy birthday to the best blue hedgehog!

[Image Description: a digital drawing of Knuckles, Tails, & Amy from 'Sonic the Hedgehog' (1991) franchise hugging the titular character. All 4 have their eyes closed. Knuckles & Tails are on Sonic's right (the Viewer's left) and Amy is on Sonic's left (the Viewer's right). Knuckles and Sonic are grinning whilst Tails & Amy smile open-mouthedly. There is a white background and the air above the squad is full of what seems to be glitter in red, yellow, blue, and pink. Above them is text 'HAPPY 31ST ANNIVERSARY' in red.]

Knuckles is always the least white character in any Sonic game but never in the same way

[Image Description: a screenshot of tags.

'#when he was originally designed for Sonic 3/Sonic & Knuckles/Sonic 3 & Knuckles he was intended to be Jamaican.

#in Sonic Adventure 1 he was established as a descendant of an ancient Maya/Native American-esque civilisation

#in Sonic Adventure 2 they really double down on his Rap theming and kinda code him as African-American

#though... y'know that could certainly be considered very stereotypical coding what with his whole thing being Tough N Hard-Headed ???

#though that's definitely not all there is to the character there At All

#idk i'm just kinda talkin out my ass at this point should prob shut up'.]

If a native person tells you not to do or use something because it misues or mocks something from their culture, even if you personally didn't think it did or that the thing in question "isn't actually that special", your first instinct should be to listen to them and not try to "prove them wrong" (especially if it's something as small and simple as 'don't put feathers behind the cat's ears' like why are you choosing this hill to die on, are you okay? Do you like yourself very much?).