"You are too weak to save anyone."
"Not even yourself."
This is why I love the tragedy that is Sephiroth.

"You are too weak to save anyone."
"Not even yourself."
This is why I love the tragedy that is Sephiroth.
Gi Lore Breakdown/Theories
(FF7 Rebirth Spoiler Warning)
I don't know how I missed this bit. Maybe a full rewatch is in order in case I missed anything else big.
So the Cetra (and possibly humans, too) showed up, pushed out the Gi-the planet's original inhabitants-and made them outcasts. Am I interpreting that correctly?
If so, the Gi's grudge is legit as far as I'm concerned. And if my speculation turns out to be correct and Jenova is also Gi...well. If you and your people were forced to wander the planet as displaced spirits while your corpse has been desecrated for the last 30+ years by human scientists, you'd be pretty pissed off too, no? I would. Especially knowing that the planet used to belong to you until what was pretty much a straight up alien invasion.
I'd love to know what caused the cataclysm that ravaged the planet while it was still the Gi home world. Just what does Omega Weapon do to a planet before it deposits the Lifestream on it to make sure they start off with a clean slate?
Yea, Lucretia research on the Chronicles of Yore (which was written by the ancients) doesn't describe what Omega does when he reaches a new world. That's why I didn't add that in my original post.
In my personal opinion I think Jenova as an entity is Cosmic karma towards the Lifestream and the Cetra. She might be the antithesis/foil of the Lifestream, both invading forces with focus on merging with a host. However Jenova merges with the host by corrupting it before taking it over then moving on to a new world vs. taking over worlds for its own creation to thrive until the world can't sustain it no longer and leaves for greener pastures.
(it honestly makes me think of why Mako isn't unlimited, it should be if it has a cycle (like the water cycle or the rock cycle). But it doesn't when it leaves it just stays in the atmosphere/sky, I wonder if the LifeStream does this on purpose to measure if the world is still suitable to stay on. Or this is just weird fantasy logic and I'm just overthinking it).
But all in all the basically the story of FF7 in my opinion is the Lifestream/Cetra getting a taste of its own medicine by Jenova/Sephiroth.
Gi Lore Breakdown/Theories
(FF7 Rebirth Spoiler Warning)
I know this is a crazy theory but I thinkSephiroth Goal in the Re trilogy isn't to be a god but to finally Die.
In-game he uses the pronoun "Ore" more often than "Watashi", but it seems in both cases they are still aligned with his OG goal. However, what makes me think this is the Executioner symbolism with Cloud, every time Cloud strikes him down he never fights it. At one point he even gives him his Blessing. What also helps me think this is the whole new lore with the gi tribe and Sephiroth being there but not saying a word (all the while the gi are chanting their one true desire "freedom in death".
I would be game for seeing Sephiroth having a definitive end. So long as it's done tastefully, of course. It would actually be pretty cool if one of these versions of Sephiroth is a Seph from a universe in which he actually wins and just...wants to end himself at long last after figuring out godhood is lonely and meaningless. That said, I don't think they'd be that profound, especially if this supposedly leads into AC. Sephiroth will keep coming back again and again in new convoluted ways, never learning his lesson.
I've said it before--the best (and kindest) conclusion you could take Sephiroth's character is to put him out of his misery. Both to avenge the lives he's taken and also to end the existential grief and tragedy that began with his birth. Sephiroth has to accept the pull of the Lifestream and dissolve. And if not that, then just cease to exist entirely. It sounds harsh, but it's an end to everyone's pain, Sephiroth included.
This is going to cause some serious brain rot for me.
More Information I found about the Angel Symbolism in FF7 (Part 2):
I believe Zack Fair is an Angel in a traditional sense. An Angel is a being that becomes the bridge between Man and God, they have many responsibilities but the most important is the protection of the righteous.
- Zack's story has all of these aspects, he is the bridge between Shinra and the everyday person (his missions in crisis core being a prime example, and his most notable actions are in the protecting Cloud (a kid caught up in the cross fire).
Finally there Cloud Strife, who I believe without a doubt symbolizes as an Archangel (An Archangel is Leader of the regular angels within the Lord's heavenly Army). But I don't believe Cloud is just any Archangel I believe he is the Archangel Michael for two reasons, one Michael is prophesy to rise up at a time of great tribulation like the world has never seen, and two Micheal is the Angel who defeated Satan during his rebellion and cast him out to the Earth.
-Cloud the leader of the party, and he is the one at the end to rise above the circumstance & defeat Sephiroth during the Meteor Crisis.
Extra: Also many believe Satan or Lucifer was a Seraphim before his fall (fits Sephiroth's fall), and so Cloud being an Archangel is Poetic for their endless battle.
Dude...
These are so interesting! You've really got an eye for imagery. I need to replay everything to pick up on some extras...
Fun Scenario Idea:
Lazard finds the paperwork he just finished completely destroyed after he comes back from a meeting. How does he react, who does he blame first, and who actually did it. (Lazard needs more love)
*There's a lot of screaming and swearing from Lazard's part. Then he goes to find the obvious suspects. Cue Lazard marching through the floor dragging both Genesis and Zack by the ears*
Zack: Ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow
Genesis: I didn't do it! This is a calculated accusation! A smear campaign against my person!
Zack: Ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow
Lazard: I KNOW IT WAS YOU TWO! WHO ELSE WOULD THINK OF PLAYING FIRAGA PING-PONG IN MY OFFICE!?
*They disappear around the corner en route to Lazard's office for discipline*
*Meanwhile Sephiroth and Angeal are watching all of this go down from the sidelines. Both of them are holding charred ping-pong paddles and have soot on their faces*
Sephiroth:
Angeal:
Sephiroth: My conscience is clear.
Angeal: Yeah same here.
Thought this would be fun to share:
So I recently was researching angelology for a project of mine, and I just realized Sephiroth, Angeal, and Genesis each represent one of the three highest Angels. Not just design-wise but symbolically.
Sephiroth is a Seraphim. A Seraphim's main purpose is worship, making them the closest to God and the highest level of Angel. Considering Sephiroth's strong devotion to Jenova after Nibelheim, even after he learns that truth about Jenova in the lifesteam. Seraphim are also called The Burnings Ones, and considering fire is a reoccurring theme for Sephiroth it speaks for itself.
Angeal is a Cherubim. A Cherubim main purpose is the protection of sacred places like the Garden of Eden and the Arc of the Covenant. Angeal's whole arc is about him losing his Soldier Pride/Honor, something that he considered sacred to himself, is what lead him to his own demise. Cherubim are the only high level Angel among the three that wield a sword.
Genesis is a Ophanim/Throne. Ophanim or Thrones main purpose is to guard the Throne of God. This shows itself more in Genesis resolution at the end of Crisis Core, with him finding a new purpose after seeing Minerva.
- Crisis Core Ultimania:
- So as result, Minerva/the lifestream stops his degradation and allows him to live on in order to complete his duty. He then later vows to aid the planet when it needs him in the future. So I guess one could say that Genesis's connection to Minerva/the lifestream/planet is to serve as it's sentinel or guardian.
I never thought of it that way before! There's a lot of symbolic layers to these characters for sure! I always learn something new about them every day!