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I don’t sense anything. It’s not about the mission, Master. It’s something… elsewhere. Elusive.
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#I don't get why among all this analysis his agency is once more negated though#his statement of 'not swinging that way' has at least as much weight as every single point OP is making#it makes me incredibly uncomfortable that this smart analysis leaves no room whatsoever for Dean's own words on the issue#it's not even mentioned -- Yes this. Which is the biggest reason for me that I don't think Dean is bi. Because he says he's not, and why would he lie? (1/2)
(2/2) Dean loves sex, he’s not blatantly homophobic, & his closest family, Sam and Cas, both are explicitly accepting of same-sex relationships. If Dean’s slept with guys, why not mention it? Except that the show isn’t ready to have a bi male protagonist. If you want to argue, Dean SHOULD be bi except the canon won’t let him be, yeah, agreed. But that he IS bi in canon and just closeted, or subtle, or something, is frankly giving the canon too much credit.
Same, anon, same.
Let’s be real. That meta I reblogged was incredibly biased because the conclusion it all is supposed to lead up to is: Dean is bi ergo it is totes possible that he will hook up with Cas on screen at some point.
And I would just shrug and be like you do you if it acknowledged that simple fact anywhere.
But wishful thinking does not a fact make. And it’s incredibly disingenious to on the hand use all kinds of textual examples to prove your hypothesis while leaving out the ALSO textual arguments against it. I really liked a lot of points the OP made about Dean in her meta but at the end of the day they too fell into the trap of arguing from a fixed point.
And I’m with you. I wouldn’t actually mind if Dean were bi in canon because it is 2017 and we could totally use a character like him representing for queerness.
At the end of the day the only authority on Dean Winchester’s sexuality I will accept is Dean Winchester. And until he says otherwise I will believe him when he says he doesn’t swing that way.
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I think it needs to be pointed out that there’s a difference between loving a character and being patronising towards them, some people in the SPN fandom don’t seem to realise this…especially when it comes to Dean and certain Dean meta.
yes, i’ve had enough of the pity stanning/patronizing kind of ‘meta’ about dean. how he doesn’t know what he wants, despite being the ONLY character that has solidily always been upfront about his wants, even when confused, even when struggling, the core of dean always came trhough. i’m tired of the dean these people depicts that has to ‘let sam grow’ - as if that SAME strory hasn’t been told so many times, as if it doesn’t infatilize and erases sam’s flaws/mistakes to say so putting the onus of sam’s character growth on someone else. i’m tired of the way dean gets stripped of his complexity, how his survival mechanisms, walls, coping skills with a shitty world and a shitty life, are continuosly called into question under catch phrases like ‘toxic masculinity’ or ‘performance’. as if that isn’t exactly what other main characters do (let me tell you of the level of toxic masculinity in sam and cas that nobody talks about and how it doesn’t get challenged narratively) - as dean has no right to space either inside himself neither outside because he always, always has to serve some weird narrative need that is never ultimately about dean.
So many times, this.
Well-written meta is totally my jam but I just can’t get into all the recent “Dean embodies toxic masculinity so he needs to be stripped of all his pre-existing, manly qualities to become authentic” (which usually translates to some neutered version of Dean where he is just soft and cuddly and emotes all the time.) But what’s wrong with Dean being “authentically Dean” in all his totality? The guy who likes both hard rock and REO, muscle cars and cooking, plaid shirts and a nice suit. An authentic character can still be complex - they just understand and accept themselves in their complexity.
Maybe that’s why I’ve had such an intensely visceral reaction to those same metas also celebrating what they see as Dean’s permanent abdication of his leadership role to Sam. Yes, trusting Sam to lead the raid on the BMOL showed Dean was finally free of his conditioned “take care of Sammy” mindset. Dean’s carried that burden for long enough. But that’s different from Dean being a leader overall. Dean’s always been a great strategist with a strong intuition. He has a natural talent for inspiring others, making hard decisions, and taking charge. How would Dean suddenly becoming a follower be a good thing for his character? How would Dean now taking a backseat to Sam on hunts and passively sitting on the sidelines while the hunting community hails Sam as their great new leader make any sense? I doubt the show plans to go there but it makes me sad that anyone would want such a fate for Dean as “character growth.”
yeah, i have huge problems with the idea promoted in fandom that dean has to be stripped of so many of his aspects to become authentic dean as if dean isn’t authentic enough like he is. in a way this is tied to a conversation i’m having in a different thread, so i may be repeating myself, here, but it’s worth it. there are so many assumptions about dean’s character that clash with the reality of who he is. it’s not even about interpretation of the character but a willfull dismissal of his very valid point of view, in favor of a different character’s point of view on dean. it’s like dean has no right to his own emotions, feelings, outlook or opinion because he is considered inherently flawed and in need to be fixed. it’s weird to say the least, when for me the very concept of dean’s flaws is exactly what makes his character both relatable and interesting. it’s doubly weird when dean’s point of view, both internal and external gets completely erased in favor of an equally flawed, issues-driven point of view from other characters - usually sam or cas.
as for sam and leadership and what happened in the finale, i have such a different take on that scene and episode that it surprises me, again lol, that this is the kind of talk in fandom right now. maybe it’s time i talk about it.
This is a kind of neo-liberalism of the emotions, in which happiness is seen not as a response to our circumstances but as a result of our own individual mental effort, a reward for the deserving. The problem is not your sky-high rent or meager paycheck, your cheating spouse or unfair boss or teetering pile of dirty dishes. The problem is you.
It is, of course, easier and cheaper to blame the individual for thinking the wrong thoughts than it is to tackle the thorny causes of his unhappiness. So we give inner-city schoolchildren mindfulness classes rather than engage with education inequality, and instruct exhausted office workers in mindful breathing rather than giving them paid vacation or better health care benefits.
Source: The New York Times
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dean is not sam’s parent. dean is a parentified child. please, stop saying that dean acts like a parent to sam or that he is a parent to sam. he is not! he was parentified and this creates a messy relationship that goes both way (from dean to sam AND from sam to dean). saying that dean is a parent to sam completely erases the reality of what happened, it erases dean’s resentment for having to be something more than just a brother, it erases the fear of the responsability, the pressure of it, the scary world he had to live in since he was 4 years old and traumatized himself (and i’m not talkng about the monsters) and most of all, it erases john’s presence. it makes all the difference that dean’s parentification came from john’s actions rather than in his absence.
it is already bad that the show does it, but it is even worse seeing it parrotted in fandom acritically.
my dad guillermo laying it out
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His table is piled high with food he will never touch but he will kill you for taking the smallest morsel, even if you are starving
shit how did I completely miss the point of this part
Reblog if you are a Dean fan and hope for a Deancentric storyline in s13 where Dean gets his feelings validated with no boo hoo speeches, also he gets to be important in a way that has nothing to do with shipping, and finally he gets to be equal in saving the day….and not as some kind of “inspiration” while being beaten up or whatever.
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You want a physicist to speak at your funeral. You want the physicist to talk to your grieving family about the conservation of energy, so they will understand that your energy has not died. You want the physicist to remind your sobbing mother about the first law of thermodynamics; that no energy gets created in the universe, and none is destroyed. You want your mother to know that all your energy, every vibration, every Btu of heat, every wave of every particle that was her beloved child remains with her in this world. You want the physicist to tell your weeping father that amid energies of the cosmos, you gave as good as you got.
And at one point you’d hope that the physicist would step down from the pulpit and walk to your brokenhearted spouse there in the pew and tell him that all the photons that ever bounced off your face, all the particles whose paths were interrupted by your smile, by the touch of your hair, hundreds of trillions of particles, have raced off like children, their ways forever changed by you. And as your widow rocks in the arms of a loving family, may the physicist let her know that all the photons that bounced from you were gathered in the particle detectors that are her eyes, that those photons created within her constellations of electromagnetically charged neurons whose energy will go on forever.
And the physicist will remind the congregation of how much of all our energy is given off as heat. There may be a few fanning themselves with their programs as he says it. And he will tell them that the warmth that flowed through you in life is still here, still part of all that we are, even as we who mourn continue the heat of our own lives.
And you’ll want the physicist to explain to those who loved you that they need not have faith; indeed, they should not have faith. Let them know that they can measure, that scientists have measured precisely the conservation of energy and found it accurate, verifiable and consistent across space and time. You can hope your family will examine the evidence and satisfy themselves that the science is sound and that they’ll be comforted to know your energy’s still around. According to the law of the conservation of energy, not a bit of you is gone; you’re just less orderly. Amen.
Aaron Freeman “You Want A Physicist To Speak at your Funeral” (via wellntruly)
Jared & Gen joined the Molak family at the Texas State Capitol in support of David’s Law, a bill meant to crackdown on cyber-bullying. (Full speeches: x.x)
The Molak’s 16 year-old son, David, committed suicide last year after relentless bullying. “David’s Legacy Foundation is a 501©(3) non-profit organization dedicated to ending cyber-assisted bullying by educating communities about the harmful effects of cyber abuse, providing support for bullying victims, promoting kindness, and supporting legislation that prohibits the cyberbullying of minors.” - DavidsLegacy.org:
Making America Meaner
On the eve of his election to the House of Representatives, Montana Republican Greg Gianforte beat up Ben Jacobs, a reporter for the “Guardian" newspaper.
What prompted the violence? Jacobs had asked Gianforte for his reaction to the Congressional Budget Office’s report showing that the House Republican substitute for the Affordable Care Act would result in 23 million Americans losing their health insurance.
Then, in the words of a Fox News team who witnessed the brutal attack: “Gianforte grabbed Jacobs by the neck with both hands and slammed him into the ground behind him. … Gianforte then began punching the reporter. As Gianforte moved on top of Jacobs, he began yelling something to the effect of, ‘I’m sick and tired of this!’ Jacobs scrambled to his knees and said something about his glasses being broken…. To be clear, at no point did any of us who witnessed this assault see Jacobs show any form of physical aggression toward Gianforte, who left the area after giving statements to local sheriff’s deputies.”
After the attack, Jacobs was evaluated in an ambulance at the scene and taken to Bozeman Health Deaconess Hospital. Several hours later he left the hospital wearing a sling around his arm.
Gianforte was charged with misdemeanor assault.
Donald Trump’s reaction? In Sicily for the G-7 summit, he praised Greg Gianforte’s election as a “great win in Montana.”
For years, conservatives warned that liberals were “defining deviancy downward” by tolerating bad social behavior.
Donald Trump is actively defining deviancy downward in American politics. He’s making America meaner.
Last year, Trump said of a protester at one of his campaign rallies: “I’d like to punch him in the face.”
In a different era, when decency was the norm, House members would not seat a thug like Gianforte in the chamber. In the age of Trump, it’s okay to beat up a reporter.
Charlie Sykes, a conservative former talk-show host in Wisconsin, says “every time something like Montana happens, Republicans adjust their standards and put an emphasis on team loyalty. They normalize and accept previously unacceptable behavior.”
Gianforte’s attack on Jacobs was shameful enough. Almost as shameful was Gianforte’s press release about what occurred, written immediately afterward by his campaign spokesman, Shane Scanlon:
“Ben Jacobs entered the office without permission, aggressively shoved a recorder in Greg’s face, and began asking badgering questions. Jacobs was asked to leave. After asking Jacobs to lower the recorder, Jacobs declined. Greg then attempted to grab the phone that was pushed in his face. Jacobs grabbed Greg’s wrist, and spun away from Greg, pushing them both to the ground. It’s unfortunate that this aggressive behavior from a liberal journalist created this scene at our campaign volunteer BBQ.“
It was all a blatant lie, as confirmed by the Fox News crew that watched the whole thing. But under Trump, blatant lying is the new normal.
And a “liberal journalist” is the enemy.
Kathleen Hall Jamieson, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania’s Annenberg School for Communication, says that “by casting the press as the enemy of the American people, Donald Trump has contributed to a climate of discourse consistent with assaulting a reporter for asking an inconvenient question.”
It used to be that candidates and elected officials had a duty to answer reporters’ questions. We assumed that answering questions from the press was part of the job. We thought democracy depended on it.
But we’re now in the era of Donald Trump, who calls the press the “enemy of the American people.”
It was never the case in the United States that candidates or elected officials beat up reporters who posed questions they didn’t like. That was the kind of thing that occurred in dictatorships.
But “Trump has declared open season on journalists, and politicians and members of his Cabinet have joined the hunt.” says Lucy Dalglish, the dean of Philip Merrill College of Journalism at the University of Maryland.
More generally and menacingly, Trump has licensed the dark side of the American psyche. His hatefulness and vindictiveness have normalized a new meanness.
Since Trump came on the scene, hate crimes have soared. America has become even more polarized. Average Americans say and do things to people they disagree with that in a different time would have been unthinkable.
“I’d submit that the president has unearthed some demons,” says Rep. Mark Sanford, a Republican Representative from South Carolina. “I’ve talked to a number of people about it back home. They say, ‘Well, look, if the president can say whatever, why can’t I say whatever?’ He’s given them license.”
This is not only dangerous for our democracy. It’s also dangerous for our society. “There is a total weirdness out there,” says Sanford. “People feel like, if the president of the United States can say anything to anybody at any time, then I guess I can too. And that is a very dangerous phenomenon.”
A president indirectly sets the norms of our society. Trump is setting them at a new low.
