Do you think Tatiana Nabieva can sue for defamation?
WAG World's Qualifiers from the Asian Games
These are the last qualifiers.
Japan and China qualified teams from 2022 Worlds. They will be joined by Korea and Taiwan (who were also the teams that came out of Asia last year.
Individuals will be IRFANALUTHFI Rifda (INA), FINNEGAN Aleah (PHI), ELPITIYA BADALGE DONA Milka Gihani Devyanjala (SRI), ARIPOVA Dildora (UZB), BAUYRZHANOVA Aida (KAZ), NATHAN Nadine Joy (SGP), KVAMME Kylee Ann (PHI), and YAP Emma (SGP)
The Philippines came in 5th behind Kazakhstan. They were strong on vault beam and floor but had a disaster rotation on bars (which they already only put up 3 gymnasts). Emma Malabuyo has no path to 2023 Worlds and wouldn't have unless the Philippines qualified a full team.
Chuso also did not qualify as an AAer for Worlds. She however was already qualified as a specialist. This will narrow her chances for going to the Olympics because she is no longer able to do the AA at worlds and that is how she qualified the last time. She missed it by 2 spots.
This really highlights the pitfalls of recruiting NCAA/L10 athletes into elite. Despite having a full team of 5 for this 4 up, 3 count situation, the Philippines only put up 3 bars routines (the only full team not to put up 4 on every apparatus). They ended the subdivision there with a disastrous 5 falls. (Finnegan only dropped to the ground once but collapsing onto the bar after the first skill also counts as a fall.)
I believe Gutierrez does train in the Philippines but I included her for completion.
They all look exhausted, which is likely related to this being the last rotation, but an elite bars routine is a lot longer than NCAA or L10. It has more composition requirements. Getting a D score higher than 4 requires connecting more difficult elements. It requires a lot of endurance.
I would also suggest that it’s a reason the US elite program keeps running into a bars-shaped problem in building major teams. You’re much more likely to be able to reach into the developmental program to find a vault or floor that you can use in elite without a tremendous amount of tweaking (or to a lesser extent, beam). L10 bars being so radically different from elite means that the bars routine you need isn’t there.
I think this is actually one of the major drawbacks to the US development program sticking with the 10.0 system. Now they may have decided that the needs of the elite program shouldn't guide the developmental system which is an absolutely legitimate point of view. Most athletes in developmental wont come near an elite competition.
The problem is that FIG elite bars have now diverged/advanced pretty radically from pre-2006 bars so that they're almost different but related events. When gymnasts come out of the L10/NCAA system and into elite they seem to be missing CR more often then not. On floor and beam you can more often then not tweak or add onto these routines to get something usable in elite. But the average even "high level" NCAA bars routine would be missing CR and come with built in deductions (like squat ons as bars transitions). And just the act of replacing the squat ons makes the bars routine require more endurance even before you talk about the number of skills and connected elements just making the routines dramatically longer.
I'm deeply curious if the PHI gym fed will be putting the money into sending athletes to World Cups next year.
And if any NCAA gymnasts would be willing to travel internationally to meets that are in the middle of the NCAA season.
For reference, next year’s series:
- Cairo: Feb. 15-18
- Cottbus: Feb. 22-25
- Doha: Feb. 28-Mar. 2
- Baku: Mar. 7-10
And as is standard in order for a federation to send an athlete to a World Cup the federation would have to also send a judge or pay for a neutral judge replacement from somewhere else.
I'm deeply curious if the PHI gym fed will be putting the money into sending athletes to World Cups next year.
And if any NCAA gymnasts would be willing to travel internationally to meets that are in the middle of the NCAA season.
WAG World's Qualifiers from the Asian Games
These are the last qualifiers.
Japan and China qualified teams from 2022 Worlds. They will be joined by Korea and Taiwan (who were also the teams that came out of Asia last year.
Individuals will be IRFANALUTHFI Rifda (INA), FINNEGAN Aleah (PHI), ELPITIYA BADALGE DONA Milka Gihani Devyanjala (SRI), ARIPOVA Dildora (UZB), BAUYRZHANOVA Aida (KAZ), NATHAN Nadine Joy (SGP), KVAMME Kylee Ann (PHI), and YAP Emma (SGP)
The Philippines came in 5th behind Kazakhstan. They were strong on vault beam and floor but had a disaster rotation on bars (which they already only put up 3 gymnasts). Emma Malabuyo has no path to 2023 Worlds and wouldn't have unless the Philippines qualified a full team.
Chuso also did not qualify as an AAer for Worlds. She however was already qualified as a specialist. This will narrow her chances for going to the Olympics because she is no longer able to do the AA at worlds and that is how she qualified the last time. She missed it by 2 spots.
This really highlights the pitfalls of recruiting NCAA/L10 athletes into elite. Despite having a full team of 5 for this 4 up, 3 count situation, the Philippines only put up 3 bars routines (the only full team not to put up 4 on every apparatus). They ended the subdivision there with a disastrous 5 falls. (Finnegan only dropped to the ground once but collapsing onto the bar after the first skill also counts as a fall.)
I believe Gutierrez does train in the Philippines but I included her for completion.
They all look exhausted, which is likely related to this being the last rotation, but an elite bars routine is a lot longer than NCAA or L10. It has more composition requirements. Getting a D score higher than 4 requires connecting more difficult elements. It requires a lot of endurance.
I would also suggest that it’s a reason the US elite program keeps running into a bars-shaped problem in building major teams. You’re much more likely to be able to reach into the developmental program to find a vault or floor that you can use in elite without a tremendous amount of tweaking (or to a lesser extent, beam). L10 bars being so radically different from elite means that the bars routine you need isn’t there.
Rifda Irfanaluthfi is a pioneering gymnast from Indonesia and has a very strong chance of being the first Indonesian woman to qualify for the Olympics.
She beat former US national team gymnast Aleah Finnigan at the Southeast Asian Games taking the AA title. The reason I have been thinking about her this morning is that if you try to google the results of that competition it requires quite a lot of refinement to find anything about Irfanaluthfi while there is plenty of results with Finnigan's name in the headlines.
And today as I sat down to watch the 2023 Asian Championships and everyone was excited about the Philippines team that was stacked with 2 former US national team members (including Finnigan) and a top level L10 who had been recruited from the United States I started to gently point out that Irfanaluthfi was someone to watch. I was told that sure she beat Finnigan at the SEA games but this was a different year and that the reason people talked about Finnigan and not Irfanaluthfi was "charisma".
Well Irfanaluthfi finished the day as the top non-Chinese/non-Korean scorer in the Asian championships. One spot ahead of Finnigan but by the comparatively wide margin of .9.
Maybe the gymternet will stop treating her like an after thought or someone who only won the SEA Games AA because Finnigan lost it. I am certainly in no hope that the fandom will realize that no NCAA gymnastics is not "world class"--and in particular when talking about NCAA transitioning into elite you should ask questions about bars which are the most different between international and college gymnastics.
But for now... can appreciate this young woman.
WAG World's Qualifiers from the Asian Games
These are the last qualifiers.
Japan and China qualified teams from 2022 Worlds. They will be joined by Korea and Taiwan (who were also the teams that came out of Asia last year.
Individuals will be IRFANALUTHFI Rifda (INA), FINNEGAN Aleah (PHI), ELPITIYA BADALGE DONA Milka Gihani Devyanjala (SRI), ARIPOVA Dildora (UZB), BAUYRZHANOVA Aida (KAZ), NATHAN Nadine Joy (SGP), KVAMME Kylee Ann (PHI), and YAP Emma (SGP)
The Philippines came in 5th behind Kazakhstan. They were strong on vault beam and floor but had a disaster rotation on bars (which they already only put up 3 gymnasts). Emma Malabuyo has no path to 2023 Worlds and wouldn't have unless the Philippines qualified a full team.
Chuso also did not qualify as an AAer for Worlds. She however was already qualified as a specialist. This will narrow her chances for going to the Olympics because she is no longer able to do the AA at worlds and that is how she qualified the last time. She missed it by 2 spots.
The usual suspect on twitch is streaming WAG Asian champs. It starts 10:30 PM American East Coast Time.
Asian Championships WAG schedule: June 16
These times are local. If you’re in the western hemisphere and planning to pull an all-nighter, be advised that Singapore is 12 hours ahead of US Eastern.
I'm curious... what do people think Aleah Finnigan and Emma Malabuyo's scores will be at Asian champs... per apparatus. Give an estimate in say half a point range.
2020 Olympic Games Beam Qualification Subdivision 5
Notable gymnasts here include Andrade, Flavia, Kovacs, Moreno, as well as Team Germany and Belgium. This is the last sub we were missing from Tokyo beam qualificaiton.
We are now just missing one sub from floor and 4 subs from uneven bars.
1992 Cottbus Turnier der Meister AA - German Commentary
This is another video from the OLGA German archive diving youtube channel. We didn't have anything from 1992 Cottbus prior to this. It was held a week before 1992 Worlds in Paris in mid April.
The among notable names her are Onodi, Galieva, Hadarean, and Hristova. There is also an Ellen Berger interview at the 12.00 time stamp which is both rare and potentially the last one she gave as WTC president.
There is also footage from 1966 Worlds of Erika Zuchold doing the first back handspring on beam at worlds.
This is what we had from 1966 Worlds before this small clip and it did not include Zuchold's important beam...
A reminder that beam this is an uncovered hunk of wood.
what would happen if an olympic medal was stripped long after the medals had already been awarded and distributed and the IOC was like "you have to give it back" and the athlete(s) were like "no 🫶"
i mean i know the Official Rules say they have to give them back and the NOC is supposed to be responsible for hunting down the medalists and retrieving the medals but as we know certain NOCs are not really beacons of integrity in compliance to official rules as they are written especially not when theyre handed down from entities with no real teeth
A friend of mine who has been in positions to know such things has told me in the past that failure to return a medal will result in the NOC being suspended and there is no wiggle room about it. You don't return it you don't get to play.
jordyn's hero-to-villain arc sure has been interesting to watch lmao
re notes (for those of you not on twitter very much): nothing terribly juicy (yet.....), just that shes miss val's protégée and also a flop ass head coach leading a major ncaa program to *checks notes* zero results, and several of the arkansas gymnasts (upperclassmen particularly) have expressed disappointment in how their college careers played out and have shaded her in particular (bailey lovett most recently) lol
Agreed on all of this but it's also amusing to see a few people not understand that Jordyn's results wont matter for her job. Arkansas hired her for her gold medal and the power it as a prestige element for their athletic department. I doubt their AD cares about their record.
every time theres an elite gymnast who i think is quite mature and smart i always want them to go to cal no matter what their gymnastics looks like lmfaooooo
So funny story about that. When @darthmelyanna was writing her novel about the Athens quad one of her fictional gymnasts ends up at Cal because there is more to college than gymnastics.
1992 Cottbus Turnier der Meister AA - German Commentary
This is another video from the OLGA German archive diving youtube channel. We didn't have anything from 1992 Cottbus prior to this. It was held a week before 1992 Worlds in Paris in mid April.
The among notable names her are Onodi, Galieva, Hadarean, and Hristova. There is also an Ellen Berger interview at the 12.00 time stamp which is both rare and potentially the last one she gave as WTC president.
There is also footage from 1966 Worlds of Erika Zuchold doing the first back handspring on beam at worlds.
This is what we had from 1966 Worlds before this small clip and it did not include Zuchold's important beam...
1992 Cottbus Turnier der Meister AA - German Commentary
This is another video from the OLGA German archive diving youtube channel. We didn't have anything from 1992 Cottbus prior to this. It was held a week before 1992 Worlds in Paris in mid April.
The among notable names her are Onodi, Galieva, Hadarean, and Hristova. There is also an Ellen Berger interview at the 12.00 time stamp which is both rare and potentially the last one she gave as WTC president.
There is also footage from 1966 Worlds of Erika Zuchold doing the first back handspring on beam at worlds.
Wait I just saw that post about grace's tokyo beam composition "disaster", what does that mean? I think I must have missed something bc idgi
just stupid construction, this video has the breakdown:
this whole thing really flew under the radar during the olympics among gym fans because of The Simone Issue sucking all the air out of the room. but like. this is literally worse than kara eaker's beam structural flaw but eaker's is an eponymous fuck-up because of the reverse-inquiry kicking her out of EFs lmaooooo
Yeah, this is a case of an athlete not knowing the rules well enough to improvise as needed. McCallum knew she’d broken the connection on the leap+turn and that she needed a leap connection, but didn’t realize/remember that she couldn’t repeat a leap she’d already done and get any kind of credit for it. It’s absolutely something that she and her coach should have discussed and trained in advance so she didn’t have to remember the rules in the middle of the routine.
(And that’s leaving aside the problem of her not connecting the improvised leaps either, because that wouldn’t have gotten credit even if she hadn’t repeated an element.)
I'm just glad that they were using a non-active athlete for the judges conference for once. Grace's beam from Tokyo is a great practice for this purpose.
MAG Worlds Qualifiers out of the Asian Champs
China, Japan, and Korea qualified out of 2022 Worlds. They will be joined by Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan.
For individuals: Carlos Yulo (PHI), Vi Luong Van (VIE), Yeh Cheng (TPE), Lee Chih-Kai (TPE), Luqman Al Hafiz Zulfa (MAS), Usukhbayar Erkhembayar (MGL)
The big surprise here is that Taiwan failed to qualify a team when there was significant daylight between them and Uzbekistan at 2022 Asian champs.
World medalist Ahmad Abu Al Soud of Jordan I believe has qualified for Worlds by moving up in World Cup points on pommel horse by virtue of others qualifying here.
This is the last qualifying event for 2023 Worlds which will be the first qualifying event for the 2024 Olympic Games.






