still mad about losing all those hearts in the intro. you know how hard i worked for those in botw you beef jerky body ass bitch? the second i see this mf again i’m slapping his wig off
if you just headcanon as ace the only canonically gay character and/or the disabled character maybe you're just being homophobic and ableist. maybe you just find gross the idea of disabled people desiring and being desired. maybe you can't imagine disabled people having nothing but pure thoughts. maybe you're disgusted by the idea of the queer experience not being potrayed as pure and innocent as you made up in your head. and let me tell you that i don't fucking care about your "discomfort" because discomfort is what queer and disabled people feel every day for people like you
Caleb McLaughlin on Billy being terrible
I wish Lucas says in S5 how Billy’s racism affected on him. I hate that they show this kind of violent scenes without focusing on Lucas’s mental health afterwards. It’s also frustrating how the show itself doesn’t acknowledge that Billy was racist cause till this day his white fans are saying he wasn’t,that he was just misunderstood.
this being the kid called buff n treated like fuckin rambo or wtvr just tells me that u ppl r so detached from irl teen boys. prob never even seen one idk. just a guess
news flash, even lanky men have visible muscles
Not to bring hosegate back but... what if I said that it being intentional and meaning that Mike is in fact attracted to Will is actually one of the biggest byler proof out there?
NO LITERALLY ANON. IT’S ONE OF THE BIGGEST FUCKING BYLER EASTER EGGS IN ST4.
Like the framing and shot swapping is set up in a way that can only indicate physical attraction. [face in hands] Like are you fucking kidding me? An updward shot of Mike holding a hose…and then Will turns it on?
Will turns him on. That’s what that means. Dear God…can we please just acknowledge it. 😭
Will and Mike are going to be older than Steve and Nancy were in ST1 when we see them in ST5. Nancy was a sophomore. She’s 3 years older than Mike, who was 12.
She was 15. Steve was 16. He was older than her.
Byler turns 15 either during or within days of ST4. They’re even the same age…and they’re not even having sex. It’s a scene with an innuendo. That’s it.
Somehow it’s fine for stancy to actually have sex at byler’s age, but when we so much as dare to acknowledge that Mike has physical attraction to Will via use of an innuendo…Well. Not to sound joker-fied, but society loses its mind. The double standard for heterosexual vs homosexual couples drives me insane.
That is to say: Group the hose scene with Rink-o-Mania and the second heart-to-heart…THOSE SHOULD BE THE BIG BYLER TRIAD FROM ST4!!! THOSE SHOULD BE THE BYLER BIBLE!!!
But the iconic hose scene isn’t allowed there, no one wants to put it as byler proof even if it’s arguably one of the most damning scenes, simply because some very vocal tumblr users couldn’t pull their heads out of their asses about it back in 2022.
Wild to me.
I love it when pre Original Trilogy era shows how much effort went into making the Death Star. It took decades, literal decades, and it took so much money and so many people and it was such a secretive thing and it’s staffed by millions because it’s the size of a small moon.
I cannot express how much all of the added information makes it so much funnier that Luke blew it up.
Luke destroys literally everything Palpatine built. He blows up the Death Star, which was referenced in universe as early as the second movie. He blew up the weapon of mass destruction twenty years in the making. And he blew it up pretty much directly after it’s first and only successful attack. It was operational for fifteen minutes, fifteen minutes that Palpatine had the thing he’d been building for longer than Luke has been alive, and Luke blows it up. First day retirement, but first hour retirement.
Luke convinces Darth Vader to turn back to the light side, a feat thought literally impossible by literally everybody. Sidious clearly doesn’t see Vader’s betrayal coming. Vader’s betrayal was not in his plans, nor was it something he was prepared for. Sidious is a powerful Force user with all four limbs while Vader is a man in the tin can Palpatine put him in. If Palpatine had seen Vader turning coming, he would not have allowed it to happen.
Luke literally should not even be alive. Palpatine almost definitely got Padme out of the way on purpose, and he almost certainly was trying for her unborn child as well (there was way too big of a risk that a cute liddol bebe would bring some humanity back to Anakin, and Palpatine did not want Anakin to have any humanity) Luke living is literally the first step in Palpatine’s ultimate downfall, especially once Vader finds out that Luke is his son. His very alive son. His son that is not dead, despite Palpatine claiming Anakin killed Padme. Implying that Anakin killed Padme and she posthumously gave birth. But, she didn’t give birth on Mustafar, which was the last place Anakin interacted with her. And once the mother dies, you have to get those fuckers out fast or they die too.
I imagine Darth Vader piecing all of this together is that meme with all the math floating around his head, because how could Padme have died by his hand and then given birth like two hours later?
Luke killing Palpatine is what ultimately leads to the dissolution of the Empire as an omnipotent entity. Luke killed the Empire. Luke spends a good amount of his adult life killing Empire remnants. We see that in the Mandalorian, since he’s so recognizable that Gideon immediately knows he’s fucked just by seeing an X-wing. We read it in Legends’ continuity, where Luke terrifies Imperials because he can walk into their changing room and stand in their for a minute and they don’t even notice.
Luke destroyed Palpatine’s life’s work. Everything Palpatine spent his whole life working towards, and Luke kills all of it. He blows up not one, but two Death Stars (he may not have pulled the trigger on the second Death Star, but without him, it never would have been destroyed). He convinces not one, but multiple Sith and Dark Jedi to return from the Dark Side. He is the only reason that Obi-Wan Kenobi, the biggest pain in Palpatine’s ass ever born, lives long enough to make it to the Death Star.
Palpatine went through so much effort. And just when he had finally won, when he finally had a weapon capable of destroying entire planets with a single blast, making it impossible for any planets or peoples to go against him, Luke shows up nineteen years late to the Jedi party with space Starbucks and a droid twice his age and almost singlehandedly destroys everything Palpatine ever had a hand in creating.
Luke manages to become even worse than Obi-Wan Kenobi, the ultimate thorn in the side of politicians, and Luke doesn’t even understand any politics. He wasn’t trained in diplomacy like Obi-Wan and Leia, no, he’s a farmboy who left home for the first time in his entire life, just this morning. And he is the one to destroy the Empire.
If they rewrote Star Wars and had it entirely from Palpatine’s perspective, Luke Skywalker would be his greatest foe. Luke Skywalker would be the final boss. Luke Skywalker is the antithesis of everything Palpatine believes in and he is the one character that Palpatine cannot predict. He isn’t as moldable as Anakin, he doesn’t respond to threats very well, he’s apparently impossible to kill via Force lightning (still the funniest scene of all times, the progression of Palpatine’s face falling and him looking like “what the fuck??? Is this kid rubber??? I’ve electrocuted him eight times???”), his unwavering faith in his father’s goodness makes Darth Vader want to be a better person, Luke Skywalker is the big bad of Palpatine’s story and—
There is nothing in this world that is funnier than someone’s biggest antagonist being Luke fucking Skywalker. Luke Skywalker, who saved the galaxy with the power of love and who shouldn’t exist, by Jedi rules and by Palpatine’s own attempts, and whose best friends are literally droids, which Palpatine canonically hates!
Everything about this is hilarious, this is the funniest thing in all of media, Palpatine loses absolutely everything to some backwater farmboy who fucking likes droids.
my unpopular st opinion is that in canon most of the characters are not queer
this is why characters like will, robin, and mike feel so isolated
because while they have people who love and care for them, they don't fully understand them and they are different
if i don't get Robin and Mike finally talking to each other and then Robin basically adopting Mike like this in s5 then i don't want it
🎶Its raining men elmax hallelujah it's raining men elmax. 🎶
This is going to be ranty and I've touched on this subject before. So if you're a Steve worshipper look away. For the record, I love his character but I cannot stand the constant mischaracterization of him. It turns him into a joke. He's not a mom and the comparison is frankly sexist not to mention shows how much people are willing to overlook with regard to his character. Joyce does triple the amount of work and is an actual mom, so if you want to praise someone for being a mom look to the real one. Instead she gets practically ignored by the fandom. Steve does the bare minimum compared to a lot of people and gets worshipped, and the result of this is that people end up turning him into a 1 dimensional version of himself. He has flaws and it's important to acknowledge them. He's far more interesting and relatable this way. Without doing that he gets turned into a god-like figure who is infallible. But the worst of this is the constant erasure of Jonathan. I keep seeing posts saying that Steve would be such an amazing mentor to Will and how wonderful their relationship will be next season. Be for fucking real. They don't have a relationship and never will and Will doesn't need him. Not to mention the fact that Steve isn't a mentor. He is a peer. And only to Dustin, Lucas, Max, and Erica who are the only kids who are shown to have any kind of relationship with him. And honestly Dustin is the only one that isn't superficial. It's especially notable in the case of Mike that they never developed a relationship. It shows that not only are Mike and Nancy not that close, but her ex-boyfriend never bonded with him. Mike tends to respond to Steve with the same contempt he has for his father in the brief moments we've seen between the two.
It's Jonathan who is an ally to Will. It's Jonathan Will and Mike trust. It's Jonathan Mike has known since he was 5. And it's Jonathan who has constantly protected them. Neither one of them have a relationship with Steve. All of these characters have been on the show since the beginning. If Steve had a major impact on any of their lives they would have shown it by now. And yes, Steve is no longer the bullying asshole he once was. He has gone through a great character arch that has shown him growing and changing in a realistic way. However, he still has a lot to learn and this was demonstrated through his shitty advice to Robin early in the season. Him dismissing her fears of asking Vickie out was not ok and shows he doesn't fully understand her point of view. Just because he ended up being right at the end doesn't excuse the fact that he told her to just ask Vickie out simply because she paused a movie at a certain time. He could have very easily been wrong and it was valid that she was hesitant.
Steve used to bully people for being gay, and again, it's good that he doesn't do this anymore and has grown. But this is the version of Steve that Will, Mike, and Jonathan know. They know the version of him that called Jonathan the f word and said his brother deserved to die. They know the version of him that said their abusive father was right. Mike and Will are not coming out to Steve.
You just had to be there. Iconic moment
PICREW + QUIZ TAG GAME — [ original post ]
i found this really cool challenge on here and i wanted to share it with you (with an extra suprise)
THE RULES. —
1. take the quiz,
2. do the picrew,
3. take this quiz aswel,
4. reblog this post with your results and tag whoever u think would enjoy this challenge too!
MY RESULTS. —
the first quiz is one 90 procent accurate lol🤞and i tried to make it look like gyaru make up but it just looks like i have white circles under my eyes! and the second quiz is not totally wrong but i don’t really enjoy attention irl and i never heard i was narcissistic before but i do think i’m an attention seeker online, also i never had a lover T^T
SOME OF MY LOVELY MOOTS. — @coquetteky @bluehwale-main @ari-shipping-stuff @sweatyjeans @sunoo-bby @rieuvie @leo-seonghwa @girls4cheol and whoever feels inclined to do it too!!
I stole the open tag @alltimefail left because I wanted to see what I got and…I was not disappointed lmao.
these two descriptions combined have me sounding like the creelarke love child because it’s definitely giving traumatized antagonist meets the human encyclopedia lmao 😂 I’d say they’re fairly accurate tho, given they’re pretty general tests.
NO PRESSURE TAGGING: @bonesofjelly, @ice-sculptures, @foodiewithdahoodie, @bylrndgm, @magentamee, @henrysglock and literally anyone who wants to do it! I stole an open tag and so should you 😂
(re: your 3rd image) marie??? if there was ever a quiz result for you— *me blessed+dead on the floor with several source links, photos, an article, and ur WIP analysis on any given subject*
yesss write queer shippy fanfic of me pls i bEG!! the more deranged the better!! and to be clear im split and did this quiz like eight times and got these last ones equally so. og self and matured self. i'll take a combination of the two 💕
TAGGING ZERO PRESSURE: @mandycantdecide @likegoldintheair @howtobecomeadragon @perexcri @talkingtothelights + everyone who wants to! these are fun
ahh bre thanks for the tag 💖 this one was fun!
i look basic and i'm all over the place, but i wouldn't have it any other way 💁🏼♀️
"gets frustrated at people that can't decide" yeah i get upset at myself lmao 🤭
tagging (no pressure ofc): @likegoldintheair @ice-sculptures @wllbyers @grapehyasynth @cockychateau @beeloved @howtobecomeadragon @googoogagaeyes @kittykat940 and anyone else that wants to do this <3
hehe very fun, thank you for the tags!!! @magentamee and @mandycantdecide
no pressure tagging: @wheelersboy @cleradinel @dinitride-art @foodiewithdahoodie @daydreams-in-the-moonlight @bonesofjelly and anyone else!!
Ayyy this was fun! Thanks for tagging @howtobecomeadragon and @emblazons :))
oooh this is cute and fun!! ty for tagging me!!
I’m gonna leave it as an open tag—anyone who sees this and wants to do it consider yourself tagged by me 💜
🤔 😶fish.
Not even sea fish, he is not supposed to be there
I hate Gandalf big naturals because he deserves wrinkly, saggy, old person boobs.
Yeah? Yeah!!
y’all he clearly had plastic surgery to give himself those plush pillows. You’re really gonna shame a man doing what feels good to him?
Gandalf deserves the perkiest tits in all of Middle Earth
But then they’re his big artificials
Gandalf is a wizard and a divine spirit and he can have whatever kind of titties he fucking wants.
Also 1) images of Gandalf with older/saggier tits exist and 2) If you want more, nothing’s stopping you from making them yourself
I won’t have any goddamn Gandalf Big Naturals disrespect in my tower. Now put an old wizard titty in your mouth and shut up
OK, I’m sorry Gandalf.
A wizard is never too saggy nor too perky, he has precisely the boobs he means to.
that’s so wise
official boob post
christopher bursk, “ovid at fifteen” (2003) // david álvarez, “metamorpho” (2021), “agony” (2021)
Will Byers' Coming of Age Horror Story
Today I wanna predict Will's storyline in season 5 using horror genre tropes.
What's interesting about Will is that he often falls under tropes that are typically associated with female characters.
In season one he's the dead girl. He's Laura Palmer. He's the face of innocence that goes missing/dies and kicks off the story.
In season two, he's the possessed girl. He's Regan MacNeil. It's the irony of evil inside of the face of innocence.
Now, in season three he isn't given as much attention, so pinpointing what kind of trope he follows is hard to do. However, with season four we are given insight into what that trope is. Season four is a little different because he actually takes on a teen drama/romcom trope instead of a horror one. He's the girl next door, he's Joey Potter from Dawson’s Creek.
He's the childhood best friend who get's involved in the love triangle between the Main Guy and the Cool Girl. We see glimmers of this in season three, but it doesn't become especially clear that this is what they were going for until they lean into Will's feelings in season four.
So then, what does this mean for Will's arc moving forward? Will season five follow the pattern of female tropes? If so, which trope will they go with?
Some important information we are already given about season five is that this is going to be Will's coming of age. We've had this confirmed a few times by the Duffer Brothers.
Given the nature of the show, it wouldn't be out there to assume that his coming of age is going to be explored through a supernatural element. In fact, supernatural coming of age horrors are actually pretty common, especially female supernatural coming of horrors.
These types of films typically explore coming of age through some kind of supernatural and/or horrific element, usually in quite the gruesome and violent way. While these films will explore a broad spectrum of different subject matter regarding coming of age, sexuality and sexual awakening is usually a point of discussion. Sexuality and either supernatural and/or horror elements run adjacent to each other, and sex is typically associated with violence. IE lycanthropy in Ginger Snaps, cannibalism in Raw, demonic possession in Jennifer's Body, Nina’s transformation in Black Swan etc.
The reason for this is because female sexuality is usually demonized. It's seen as something as horrific and monstrous, and as such this trope is often associated with queerness. Films that follow this formula are typically seen as queer coded, or even include blatant queerness (see Jennifer's Body or Black Swan)
So now we have a character like Will, whose sexuality is already demonized in universe, going through his own coming of age narrative in a supernatural horror show.
What would be an effective and streamlined way to showcase coming of age and queerness in a way that also coincides with the nature of the show and even goes along with the lore?
I know that with the limited number of episodes, there comes the reasonable concern of being able to squeeze in so many different storylines and themes in such a short amount of time. I get it, it's my main problem with season 3. How are they going to find the time to adequately explore themes relating to Will's sexuality, while also having to wrap up all of the loose ends regarding the supernatural plot?
Easy, you do what the above examples did, and make Will's sexuality and his connection to the supernatural the same plot.
It's not like they would have to reinvent the story in order to do this, they've already been setting up clues for this exact storyline.
In season one, Will's rumors of Will's queerness is pretty widespread among the town, it's one of the suspected reasons for why he went missing. His queerness is already being correlated with supernatural from the very start.
As I've said before, coming of age horrors usually explore sexuality through of lens of something supernatural. It’s not that the supernatural plot takes the place of Will’s sexuality, but rather these two plotlines run together to aid each other, and the supernatural plot can express ideas relating to his sexuality in a more metaphorical way.
So then, how could Will’s burgeoning sexuality be explored in a supernatural way, that fits within the universe of the show?
His powers
@therainscene already has a great post discussing how Will’s powers are his queerness, I reccomend reading it because they explain a lot of the same points that I’m going to but in a much better way than I ever could. Although I wanna point out this point they make at the end—
I would go as far to say that this is what the show bas been building toward the entire time. Think about how many elements of Will’s storyline matches up with both his sexuality AND powers:
- Being taken in season one (the town believed it was because of his sexuality, when really Vecna could have taken him for his powers)
- Bullied by his peers (being called Zombie Boy for his experience in the UD and other slurs for his sexuality)
- Powers/sexuality being seen as mental illness (his true sight visions being misinterpreted as flashbacks)
- Repression of both powers and sexuality
- Castration (Soteria effectively being a conversion tactic for powers)
- Stigmatization (the town sees both the supernatural and homosexuality as satanic)
- And finally, acceptance (neither Will’s powers nor his sexuality are horrific, but a beautiful thing to be embraced)
Here’s what Will’s storyline looks like written out:
Will is initially targeted for his sexuality/powers (season one) and he is to be judged by his peers for his sexuality/supernatural experience, and his sexuality/powers are thought of to be a mental illness (season two). His sexuality/powers remain repressed (season three) until they are slowly revealed to the audience (season four) and he finally accepts and embraces his sexuality/powers in the end (season five).
If we follow a typical storyline from a coming of age horror along with what we know about the show, here’s my rough prediction for Will’s s5 arc:
- Post time skip, Will is beginning to come into his sexuality more and more but it’s difficult given the external environment
- Will has an awakening of powers emblematic of his sexual awakening
- Owens + the government tries to “cure” Will of his powers by getting rid of them (I’m going to make a post in the future elaborating more on just this point)
- In the beginning, the powers bring a lot of complications and strife (he would likely be targeted for having them, and may not like having them himself)
- In the end though, Will comes to embrace the powers he was given as a wonderful, beautiful thing, and they are what helps save the day
Now, some may notice a discrepancy between Will’s storyline and the coming of age horrors I talked about prior, and that’s the idea that Will will have a much more positive end than the female protagonists I discussed. Although, the show has a much different tone and different message than the films above. While those films usually go for the tragic angle, I don’t think the show about uplifting outcasts and wierdos is going to end with the gay kid dying.
I also don’t think that the show is going to try to portray Will as a villain. I think it’s possible that other characters may see him as a villain, but once again, given the shows message, I don’t think the gay kid is going to turn evil. Like I said before, I think Will is going to learn that his powers are actually quite a beautiful thing, just like his sexuality, and learn to embrace it.
tagging: @downbytheriversside











