If I hear one more person judge Jere for something that happened in the books, but hasn’t even happened on the show yet, I will scream!! Let’s not act like if Jeremiah hadn’t set off those fireworks Belly wouldn’t have kissed Conrad while she was already talking to Cam. Do we just pretend that Conrad also wasn’t already talking to (and apparently other things considering the condoms Belly found in his room) Nicole. Let’s not act like Belly didn’t kiss Conrad when she knew damn well she had already started something with Jeremiah. And, yes, I get that Conrad and Belly weren’t in official relationships but it was okay for them to kiss others while talking to other people? Especially Conrad, because wasn’t he talking to Nicole for a little bit? You could see how hurt she was that he tried to play her with Belly. I’m just saying y’all like to call Jere a cheater (when him and Belly were on a break, but I’m going to leave that alone) but have no problem when Belly and Conrad just play with other people’s feelings like theirs are the only ones that are important. But I guess screw other people as long as Belly and Conrad are happy. (I’m going to hurl, I swear)
"Carpe Diem, Flavia"
I seriously hope that Cam will find someone who will cherish him forever. I don't know about you guys but for me he is the best boy and taylor wrote the lyrics "He's charming and endearing and I'm comfortable" for Cam- Cameron.
Am I the only one who's not team Conrad
PSA: I just finished the second book
The way Conrad treats Belly compared to Jer is crazy, and the fact she always goes back to Conrad is even worse.
I've hear a lot of people say Jer only loves the idea of having something that Conrad doesn't but in my opinion he truly does loves her.
Conrad might think he loves Belly but he doesn't show it in the way she needs him to. Prime example is the prom scene. Conrad made everything worse at Bellys prom before he even got there with the phone call. Belly practically had to make up a lie so he could come. But when Jer said he could've done it better he really could, even Belly was thinking about how much better her prom could have been with Jer being there instead of Conrad.
There are so many reasons why Jer had always been the right choice like...
-The whole movie scene in the first book when Jer and Belly went to the movies together and Belly thought they were gonna kiss
-In the first book when Jer taught Belly how to drive and always let her drive when they were going somewhere together
-In the second book it was said that Jer had to stay in with Belly when she was sick instead of playing with his friends but he had fun doing it.
And those were just childhood memories with Jer. Bellys memories with Conrad aren't good either.
Example: Conrad took belly to the peer and she was excited to spend time with just them two alone but instead his whole plan had been to talk to a girl and Belly ended up crying in the end.
But don't get me wrong Conrad and Belly do have a few cute moment's together.
Example: Conrad had drove to Bellys house and brought her back to cousins and they had that whole night to themselves. He then told Belly he didn't want to do anything more than kiss because he didn't want things to change between the two of them, or all the memories with Conrad teaching Belly to dance. But that's really all they had.
Cam Cameron was better than both brother's combined. He really truly loved
This is proved when he remembered the exact color dress she had on when he first saw her. He even went on to say he was even gonna mess up his speech on purpose for her when they were kids. Keep in mind this is when Belly still had glasses and braces.
Before belly had gotten contacts and grown into a teen none of the boys even thought of her in that way but Cam did.
Cam even went as far as to ask her if she still wanted to talk when the summer ended and she had said yes. But the moment she left she never spoke to him again, they were in a relationship and instead of ending it Belly never spoke to him again.
IDK I just read both of the books today and had no one to talk to about it so there's my little rant.
I don't give a fuck about whomever you are shipping Belly with but if you come at my boy Cam- Cameron I will curse you.
This ain’t no cozy campfire, honey. This is the freaking Fourth of July.
Gavin, always looking sharp with a splash of pink!
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Belly is a bad person how does nobody see that
Okay let's wake it up!!!!! Belly does entirely tew fucking much
There's just no way you guys are framing that conversation between Jeremiah and Conrad at the table as respectful regardless of who's side ur on PLEASE. Time and place!!! Conrad shows up in the middle of Jere sorting out Suzannah's medical bills and starts talking abt their dating lives??? And then immediately starts dumping his feelings for Belly onto his brother. At best Conrad is completely oblivious to how Jere feels abt everything and is caught up in his own grief n heartbreak which is understandable although unintentionally hurtful n shortsighted. At worst Conrad essentially guilt tripped his brother into giving him his blessing to date the girl they've both been in love with at arguably one of the worst possible times. Either way that was not the time or place for that conversation to be had
#the summer i turned pretty#im more inclined to believe Conrad absolutely knew how Jere felt n essentially didn't care tbh based on the writing and acting#It was very obvious Jere was not over everything from the previous summer Conrad read the room!!#grain of salt tho this was told from Jere's pov so there's prob context we're missing#team jeremiah#team conrad#tsitp#tsitp spoilers
Gavin Casalegno as Jeremiah Fisher in The Summer I Turned Pretty 1x05 | Summer Catch
i think what makes me so crazy about sydcarmy in particular is that it's somehow simultaneously a marriage and a slow burn. it's SO complex. different facets of their mutual attraction and compatibility are constantly developing at different speeds, hence the ambiguity of how they can be read.
their commitment to opening the restaurant as the two most qualified and senior workers is their "marriage," or as the show puts it, their "partnership." i don't think it's reaching to say that sydney is carmy's "work wife" and his first and foremost commitment while they're trying to start up the bear in season 2. so even though claire is literally his girlfriend, she is still metaphorically the "other woman" in his relationship with sydney.
sydney is jealous of carmy's relationship with claire, but not in a romantic way (at least not totally or not openly). she is quite reasonably upset that he continues to blow off restaurant work and by extension her to hang out with claire. carmy's behavior confirms the warnings of all sydney's past mentors and coworkers that he is untrustworthy. it also plays into classic tropes of infidelity--missed commitments, coming "home" (to the restaurant) late, lack of communication etc. and the final straw before she confronts him is the revelation that he's been working on the menu with claire.
the menu was supposed to be sydney and carmy's project and their passion for/knowledge of food is what makes their bond unique. so of course sydney feels betrayed. but where it gets really messy is the fact that carmy not only denies that claire has worked on the menu with him but also that he is in a relationship with her.
at this point carmy and sydney are blatantly conflating the restaurant and its success with their personal relationship. while they are not literally dating, they are exclusively committed to each other. he becomes incensed when she is upset with him and constantly seeks her feedback on how to do better (happy wife happy life, anyone?). his contentment literally depends on thoughts of her, and she is essential to his vision of the restaurant.
and that's all to say nothing of the minor flashes of physicality we got in this season--them working alone in his apartment, fixing the table, signing to each other, the proximity during their fight in front of everyone. it's WAY behind what all is going on between them emotionally and intellectually. it's so precarious and layered. sydcarmy until the day i die tbh
This was one of my favorite moments between Carmy and Sydney.
Sydney is working expo. She is struggling. If you watch the beginning of episode 10, she is staying calm, but her voice is quaky. She does not sound 100% confident or in the moment. We have seen her command the kitchen before and run the pass but the energy from her feels different this time. Things start to heat up and she is feeling the pressure.
She tells Carmy, “I’m feeling a little, uh, swamped here. Do you want to switch with me?”
It’s quick but if you watch closely, Carmy looks up at her face and into her eyes, twice. He looks at her deeply and makes an assessment before responding. It’s as if he’s checking her and thinking, wait is she actually ok? She’s not sweating, she’s not shaking, she doesn’t look like she’s going to be sick. It is only after he makes this assessment and he knows that she’s ok that he responds. She’s alright and that means he can encourage her to keep going.
He speaks in a calm, low, gently encouraging voice and tells her, “No, no, no, no, no. You’re good. You’re good. No, no, you’re fine. Let’s go though. Keep going.”
In this moment, despite how he might feel about the way she’s running the line, if he had given in and switched with her, this would have meant letting her fail. He promised her earlier he wouldn’t let that happen—“I won’t let you.”
He tries to get Tina to help but she can’t. His voice rises in concern when he tries to get Marcus to help her. In this moment I really felt like he understood how much she needed help but he will not pull her off the line or trade spots with her because he wants to keep his promise to her and he wants her to prevail.
It’s a small scene, a quick look that could have gone unnoticed, but there was so much behind the way he looked at her to check her well being, and the way he spoke to her, gently and encouragingly, in this moment that it really sticks out to me in a beautiful way.
You can feel how he cares for her, and wants to protect her but also how much he believes in her and truly wants her to succeed.
I wish I had a picture to go with this, but I just figured out why that scene with Carmy showing Sydney his drawings of the menu is so crushing. I mean, Sydney's upset that he worked on the menu with Claire, who Sydney doesn't know, who isn't a chef or even part of the restaurant. And we feel that for her.
But Christopher Storer did something else with that whole line. He didn't share the scenes between Carmy and Claire with the audience. They don't exist. Like Claire they're not real. The pictures, the menu only exists with Sydney with the betrayal she feels by Carmy working on her thing with that girl. But we as a audience missed out too. We don't ever see him draw. That's all in the past or with Claire.
At the same time, the only drawings shown are for the restaurant, the thing Carmy shares with Sydney and the audience. Which doubles down on the effect of both the reveal and the betrayal. It's a fabulous and manipulative use of show vs tell. wow.
i think the thing that really pisses me off about jeremy saying that syd and carmy have a “beautiful platonic friendship” is that it really feels like he’s diminishing those of us who do see them as being romantic to just being “delusional” fans who are just distorting what was literally shown to us on screen.
whether it’s intentional or not, he’s actively giving people who are sooo hellbent on hating our community more reason to do so and i hate that.
this is a fictional show, stop trying to promote how we (apparently) should be seeing carmy & syd. it isn’t a “this” or “that” or “right” or “wrong” issue because all we’re doing is enjoying the content given to us.
and yeah, sure, he’s probably trolling, but he’s still giving leeway to ppl to come and attack folks for seeing them romantically by not being open about discussing how they are along with talking about their friendship.
anyways, yes they have a beautiful platonic friendship and i apologize for ever even daring to see them as being romantic despite the many parallels/contrasts of their relationship being healthier to carm’s (doomed-from-the-start) relationship with claire, the vast difference between his relationship with syd compared to literally any other character in the show he interacts with, and the love songs that played during some of their more intimate scenes. im deeply sorry and i’ll do better next time in closing my eyes /s