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t4tleon

Autistic lesbians deserve to be in relationships that accept their stims(no matter how “weird” they are) and will be there when they melt down, or be patient with when when they go nonverbal!

if you’re an autistic lesbian you deserve love and happiness

#ah
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babedur

Malak: Are you sure we should go into this ruin? We’ll probably be exiled by the Jedi if we–

Revan: *already opening door*

Malak: Alright guess I’ll go fuck myself then.

#i love them#kotor
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thejgatsbykid

“Writing and reading xyz means you condone it in real life!” Holy SHIT what are we gonna do about Stephen King that bastard’s been out here condoning murder and shit since 19-fuckity-whenever!!!!!

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inexplicableshame

as a tumblr post this is well constructed and snappy, A+ well done HOWEVER as a contribution to the discourse I’m kind of exhausted by it, like

  1. Stephen King doesn’t write about murder like it’s sexy hot business with no consequences Stephen King is writing horror stories like that’s his genre it’s horror fiction he’s not writing murderotica he’s writing ‘son, I hate to tell you this but it’s pterodactyls from the dawn of time and they ate your mom’s face and they’re coming for this supermarket’. nobody reading It is going to come away with the impression that we should all aspire to be that sewer-dwelling spiderclown.
  2. so, there is a debating style that involves taking a real concern the other side has voiced and reducing it to what you believe is the briefest and most ridiculous way of phrasing what they’re saying in order to make it ~obvious~ to ~anyone with half a brain~ that the other side’s argument is ~absurd~ and it’s called ‘being a dick’ and that’s what’s happened here like for the most part, nobody is literally saying an unqualified argument of ‘writing and reading xyz means you condone it in real life’. but congrats, reducing their valid concerns to that definitely makes them sound hysterical and lacking in credibility, which as we all know is more important than actually addressing concerns or formulating real counterarguments
  3. because the concern isn’t ‘writing and reading about xyz means you approve of xyz irl’ it’s ‘uncritical and inappropriately flagged writing of xyz can lead to a general reinforcing or normalising of xyz in real life that could be harmful for you, the writer, or you, the reader, because it’s really important to examine what we write and read and think about it not just in the context of this one fic that was super hot but in the wider context of why do I like writing or reading about this and what impact does it have on my life outside of fandom because nothing exists in a vacuum from real life and what you write, read, see or hear anywhere contributes to your experience everywhere else’
  4. and it doesn’t matter how many times people try to tell me ‘that’s ridiculous, reading fic that romanticises abusive sex couldn’t possibly contribute to anyone’s real sex life we all know better’ because as a teenager I read fic that romanticised abusive sex and went out to find men who would match up to what I had been reading. like that’s my literal life a thing I literally for real did. nobody wrote warnings at the top of those fics to say ‘I’m writing this to cope with $stuff or to get this out of my head or because it’s hot to me BUT this is a BAD RELATIONSHIP with BAD OPINIONS and you should not be looking for this thing in real life because it will fuck you up, don’t do it’. and it’s nice and all to say ‘we all know better’ but I was a messed up abuse victim and I DIDN’T. PEOPLE DON’T. the people who don’t or once upon a time didn’t and were hurt by exactly this are the people saying ‘please tag your shit appropriately and warn for stuff and explain that this is UNHEALTHY AND NOT OKAY EVEN IF IT’S HOT and think about what you’re writing and reading’ and you’re literally reducing their stories, and my story, to ‘god imagine if someone reading James Herbert’s The Fog thought being in Bournemouth ACTUALLY MEANT you had to drown yourself, lmao’. 
  5. like why does it matter so much to y’all to discredit this shit why is everyone so committed to ridiculing this and getting all up on your ‘we should be able to do whatever we want it’s only fandom’ high horses I don’t get it
  6. fandom doesn’t exist in a vacuum! why does everyone want to avoid taking any kind of responsibility to think about what they’re doing? WHEN WAS THINKING CRITICALLY ABOUT YOURSELF AND YOUR ACTIONS EVER A BAD THING, LITERALLY EVER
  7. I’ve been up since half past four so this point was going to be my next point but instead I’m going to go and watch some reality tv and try to heal myself from getting mad abOUT THIS BULLSHIT YET AGAIN
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cursedtruth

Yes.

While I’m old school and a huge believer in “don’t like, don’t read,” there are caveats to that. Firstly that you tag stuff, so people know if the thing that they don’t like is in your fic, and thus know to avoid it.

But secondly I will always have deeper issues with the argument “It’s fiction! It’s not that I ACTUALLY condone rape/incest/abuse/child porn!” Because if you are framing any of those things in a sexy or romantic light, people will internalize that. You may actually be doing it yourself, and you just don’t want to admit it because simultaneously you know that it’s a Bad Thing in real life.

But the point is, humans are not hatched fully-grown and with complete knowledge of what is and is not good for them. These are things humans learn. They learn these things through human interaction and through the consumption of media. If you understand the importance of representation, you understand the influence of narratives and media.

So you want to write stories about fathers raping their sons, and you wanna present it as sexy and desirable, you need to be prepared for the damage it can do. (And before anyone tries to tell me I’m exaggerating with my example, I walked out of a panel at a convention because the panelists and audience members were happily gushing about that very subject and how hot it is). Your excuse of it being fiction is a weak one, because you are romanticizing something, which can not only normalize it but also mislead people into thinking it’s a good thing. Like with inexplicableshame’s personal experience. Or like how people who didn’t know better thought Bella and Edward had an ideal relationship. Or how people who don’t know better think 50 Shades is hot BDSM and something to want for themselves, instead of realizing it’s not BDSM but obsessiveness and abuse and something to be avoided at all costs.

Everyone doesn’t magically know better.

Depicting the aforementioned subjects as anything other than what they truly are (reprehensible and traumatizing) can and will be seen by some as endorsement.

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suuvesi

check out this absolutely godawful album title i had to see at the record store today

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if you go through the notes the members of this band found the post and are taking shots at their ex drummer who is also in the notes responding to them

if you don’t wanna scroll through 7000+ notes to find the discourse, here it is presented in screenshot form

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additionally: “my fursona is a glock” and “things are most beautiful just as they’re about to end” for your listening pleasure