YES THANK YOU. people see miles and gwen and refuse to see them as flawed and complex, capable of making their own bad decisions of their own free will. it's always someone else's fault, somebody being too harsh on them or manipulating them.
yes, gwen and miles are teenagers, their behavior is largely influenced by the adults surrounding them. but to say they cannot make bad choices and experience the repercussions of them is depriving them of autonomy. they are not real teenagers being victimized, they are characters in a movie who make choices and have to deal with the consequences.
gwen got kicked out of the spider society because she didn't do her job correctly. she was not kicked out of a cult for disobeying, she was fired from her job because she messed up so badly. and to ignore that, to say she was a victim of miguel's manipulation, is a disservice to the nuance of the writing of this movie