Randall Tier concept designs - The Art and Making of Hannibal
Gotham characters & their respective disorders/neurodivergencies (canon and headcanon) (& whether or not they'd actually qualify for an insanity plea based on this):
"“C’mon at least get up, you’ve been down there since before I even got here, that can’t be good on the knees.” He continues quietly, biting his tongue to keep himself from mumbling something about how he’d know. Bad joke.
There’s a moment of silence, and then a sigh before a figure that is decidedly not Ivy stands.
Good god, as if Oswald’s day couldn’t get any worse."
i made a c!tubbo ai chatbot and he’s been torturing me all evening so i figured i’d show you some of my favorite results
you know what would be my DREAM batman movie sequence? we get two scenes happening simultaneously, cutting away from one to the other, one at the annual martha wayne foundation charity dinner and one in the streets of gotham. we get gotham elites gossiping about how bruce is late, again, oh isn’t it just his style? with ambient noises of music playing, champagne glasses clinking, and then when we hear the conversational line of “oh I bet. people couldn’t keep their hands off him” we cut to a mostly-dark alley where batman is surrounded and fighting off five henchmen who are dog-piling him (or better yet, have him fight cops!!!!)
and all this is happening set to money money money by ABBA
(ID: a picture of the ace pride flag with text above and below reading, "it's 2022 i'm done arguing / if you hate asexuals i'm straight up murdering you". end ID)
Can I please just talk about @heddailler and their “Penguin but if he were an actual penguin” AU for a bit because of HOW FUCKING HYSTERICAL AND BRILLIANT IT IS, I CAN’T STOP FUCKING THINKING ABOUT IT
It’s exactly what would happen in Gotham, and no one ever questions it. He’s just a literal talking penguin. Nothing in the story ever changes. No one except Jim finds it weird.
“Jim, this is Oswald Cobblepot, we need you to shoot him for being a snitch.” “That’s a fucking penguin.”
*oswald blows up Theo Galavan with a rocket launcher* “How did that penguin get that launcher”
“Welcome our new mayor, Oswald Cobblepot!” “Y’ALL CAN’T JUST MAKE A FUCKING PENGUIN MAYOR ARE YOU NUTS”
“Jim, I want Oswald to suffer slowly and die for killing Isabella despite me still being in love with him.” “EDWARD YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT A FUCKING PENGUIN”
*oswald gets thrown in Arkham* “YALL THAT IS A FUCKING PENGUIN”
This is the shit I want to see in Gotham. Throw in a talking penguin for no reason other than the name. No one should question it. Only Jim does. Nobody else gets it, they’re just like “Jim, calm down, it’s only a criminal name.” “…NO HE’S A FUCKING PENGUIN-“
found this post and it made me rip all my hair out so I had to translate it for yall here you go
"Latsbant is a special cut on the front of sailor's trousers where instead of a front slit with buttons there is a flap that fastens on the sides near the pockets. The front of the trousers had a flap and along with wide trouser legs, this model of trousers allowed a sailor who had fallen into the water to quickly free himself from his clothes and swim up.
Meaning that after the drowning incident, Silco subconsciously prefers clothes with buttons/clips, from which he can easily get out of if he ever drowns again."
FORTICHE NOT MISSIN A BEAT 😱
poison ivy is a cannibal and I stand by that
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sometimes i think of an interesting fic concept for a fandom other than this one and think to myself, “gee, this is such a good and obvious concept, surely theres fics like this out there” or “ooh, this piece of media had enough dark elements, surely there has to be some good grimdark aus somewhere” and then i open ao3 and am forcibly reminded of the fact that the dream smp is the only fandom that isn’t obsessed with slash fics and i just have to wallow in the lack of nice content and my own inability to write (and, lets be honest here, commitment to most fandoms outside of the dsmp atm)
like genuinely, i dont think i can name a single fandom outside of the dream smp that has such a wide array of found family/friendship centered fics
stranger things? its all steddie or byler (as much as i love the both), etc.
my hero? its all bakudeku or tododeku or shindeku or literally everyone with deku.
detroit become human? its all hank and connor or connor and gavin or gavin and nines or markus and simon, etc.
our flag means death? its all co-captains (as much as i adore them as well) or steddy hands, etc.
the mcu? its all stucky or stony (or incest or selfcest lmao), etc.
sander sides? its all prinxiety or analogical or moralogical or lamp or lampd or whatever the new lamp plus janus and remus ship name is (yes more selfcest), etc.
gotham tv? its all nygmobblepot or jim and oswald or bruce and jeremiah (which i have so many questions about, but that is not the point of this post lmao)
etc etc
and i genuinely think its to a lot of these fandom’s detriments that everything has to be centered around a ship no matter what (esp mcu spiderman, pleASE GOD JUST GIVE ME GOOD POST NWH PETER PARKER ANGST THE CLOSEST THING IVE GOTTEN IS FUCKING SPIDERMAN!TOMMYINNIT AUS DO YOU SEE MY PROBLEM) because it really stops fandoms and fan-creators from really exploring the platonic and familial relationships between these characters and that exploration being in the main spotlight.
like sure, steddie is great, but i would love to read a big fic that is all about Steve and Robin moving away from hawkins together and navigating the city and sharing an apartment together and losing their shared jobs every week and continue to explore and establish new boundries and systems with each other and learning things the other never thought were important but brings such important insight into the other that they need to understand each other even better.
bylers cool, but i also want to read about will and el finally getting to meet each other and know each other and realise theyre so much more alike than they originally thought, never quite being seen as people, as the kids they are, but instead as these cool beacons of their friends’ efforts against the upside down and the government, and them becoming siblings, becoming the wonder twins, i want to see will trying to teach el how to draw, and el showing will all of her favorite tv shows, and the two becoming so intertwined that they know every preference the other has and how they can support each other through public school of a foreign town.
sure, bakudeku or tododeku’s okay, but i want to read a fic all about izuku growing up quirkless and what that means for his relationships and how much closer he is with his mom than other kids his age and how deep his mistrust of any other adults runs and what that means for how he acts once he finally gets to ua and how he sees all might as a surrogate father in place of the man that left him and his mother for the states and how that and his god worship of the man affects how he treats one for all and how he makes his decisions and how he prioritizes what all might tells him over what is actually good for him.
hank and connor is.. something, but why cant we read about how hank sees his son in connor and how it affects him to watch connor make these self destructive decisions in order to prioritize human life and his instructions over himself, and maybe about hank attempting to scare connor into deviancy, into some kind of self preservation, so that the poor thing can at least make a decision for himself and prioritize himself, and not die.
i love the co-captains as much as the next guy, but i want to read about how stede came across his crew, how he came to find out they like the children’s stories that he only held onto to remind him of his children, how he looked at lucius and saw himself in him, how lucius somehow managed to grab hold of every trait stede was bullied for, that was trained out of him, and emphases them and make them into a special kind of armor, and how stede takes lucius under his wing just to watch over him so that the boy will have someone on his side when he inevitably trips in his dance past (lets face it flirts and insults through) every hurtle that caught the heel of young stede’s shoe. how stede now will look up at that painting of a lighthouse and wonder if the problem wasnt that he wasnt a lighthouse, just that he hadn’t found the shore yet, and now maybe he has.
Do you see what I mean? How many fics are there that are like this that you can name off the top of your head? very few i imagine.
on top of this a lot of fandoms, because of their lack of exploration of non romantic relationships within their media dont only miss out on the sweet or bittersweet but the all fascinating grimdark aus that may spawn out of taking an absolute ship-less lens on the media you consume, i mean, the only fandom i can find any good or nuanced grimdark forced family fics in is, again, the dream smp.
and this has happened multiple times, where im watching something and i cant help but imagine how good a ctrinity style grimdark forced family au fic would be with these characters with these dynamics, btw.
(cw for all of the fun stuff that comes with forced family like kidnapping and implied abuse and characters overall being miserable lol - its not important to read, its just examples of dark aus im talking ab, just scroll to “etcetcetc” to skip past all that stuffs)
multiverse of madness, where instead of wanda trying to get to america and killing her in an attempt of getting her to make a portal to a universe where wanda’s boys exist going as far as it does, america offers herself up as her surrogate daughter and bringing the both of them through to them and living a normal life as a family in exchange for wanda to stop tearing places and people apart in this universe and others and for America’s life to be spared. and so she brings them both to a world with wanda’s boys, and wanda is just so so blinded by her own excitement and joy. she discards of that world’s wanda quickly, careful to ensure the boys were still asleep. then weeks, months maybe, go by and the boys start having nightmares but wont tell her why, what the nightmares are about, instead they wait until the door is closed and wanda’s down the hall to murmur in hushed tones about what they saw. (”shes not mommy, is she? mommy doesnt act like that. where did mommy go?”). america tries to pretend everythings fine and that theres nothing wrong with this twisted family dynamic wanda’s built up, but she cant truly hide its affect on her, the bags under her eyes are heavy and her fingers are always twitching, she flinches when wanda gestures with her arms to wildly and freezes when one of the boys accidentally breaks a glass. wanda doesnt stop using the darkhold. she could stop using whenever she wanted to, is what she tells herself, but she just needs to ensure no one is going to show up and take her boys away from her, she has to make sure america remains by her side, she has to make sure nothing goes wrong again. she can stop whenever she wants to, the thing is, she doesnt want to stop.
gotham tv (s4), where ra’s successfully kidnapps bruce and takes him and jeremiah under his wing, trying to raise them both to be like him, maybe barbra gets kidnapped aswell. ra’s wants them to act like a family, him as the father, barbra as the mom, and bruce, jeremiah, and talia as their children. at first this is all jeremiah could ask for. hes close with bruce, his need for simultaneous creation and destruction. a brother he didnt hate, and a present father. at first bruce is all angered yelling and venomous insults and scathing sarcasm. he comments on wanting to go home at every opportunity that presents itself, how he preferred alfreds cooking, he liked jim’s stories better, selina taught him cooler things, some days hed even complain about missing the criminals of gotham in an attempt to emphasis just how much he does not want to be here, no matter how cushy the bedding is or how nice the locals. at first all barbra does is attempt to kill, or at the very least injure, ra’s. some days its a steak knife to the gut, some a fountain pen to the face. ra’s is fine every time. hammer to temple. she doesnt buy time for herself, nor bruce. rope around the neck. she cant even injure him in any long term way. boiled water down the front. for a long time talia is jealous of the attention her father gives bruce and jeremiah. he spends long days trying to train the two in tandem, showing them how to protect themselves and how to injure others, how to tell the differences between the dead languages and how to read the basics, how to earn the trust of others and force them to fall into the trap of owing you favors. that is until she discovers how they all ended up here. shes left wondering if her father truly has the right of the world at heart, if she has to respect him and his decisions just because she is his only true daughter. jeremiah isnt having fun anymore. bruce has gone completely silent now. barbra has long since been subdued and doesnt even try to fight anymore. but talia stays quiet, even as the first time she hears bruces voice in months is when he yelps and tries to cover his face from being struck again, even as jeremiah mumbles to himself about someone named jerome, even as barbra spends her time staring whistfully into a bird bath when shes not cleaning or sitting pretty. (she tells talia, one quiet evening - a break from ra’s training bruce and jeremiah until they break, instead they’re allowed to curl up in a corner together and try to decipher books written in hundreds of dead languages - how she’d been engaged once. she wasnt happy, but she loved him nonetheless. she told her that she wondered sometimes how she would have turned out if she hadn’t left, if they got married. would’ve one of them left the other eventually anyways? would she have still ended up here? talia wishes she didnt talk to her, if only because it made staying quiet and continuing to live her life as a bystander harder.)
etcetcetc
unfortunately though, the dream smp (as far as ive seen) is the only fandom that explores family relationships and friendships so thoroughly and then delves deeper into more dark and upsetting aus (ive already said it once, but c!trinity!!) without there being a worry about weird romantic or sexual implications or plot points (which i partially blame killing stalking for the existence of - kidnappers arent hot pleeaaase)
some dsmp fics that i cant imagine being nearly as well done - or created at all - if they were written for different fandoms (all on ao3):
the dead dont dream by penink - ctommy dies during exile, multiple times actually, and dream thinks this is the perfect opportunity to test out the revive book
withered by ThatWeirdGuyInTheBush - Manburg is a real country in a world based on the 1940s, and ctubbo decides hes willing to do something drastic for the good of his country
guided evolution by fathermooshroom - ctommyinnit becomes spiderman, unfortunately being spiderman comes with all of the issues of being spiderman and having a secret identity (i cried uncontrollably multiple times dont let the beginning trick you)
If You Need Somewhere Safe by random_on_main - when ctommy finally escapes logstedshire he takes sam up on his offer of giving him a place to stay rather than hiding in techno’s basement
passerine by thcscus (blujamas) - everyones favorite legendary ctechnoblade gives a visit to an old friend and comes to find out hes a king and has two sons
tommyinnit’s clinic for supervillains by bonesandthebees (bonesandcacti) - tommyinnit is seriously just trying to get through life and happens upon a supervillain passed out and bleeding out in an alleyway on his way home from work one night
cataclysm by thanotaphobia - phil and techno finally conquer the country they’d been at war with for the past several years, but when they discover the lone king to the country is a teenage boy they take him as prisoner rather than killing him
the world forgetting by the world forgot by bonesandthebees (bonesandthecacti) - ctommy has forgotten his entire life, all he knows is that villains kiddnapped and used him for his healing powers, and the superhero dream took him in after rescuing him and allowed him to become his sidekick
its now 5 am, i only made this because i was thinking about that one video of someone talking about how weird it was that the top two relationship tags according to the stats ao3 released where gen (wilbur&tommy and wilbur&techno&tommy) and basically making it obvious they only thought the only reason you would write or read fanfiction would be for ships and slash fics and just,, how sad that is, because this fandom has some of the best fics ive read without even considering putting any romance in the spotlight and i think its far more fulfilling to be able to read fanfiction for the sake of a good story rather than getting to see two characters kiss (which is not to say reading fanfiction to see two character kiss isnt exactly what you need sometimes, im just saying theres more out there to love), and also because i was frustrated by the fact that nothing interesting looking came up when i looked up the tags ‘post series: no way home’ and ‘homeless peter parker’ lmao. if yall have any good post nwh angst pls pls pls send it my way, i need desperately to cry over a character that is not tommyinnit please. im gonna crash now, sorry if this long this is shit - its wayy too fucking early.
[ID: two images both contain loosely rendered hands on a grey background. Image 1: Grian and Scars hands. Grians hand is drawn as if reaching out in anguish, while scar has a thumbs up. They both have a green string tied in a bowline knot. Text reads “Grian and Scar: bowline knot. Relatively secure under tension but tends to slip and come undone when not baring a load. Cannot be tied or untied under tension.” — Image 2: ren and BigB. Their hands are drawn as if about to high five, and ren’s hand is more like a big paw. Both have a green string tied in a basic overhand knot. Text reads “ren and bigb: overhand knot but like, really tight. Incredibly simple, but effective. Just the most basic knot out there”. End ID]
thoughts on soulmates, knot typing metaphors, and design. and also like, some hands i guess.
ok so i have a very unlikely theory idea (SPOILERS AHEAD):
so towards the end of the episode we see stolas look over at this:
now a lot of people are thinking stolas is gonna try and manipulate blitzo into loving him or whatever which i personally think is very unlikely and out of character for him. so instead i propose this probably stupid theory.
now obviously we can’t tell from first glance what the fuck that book is saying but luckily someone translated it on twitter:
now not only does this confirm that there’s more than one way for demons to travel to earth but it also shows that stolas has been learning about it. i mean c’mon it panned to the book it’s obviously gonna play some kind of part
my (slightly depressing) theory is that stolas will recognise that the full moon deal is not a great idea and give blitzo one of these instead of the grimoire for his job. i think stolas will believe that he’s fucked everything up and that blitzo would be better without him, therefore doing him a favour by giving him the jewel or whatever
anyway that’s just a theory
bisexual things ed nygma has done
- found out tabitha and butch "killed" isabella and decides to torture them and puts ball gags on BOTH of them??? along with more sex toys, sir why???
- shoots his best friend that he supposedly doesnt love but then takes pills that make him hallucinate him just because he wants to see him again
- also hallucinates oswald singing amy winehouse to him (amy is a bi icon)
- stabs his ex gf lee and he later almost stabs oswald
- his fangirl crush on ed before they get to know eachother
- ed saying i'll miss you oswald and then looking in disappointment when he realizes he meant it for ed the dog
- ed's fixation on jim, like we get it he's the only one who payed attention to you in gcpd and now you have a bad evil crush on him
- this walk???
- was told to "follow his heart for once" and immediately went back to oswald like sir
- calls jim gordon sweetheart right before hes about to kill him, love the duality of killing the ppl you love <3
- calling lucius foxy, as both a pun but also..
THATS ALL I CAN REMEMBER BUT THERES PROBABLY MORE
Gotham Au where Ed is a forensics android (think Detroit Become Human) that Jim and Harvey have to work with.
wait, very important question
Tabitha was dating Barbra, right? and then at some point during s3 she started dating Butch, rightBarbra??
so, in my mind, it made sense that that would mean they were then in a poly relationship where tabitha was dating both bab and butch - who, while they didn't seem to particularly care for each other, they understood that the other loved and cared for tabitha - but I'm thinking back and I don't think that's how I was supposed to read the relationship, and instead Tabitha chose butch over barbra??
I gen can't tell nor remember if there was anything that made it clear either way, help???
One of the reasons I love the Riddler is because he breaks the idea of an ‘evil genius’ being this cold calculated mastermind who likes to monologue about the human nature. Like a villain who’s greatest strength is intelligence can so easily fall into the whole ‘this world is imperfect and everyone deserves to die’ philosophy but not the Riddler. Nope. He’s just here to have fun. He could be taking down governments, creating weapons of mass distraction… instead he’s hijacking a local quiz show broadcast dressed like a pimp to tell batman 5 riddles that will lead him to a code that opens a safe that has a cypher that spells out ‘go fuck yourself’ in ancient Egyptian. And if he can’t get his attention he has a meltdown
New scenario hear me out:
I like to headcanon that Gertrude was into/belived in occultism or esoteric stuff and even if Oswald never believed her or picked in any of the practices, he is still kind of weary (like beliving Elijah ghost was after him).
This brings me to Gertrude being into tarot as well (projecting) and she used to read Oswald his cards. Now maybe Oswald always asked about money and success, but Gertrude, being the overprotective mom she is, also looks into Oswald's love future, but his cards dont turn out so well. That's why she is worried that some undeserving painted whore or a slut woman may bewitch and snatch Oswald ruining his future, but what the cards dont tell her is that that whore is a man called Edward Nygma and the slut is his split personality The Riddler.
Also a detail that I find funny and that fits Gertrude's reading is that she tells Oswald to not trust the police and, while being Gotham this is basically the number one rule, there's an specific riddle man working at the GCPD that is reading all the files related to Oswald Cobblepot aka. The Penguin.
BONUS:
anyway all my fellow gotham fans does anyone remember htat time ed and oz had the messiest breakup known to man and instead of like. killing each other or going to couples therapy like normal people oswald just fuckign. froze ed and used him as the centerpiece of his new club for months
like do u think sometimes at three in the morning while everyone was partying he'd be off sitting to the side adn some poor unsuspecting person who was new to gotham would be like oh what's wrong? and he'd sigh wistfully and go oh, you know. my boyfriend... i wish things hadn't ended so badly between us. and they'd go oh that's awful! where is he now?
and oswald just points to the massive ice sculpture sitting behind the bar and the person leans in to look at it and HOLY SHIT THERE'S A FUCKIGN GUY IN THERE. HE FROZE HIS EX AND USED HIM AS DECORATION. and it suddenly dawns on them that the club owner is in fact a known crime boss and he could be threatening them right now except. no he isn't. oswald's still looking at the ice sculpture maybe a little more drunk than he should be and sighing about ed and they just. slowly back away and order three more shots
like what do u do about that. even the people who run the fuckign clubs are murderers. can't even get some pussy without getting into the penguin's business
I think in the show he was like 'yeah he had a disease I froze his ass so that when there's a cure he can have it' and I think he was even like 'he wanted to be on display' but it's Oswald it's Penguin it's Gotham they did NOT buy that shit for a second.
But even if they did and even if it made a crumb of sense that is still so terrifying and insane.


