An Update

Simon Hanselmann and Brandon Graham are the two referenced in the NYC episode. I’ll let Simon’s comic speak for itself. 

What’s important is how to handle stuff like this in a profession where there isn’t Human Resources to handle problems with freelancers. I want to make clear that though this is a problem within comics, it is a greater world problem and we can see that by the women speaking against Trump and Michelle Obama’s own response where she refers women do their best to keep their head above water concerning harassment and assault.

I want to clear a few things up: people are confused about whether I’m male or female, I’m non-binary.

My motivation was simply to warn women working in comics who might cross paths or work with Paul Pope so his predatory behavior can be countered and the chances of another sexual assault happening is lessened. I feel that this goal has been met. I detailed what was ultimately emotionally abusive episode (anxiety, depression, isolation) I ended up in because of Paul’s actions and how he let that episode continue for me without offering sympathy because it could happen again to someone else and I want to make it clear, I wasn’t the only one; my friend went through it too, but moved on better than I. It is an augment to the warning, but for people pursuing comics who are young or just naive to beware of people with influence within comics like Paul Pope because you can find yourself in the position of his predatory behavior and/or silenced. This wasn’t something I could settle with Paul alone because I was one of three who saw him as too “powerful.” Paul Pope is a bully.

I called Paul Pope a sexual predator because he was using his position to target women and I won’t use his breakup or alcoholism to forgive it and I’ve seen allegations reaching as far back as 2009. Note that sexual predator and sexual assault does not necessarily equal rapist and rape. I mentioned rape as a concern because I don’t know how far Paul has gone; where there’s sexual assault, in most cases there’s more.

Not a lot of media has covered the allegations of what I’ve said, and I’m okay with that because the warning has reached people. It doesn’t need to be loud. I have confidence in what we don’t see on social media. Paul’s heard it and his silence says enough. 

As for how I feel about what I posted, I don’t like it. It’s lose-lose. You can do things carefully and people will still give you shit on both sides. But yes, It’s too long and given how crunched I felt wanting to get this out before his NYCC appearance, I didn’t have time to put out highly refined writing. I didn’t look to write something stoic either. I wish I had more time to edit the personal stuff down. I’ll leave the insensitive things he said up in the air l because they do reflect his attitude towards people. I don’t want anyone to be as stressed as I have been for the past two years. There is both a psychological and social stigma to speaking out and what I experienced was definitely fucking with my head. I became a time bomb and looking back now that I’ve quit being silent, I can see how bad of a place I was in.

As for Paul, I do feel like whatever discussion that comes out of this is valid. Alcoholism and sexual assault are world problems not specific to comics. We can debate whether what happened was the cause of alcoholism after a breakup or not, but Paul Pope has definitely hurt people while drunk and it shouldn’t go unnoticed by fans or professionals. I don’t believe alcohol was the deciding factor for Paul to assault his victim, but if Paul wants to blame the assault on alcohol, it is irresponsible of him to not be public about this incident because if he were to relapse, there is no warning for people to stay away. No matter the sobriety, it is still sexual assault. If you’ve had a negative experience with Paul Pope, you should tell him. No matter if it’s another instance of him being a creep, saying something not cool, or rubbing you the wrong way. Negativity regarding Paul Pope is hardly new the same that Paul Pope can be someone incredibly positive. I didn’t talk to Paul Pope a second time because I already felt cornered and knew he wouldn’t listen. You don’t necessarily need to quit reading his books, but if you’re a fan, survivor, or professional, you should express yourself directly to him and he should listen.

An Open Letter to Paul Pope on Abuse.

Disclaimer: I have nothing to gain in publicizing this. I don’t want a lynch mob against Paul Pope for expressing my anger. I want him to recognize that what he’s done is unforgivable and hold himself responsible. How he has treated people is detrimental to “saving comics.” If anyone has anger towards me, note that Paul was given the choice to come out about this.

Paul Pope, you are a sexual predator. 

I’ve been cautioned that if I spoke out about this there would be repercussions on my career. One victim felt their career was threatened too. As someone who looked up to you and is a victim of sexual assault, it has gravely affected me during a time of recovery.

I have lost so much professionally because of this and I feel I have to navigate comics carefully to avoid those associated with you. I’m tired of being silent. If being blacklisted is the cost of me not being silent, I’m ending any hope for a career right here.

I will not mention names for their protection. If you or your people go after anyone because you can’t take responsibility, you go after me. This is the only way I can warn any potential victim and for this matter to be taken dead serious by you since it’s been brought to my attention that you’re appearing at conventions again. Your streak against women shouldn’t be forgiven because you’re Paul Pope. You should not be allowed in a professional environment, at least not without a leash. It’s a privilege you’ve violently misused against people.

I am not obligated to protect you as some would expect. I am not your shield. Any anger you have towards me is anger you haven’t settled with yourself. It’s unhealthy and unethical of me to be silent. This is going to be a mess and I never wanted to call you out, but this is how the silence I told you to come out against played out.

This is what I’m aware of. I made a comment about a cartoonist being inappropriate and the person I was talking to mistook me for talking about you. They revealed that during a Comic Con, you had aggressively hit on her. She said it made her uncomfortable and it was unprofessional of you to treat her like that. She questioned whether this was common for you. She wanted it to stop.

I was at a signing talking and someone told me to bring you up with a cartoonist in the store. I did. That cartoonist told me that when they were in New York, you were saying gross, sexual things to their friend that bothered the group. She didn’t want you. They sassed you to stop, but you threatened to fight them instead. I told them that you were going through a lot of shit, having “dark times.” I defended you like an idiot. Someone sternly called me on it, “it’s inexcusable to treat women like that and threaten someone.” I didn’t argue with them. I went silent because they were right. I later found out that the other cartoonist involved was someone else who admires your work and they confirmed it. They care about you too and are more forgiving than I am. If this was just you being a drunk, I’d be with them on seeing you quit drinking, but it’s more than that.

This brings me to the major event that occurred in July of 2014 that I was made aware of in 2015.

My friend and his girlfriend brought her sister, who was excited to meet you, to your signing but you chose to direct sexual gestures to her suggesting she suck your dick. You were intent on fucking the sister and trying hard to coerce her back to your hotel room. When that failed, you went after the girlfriend. They helped your drunk ass back to your room. At the door, you forced her to kiss you and when she pushed you off, you slammed the door in her face. The girlfriend was shaken by what happened. My friend later confronted you about it and you brushed him off. This was sexual assault followed by indirect violence toward your victim for refusing you. You were taking advantage of your fans to fuel your womanizing.

My friend said he tried to go public about it but was silenced because he felt his career was threatened and comics media wouldn’t take allegations against you seriously. I want him remain anonymous because you’re the problem I’m addressing.

I want to take a moment to emphasize that, though normalized by rape culture, forcing someone to kiss you is sexual assault. No matter how they respond, dodge, or quickly push you off, you are invading personal space and denying them consent. They know that you’re trying to fuck them and they have to act defensively to get away. It is a violent step toward rape. I don’t know if it was not being aware or him trying to forgive you, but I had to tell my friend what happened was sexual assault.

There’s more soul crushing to that night, but that’s just you being insensitive to the people who look up to you, something that I’m pretty familiar with. People like you are why a lot of people have trust issues. If someone looks up to you for your work, you’ve made the world better for those people. You’ve brought positivity beyond their dollar. You aren’t obligated to respect them, but it speaks volumes when you treat them like they’re worth something and where making rent is concerned, they’re worth a lot to you. As an artist with a voice, you should leave a positive mark on people, not a scar.

Repeat to yourself, “I am where I am because I’m fortunate enough that people have connected with my work.” Be modest—the Comics Destroyer is a self-important facade.

I wanted to believe this behavior was contained, but I’ve heard elsewhere that before 2014 you had hit on someone’s girlfriend and shrugged them off when they told you to stop. He didn’t mind as much as the others, but I suspect we’re wired to forgive you because you’re Paul Pope. This behavior isn’t a product of depression or alcoholism, it is who you are. If that’s the Paul Pope you want to be, ditch Pulp Hope for Pull Poop.

Given what I’ve learned, I won’t doubt there’s abuse spanning decades. My worst fear goes beyond forced kissing and attempted coercion to rape.

I feel for how your life changed as a result of stacked grief, and I cared deeply when I was told that you were drunk and expressing suicidal thoughts after your breakup. There’s more that I know about your history that I won’t reveal. I wanted you to be okay, but I can’t excuse this and I won’t treat you like a flower. I went through a breakup and several family deaths, but I didn’t sexually assault anyone because I know better.

You were in a position to learn and practice empathy, promoting it by default, instead you fucked with people. Harassment and Assault trickles down from the people involved to family, friends, publishers, professionals, and your fans. Everyone is affected. It’s not just an assault on one person, but poison within the community. You are responsible for how you affect people.

I talked to First Second and, while they did console me that speaking to them wouldn’t affect my career, I thought dealing with you would end there. It didn’t. I do feel I’ve wrecked any chance of working with them in telling them. They told me that there were no plans to tour you. Given there really weren’t any appearances for the Aurora West books and you aren’t signing at their booth at NYCC, I hold they’re true to their word and I hope it’ll stay true past the release of Battling Boy 2 and THB. Whether you’ve reformed yourself or not, your actions have shown that you are not fit for signings and appearances. First Second has a lot of women on all sides of production driving their quality up with each new season of books. Women who deal feminism in their comics and have work dealing with sexual assault. It’s not fair to ever have you on panel with them. It’s not fair to fans that are victims of sexual assault or allies to support you blindly.

This is how you’ve affected me: If there’s soul for comics I had, you’ve crushed it. I feel for my friend and the two girls and I wish I could have posted this warning before that night. When my friend vaguely posted about his experience with you, I knew it was you even before I knew any of this.

I started Destroy Comics because your art affected me. Running this blog was a great experience where I made friends, and learned a lot. Yet, Destroy Comics ended because you're a creep who forces himself on girls.

The truth is that in dealing with you I feel isolated. You were never really receptive. I don’t feel confident talking to creators or publishers anymore because of loyalty to you. I’ve withdrawn a lot from comics as a result. I know you never really gave a shit, but at the worst moment, I was having panic attacks and I felt lost like comics was being torn from me. I don’t care anymore. This is your legacy.

You are privileged to be relevant through generations past your own. While I admit your creative peak was THB before you wasted that golden momentum on Year 100. You aren’t responsible for all the problems I have, but I wanted to make comics until I die after reading Heavy Liquid and 100%; they gave me life as I was coping alone after being sexually assaulted and pushed away by my friends for speaking out. It’s a major hit to my motivation to know that you’d perpetuate that behavior when you have scenes of men stalking women in alleyways and arming themselves against that behavior.You weren’t the drunk who grabbed me, but all of this is familiar and it has become personal to me.

I started selling off your work. I can’t look at it and not feel anger over everything that followed me, how me telling you to stop set a dissolution for whatever fucked up acquaintance we had, and how it affected me professionally by losing all motivation for comics at one point because I felt trapped being told I should tread lightly for what I know. Your friends excusing you. Your friends giving me shit in denial. “Paul is usually batting off women,’ one said. I wonder if the only conversation I had with one of the people close to you was because you told him to keep tabs on me. I look at my own art and, though I’m trying desperately to remove it, I hate that I can still see your influence. As I pack your comics and toys in mailers, I feel grief because this brought me so much joy and now it’s gone.  When joy for something that empowers you is replaced with grief, you lose a large part of yourself. It’s bled into my love for comics. What you did, how it related to my own history and caused me to be afraid for my career, it fucked me up on comics pretty bad.  I retreated. I’m trying to make the love good again, trying to draw as much as I used to, but I don’t know whether I’m able to or if it’s time to give up.

I tried talking to you to settle the dust. I can see myself forgiving you in the email and I’m disgusted with myself for it, but I still made it clear I was not well because of you. You didn’t apologize. For the length I expressed my concerns and the days it took you to respond, "hope you are well” was impersonal and an insulting non-response.

I know you unfollowed me on social media, and I didn’t let it bother me too much because I already accepted you were a flake, which is a common feeling among people who know you. I woke up one day to my phone notifying me you were following me again, but opened twitter to the contrary. I don’t know what was up with that. It was embarrassing for me and now I’m sure it’s embarrassing for you. You blocked me months after. I hardly ever talk to you. Was it because I told you to stop being a creep and own up to it or because the last thing I said was to not spread news of Darwyn Cooke’s death before his family could make it official? Paired with feeling like you’ve had people keeping tabs on me, you’re sketchy.

It’s been over a year I’ve felt I can’t talk to people we both know without great risk. Paired with battling isolation depression, I feel a creative paralysis from this. It’s a spiritual return to trying to out the person who assaulted me. I’m exhausted and I feel caged. I went after Ulises Farinas after hearing about multiple offenses against women, something that was an entirely different mess that I will not focus on but will support anyone who does choose to speak out in detail, I realize I acted out because of repression from my silence about you.

There’s subtle things I hope you’ve been called on about your personality that’s frankly racist, misogynistic, and homophobic. This is your mess, it deserves attention.

Remember the day after Michael Brown was murdered you tweeted this for whatever reason.

Do you realize how dehumanizing it is to add season to what’s already a huge slur against people of color? You’re promoting fear against people of color to your following.

You delete tweets a lot. For some reason you didn’t delete that one, but you did delete this, but the remains are on twitter if you search.

“Hey lesbian--that’s cool and all, I know you’re a rebel--but please for godsake take a MFing bath!!”

You have members of the LGBTQ+ community who love your work, yet you made this tweet years ago where you ridicule a lesbian. Lesbians aren’t lesbians to rebel. They are lesbians because they can’t help liking women. This tweet gives them shit for their sexuality and has nothing to do with political statements or personal hygiene. It’s fucking homophobic.

Chris Hunt parroted that you described the struggle of being cartoonist a “Trail of Tears,” and I’ll hold him to this too as per his request. 

I get you’re into Native American imagery, but appropriating a significant event in the ongoing genocide of Native American cultures for a metaphor to describe a glorified desk job that doesn’t pay well is pretty fucking insensitive. The genocide of native people is not a euphemism for you to sling, especially considering you’ve shown nothing to offer visibility or justice for native lives still fighting to survive hunger, uranium poisoning, cops, and corporate development. What have you offered the Standing Rock Sioux against DAPL? By the way, my grandmother was Inuk, an who exiled herself instead of going along with the forced high arctic relocation, another Trail of Tears. Her culture never reached me. It’s nothing like paying health insurance on a cartoonist’s income. It’s a poor euphemism and I really don’t appreciate you using the history of invisible cultures to describe career problems while you romanticize their culture.

It goes well beyond how I saw through you when you used the word “bitch” to tell me about the organizer angry with you for missing a panel in Oslo, you saying a cosplayer can’t be a comic book fan but rather an exhibitionist, and so much more.  Even that essay on Suicide Girls in Pulp Hope feels like you’re trying to put yourself above pornography like the moment before the fall of a conservative senator caught in a sex scandal. You’ve even retweeted that “political correctness is the death of comedy” bullshit John Cleese pushed. I’m not the few originally offended by a lot of this. I have only noted responses the past couple of years.

I want you and professionals like you to publicly accept responsibility for damaging behavior. Abuse and hate against women is too common and the only way to hold offenders accountable is to be vocal. No more sweeping it under the rug.

Paul, you make a book for children about kids who fight monsters who take kids into dark places to do things to them. You potentially have kids who are making comics for the first time because of Battling Boy. It’s devastating to have someone whose work you enjoy trying to bed you, to threaten the people who tell you to stop. It’s okay to try to fuck people because people like to fuck and get fucked, but if you ever think that the best route to sex is being aggressive rather than gradual, you have a problem with consent. You have become a monster dragging innocents into the darkness.

No matter how low you get in life, it never excuses how you affect the world. If you want someone who got sober and is in the position of wide influence that you waste, Andrew Reynolds could be a great inspiration for staying sober. 

This open letter is a negative, but with what you know about the venom of your own negativity, you can take the two negatives and make a positive not for you, but for the community if you do the right thing. I was a fan who took my love for your work and organized a presence on tumblr for you. People that didn’t know who you were became fans through it. Several friends outside of comics picked up Battling Boy because they saw how much I loved your work. I’ve given kids copies of Battling Boy. I was your fan and now I’m your enemy. You now have control over a significant amount of the hate that will be directed towards me. You said that to save comics you had to destroy them, but this is what that destruction yields.

Don’t expect to be forgiven. This is about penance. Do the right thing.

I’m finished.

On Scott Allie and How to Deal with Sexual Predators in Comic

You can turn off your social media, your phone, or your tv to avoid the weight and implications of the world. You can step outside to a silent word where the night sky and its stars extend beyond yourself. While this doesn’t mean that the problems of koyaanisqatsi disappear, of cops killing black and native people, of the militarization of human life,  destruction of wildlife & the natural environment, of people fleeing their home to survive, the epidemic of disease and abuse, of the world as we know it ending; it means that we can be excluded and find the global anxiety we inherit distant from ourselves. It won’t go away, but there can still be that refreshing silence. No one person has the power to save the world, but it’s something we wish out of fear to have the ability to change. Eventually, you’ll find yourself out of that silent world and you’ll see these problems before yourself in a way you are not distant. 

Sexual abuse is ingrained into comics, no one person can stop it, but we can learn how to approach it in a way to put an effort forth to prevent these abusive people from causing more harm.

A few weeks ago on the topic of Nathan Edmondson being called out without specific testimondy and Brian Wood’s Sexual Predator Suicide and Crossfit newsletter, Sarah Horrocks wrote this incredibly gross post on the “mob” sensationalism of calling out professionals for being sexually indecent in support of Brian Wood.

Let’s get this straight, mob is more often dysphemism for groups of people we don’t agree with or are conditioned to be against. It’s common to call the Ferguson Protests a mob when it was tuned to civil rights and not violence. The use of the word “mob” is often slanderous as much as it is a slur.

Calling out people is not incompetent in anyway, “mobs” are naturally messy. No matter what it is, the mess is the the start to cleaning up the problem. Some messes are more difficult and abstract than others, but messes are essential to the actualization and resolution of the problem.

It’s difficult to get people to come forward and release information on the topic of sexual assault and harassment, or people who make others feel uncomfortable, but the lack of specific testimony doesn’t mean the call out is without reason. I’ve been in this place recently with Ulises Farinas along with a few other people, though I will not elaborate or call out further until people who choose to be silent come forward, his behavior is serialized, such as Scott Allie’s.

There is a process for us to deal with these people beyond calling out to which the call out helps; though I was originally going to focus on Farinas, Scott Allie will serve with more available precision.

1. Know their face:

This is Scott Allie. He probably edits your favorite books at Dark Horse and he’s built a long career of it. He’s also a sexual predator and an alcoholic. He touches people against their will. He’s bitten enough victims to earn the terrifying title “Bitey the Clown.”

Scott Allie represents Dark Horse. To an extent, Dark Horse is Scott Allie and his serial behavior of sexual assault.

Even if you are not the one who has been assaulted or harassed, knowing Scott Allie’s face serves to let you know to keep away from him and who you are reporting as a victim, witness or concerned party.

Who Qualifies in Reporting a Sexual Predator:

The victim and witnesses- It goes without saying. These people have the most power in actually describing what happened. They are the most sensitive in this situation though. They are more likely to protect themselves.

Freelancers and Co-workers- Who have heard about their behavior enough to warrant the necessary action.

Anyone who has heard it through the grapevine- Ideally, these are fans and professionals who want to read or work with a publisher like Dark Horse, but Scott Allie’s remaining presence gives them unease.

The amount of people who have power in this matter is broad and important.

Know that whatever decency a Sexual Predator could be given in dealing with the problem of sexual assault is sacrificed once they’ve committed the act.

2. Report Predators to Convention Officials

This is most important. Any convention worth attending has an anti-harassment policy. While I think there should be committees over a lot of these conventions to extend the appropriate action beyond where this behavior takes place, it’s important for anyone involved or concerned to report these people to the specific authorities on this issue so to alert them to the sexual abuse that has taken place. They can then take action in attempting to bad the Predator from the show.

In the case of Scott Allie, I hope he has been reported. His behavior should not be tolerated in or around the vicinity of SDCC or any convention where he has assaulted someone.

3. Report Predators to Their Publisher, or Who They Represent

This is just as important. Staff and talent, other than representing the company, often travel on the company’s dime. To report someone to their publisher is to let them know that this person is problematic to the reputation and image of the company. They have the power to bar them from further public appearances. Ideally, where staff is concerned, they will be fired.

Right now, Scott Allie is safe in his employment. This is disgusting, but thankfully there are people out their countering them to which I’ll elaborate later. 

Scott Allie should be fired or should resign himself.

4. Talk to the Predator yourself

This is highly risky. I don’t recommend anyone take this action unless you feel it’s absolutely necessary. This is a chance to handle things as quietly as possible. To give them a chance to let them know personally that what they’ve done is wrong. Remember that people are inherently abusive idiots when it comes to being told about themselves. This approach opens you to be abused by the Predator beyond the initial assault. This is one reason why I won’t elaborate on what I know about Ulises Farinas, but one case has been handled privately with him, but he still has a lot more to answer for.

Scott Allie in no way should be approached this way, given his position and power. Scott as a Predator sits in a position to ruin your career and keep you silent.

5. Call Them Out

I don’t consider this a step necessary to handling the problem, but if it picks up it augments all other work done to prevent the Predator from further behavior being accessible. A mass call out serves as noise to let parties know that this is a problem, more and more people know, and the predator is a serious liability.

This is messy. This spreads like shit, but the shit isn’t there without purpose. A person like Scott Allie shits in the offices of Dark Horse and asks his co-workers to clean it up for him.

Calling Scott Allie out, announcing your feelings, and making statements about your future with Dark Horse can help them take the appropriate action if they’re still trying to dodge bullets.

Right now, a few creators, and I hope more, have announced that they will not work with Dark Horse so long as Scott Allie retains his position. If you can counter in this way, you are letting Dark Horse know that they’re not worthy of their title as publisher.

For people passionate about this issue, join them if you’re are a professional and quit buying their books if you’re a reader. Let Dark Horse know this stance is widespread.

6. Don’t Accept Apologies

An apology excuses harmful behavior after the harm has already been done. It is a meaningless expression.

Scott Allie apologized, but with his history with assault and alcohol, it really means nothing.

7. Accept Only Penance

This is the only way in this context that an apology can be legitimized. Though forgiveness is entirely within the victim, penance lets people know that the predator is holding themselves accountable for being abusive.

The only penance Scott Allie can offer is a lifelong attendance of AA, resignation of his position, and donating to groups who help prevent and help victims.

Your acceptance of penance is neither necessary or should come easy for the Predator. 

There is a misogyny present in how we deal with and talk about this, and it will always be present, it’s part of what disgusted me about Sarah Horrock’s writing, but the biggest problem with comics conventions is that these hot shits come to shows expecting to fuck. They are shitting where we collectively eat.

Conventions are important to a creator’s livelihood and Predators like Scott Allie take advantage of the flow of people through these shows. 

I’ve never met a person looking to actually hook up at a show in the right mind.

No matter who you are, creators are at conventions to earn money for their craft and find jobs, not to find dick. A comic convention is not your own personal tinder.

To Something New

For personal reasons that I will not elaborate other than being a fan has become more difficult for me this past year, I am dissociating this tumblr with Paul Pope.

I’m considering continuing this as something I can use to express my thoughts on comics as an art form, apply criticism to books and artists I love, and social clusterfuck. I’m also considering deleting this tumblr for what negativity it represents.

I want to say this though, I am grateful for the friends I’ve made as a result of running Destroy Comics. Friends who’ve helped me grow as a person and artist. I understand that Paul Pope gained some readers through me. A friend fell in love with Paul Pope’s work when they thought I was dead. Handling the Battling Boy and Escapo contests were a great joy in otherwise difficult times. 

This blog represents a lot of personal good, but it’s time for me to move on. If anyone wants to pick up in my place, I understand, but contact me before doing so.

Thank you so much.

For victims of any sort of abuse by comics professionals

I get messages and have had discussions from time to time about how dozens creators have behaved at conventions and online. Though Destroy Comics is dedicated to Paul Pope’s comics and other artists who are bringing the heat, I wanted to let you all know if you’re a victim or know anyone who is a victim of any inappropriate behavior and you’re unable to find anyone who believes or will support you, you can contact me here or through my personal blog, davezissou. 

Allies are important to improving the air in the comics community. Since this has been such a common issue for me, I’ll do all I can to help no matter who it is.

Anyone who comes forward will will be treated with confidentiality.