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not booboo the fool.

@deeisherenow / deeisherenow.tumblr.com

some other idiot.

ATTENTION NEW TUMBLR USERS: This website is different from twitter and there are actually four (4) things that every blog needs. Go to the woods and fetch the cow as white as milk, the cape as red as blood, the hair as yellow as corn, the slipper as pure as gold

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it's SO funny that when asked what he had to do to prepared for his role in IWTV Sam Reid says he had to learn how to play the piano, learn to speak French, Italian, and English with a French accent. Bailey read IWTV religiously and added her own comments, and kept an actual fucking journal she wrote entirely as Claudia. meanwhile Jacob Anderson, when asked the same question, just responds with “oh nothing, i was already emo”. icons and legends only

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^!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thinking about lestat's soft genuine loving little smile when he looked at his sketch of louis

and thinking about how jaw-droppingly gorgeous louis looked at the ball wearing the outfit lestat designed and how much thought lestat must have put into every detail

AND thinking about how way back in episode one at the very beginning of their courtship louis helped lestat update his wardrobe, bringing him into the present day, welcoming him into louis's world.

and at the masquerade, at what they both think will be the end of their relationship, lestat is doing the same in reverse. welcoming louis back into his time, the time when his mortal life ended.

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in episode 6 daniel asks louis why lestat would hide his ability to fly and louis says lestat didn't want to make louis feel inferior for not being able to do it and it's like huh? why would louis believe that rather than the simple answer of lestat wanting to have a secret advantage?

and then we find out armand is open about being able to fly and puts shelves so high up that louis would be forced to ask armand to get a book for him and it's like oh. oh

man just when i think “maybe it’s not that funny” i remember that we’ve all silently agreed that Matteo JWHJ0715 is just. a normal name. yeah he’s the director what about it. his mother was italian and his father was a license plate

INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE

I am. OBSESSED.

Watched every episode twice, hopelessly in love with the 3 leads (vamps), all of it

I dont even LIKE horror stories, I watched the movie with all of the lights on in the middle of the day and won't watch again cause too scary but

GOTDAMN THIS SHOW IS SO GOOD?????

Like, the first time Louis received "the little drink" I was feeling all of the knots of conflict he was feeling

Like, gay in a time when being gay is impossible

And interracial relationship

And demon magic

And Wealth

And faith

And the séduction of something to relieve it all when you're at your lowest, consumed by grief

Ugh. Love it, need more right this minute

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It just kills me when writers create franchises where like 95% of the speaking roles are male, then get morally offended that all of the popular ships are gay. It’s like, what did they expect?

I feel this is something that does often get overlooked in slash shipping, especially in articles that try to ‘explain’ the phenomena. No matter the show, movie or book, people are going to ship. When everyone is a dude and the well written relationships are all dudes, of course we’re gonna go for romance among the dudes because we have no other options.

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Totally.

A lot of analyses propose that the overwhelming predominance of male/male ships over female/female and female/male ships in fandom reflects an unhealthy fetishisation of male homosexuality and a deep-seated self-hatred on the part of women in fandom. While it’s true that many fandoms certainly have issues gender-wise, that sort of analysis willfully overlooks a rather more obvious culprit.

Suppose, for the sake of argument, that we have a hypothetical media franchise with twelve recurring speaking roles, nine of which are male and three of which are female.

(Note that this is actually a bit better than average representaton-wise - female representation in popular media franchises is typicaly well below the 25% contemplated here.)

Assuming that any character can be shipped with any other without regard for age, gender, social position or prior relationship - and for simplicity excluding cloning, time travel and other “selfcest”-enabling scenarios - this yields the following (non-polyamorous) possibilities:

Possible F/F ships: 3 Possible F/M ships: 27 Possible M/M ships: 36

TOTAL POSSIBLE SHIPS: 66

Thus, assuming - again, for the sake of simplicity - that every possible ship is about equally likely to appeal to any given fan, we’d reasonably expect about (36/66) = 55% of all shipping-related media to feature M/M pairings. No particular prejudice in favour of male characters and/or against female characters is necessary for us to get there.

The point is this: before we can conclude that representation in shipping is being skewed by fan prejudice, we have to ask how skewed it would be even in the absence of any particular prejudice on the part of the fans. Or, to put it another way, we have to ask ourselves: are we criticising women in fandom - and let’s be honest here, this type of criticism is almost exclusively directed at women - for creating a representation problem, or are we merely criticising them for failing to correct an existing one?

YES YES YES HOLY SHIT YES FUCKING THANK YOU!

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Also food for thought: the obvious correction to a lack of non-male representation in a story is to add more non-males. Female Original Characters are often decried as self-insertion or Mary Sues, particular if romance or sex is a primary focus.

I really appreciate when tumblr commentary is of the quality I might see at an academic conference. No joke.

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This doesn’t even account  for the disparity in the amount of screen time/dialogue male characters to get in comparison to female characters, and how much time other characters spend talking about male characters even when they aren’t onscreen. This all leads to male characters ending up more fully developed, and more nuanced than female characters. The more an audience feels like they know a character, the more likely an audience is to care about a character. More network television writers are men. Male writers tend to understand men better than women, statistically speaking. Female characters are more likely to be written by men who don’t understand women vary well. 

But it’s easier to blame the collateral damage than solve the root problem.

Yay, mathy arguments. :)

This is certainly one large factor in the amount of M/M slash out there, and the first reason that occurred to me when I first got into fandom (I don’t think it’s the sole reason, but I think it’s a bigger one than some people in the Why So Much Slash debate give our credit for). And nice point about adding female OCs.

In some of my shipping-related stats, I found that shows with more major female characters lead to more femslash (also more het).  (e.g. femslash in female-heavy media; femslash deep dive) I’ve never actually tried to do an analysis to pin down how much of fandom’s M/M preference is explained by the predominance of male characters in the source media, but I’m periodically tempted to try to do so.

All great points. Another thing I notice is that many shows are built around the idea that the team or the partner is the most important thing in the universe. Watch any buddy cop show, and half of the episodes have a character on a date that is inevitably interrupted because The Job comes first… except “The Job” actually means “My Partner”.

When it’s a male-female buddy show, all of the failed relationships are usually, canonically, because the leads belong together. (Look at early Bones: she dates that guy who is his old friend and clearly a stand-in for him. They break up because *coughcoughhandwave*. That stuff happens constantly.) Male-male buddy shows write the central relationship the exact same way except that they expect us to read it as platonic.

Long before it becomes canon, the potential ship of Mulder/Scully or Booth/Bones or whatever lead male/female couple consumes the fandom. It’s not about the genders involved. Rizzoli/Isles was like this too.

If canon tells us that no other relationship has ever measured up to this one, why should we keep them apart? Don’t like slash of your shows, prissy writers? Then stop writing all of your leads locked in epic One True Love romance novel relationships with their same-sex coworkers. Give them warm, funny, interesting love interests, not cardboard cutouts…

And then we will ship an OT3.

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I’m going to bring up (invent?) the concept of subjectification.

As in, people gravitate to the characters given the most depth, complexity, and satisfying interactions for their shipping needs, because those characters are most human, and we want the realest characters to play with.

In a lot of media, the most depth gets handed to male characters.

And, oftentimes, even when the screentime and depth and interactions are granted equally well to female characters, there can be a level of, for lack of a better word, dis-authenticity to those female characters: they are pared down, washed out, or otherwise made slightly less themselves than they could be, in the interest of making them decorative, or likeable, or “good,” or keeping them from upstaging or emasculating their male companions, or just that the writer whose job it is to write them doesn’t know how to write women the way they write men.

And you get the characterization equivalent of that comparison chart where so many animated female characters have the same facial features because the animators and designers are so worried about not letting them be ugly.

When you have a group that’s allowed to be themselves, warts and all, and another group that has to be decorative at all costs, the impression given on some level is that the decorative quality is making up for a shortcoming. That they wouldn’t be enough in their own right.

And sometimes that cost is authenticity. The interesting, striking, awe-inspiring, bold and glorious unapologetic selfhood that draws the viewer most particularly to those characters who are unapologetic in their particular existence, standing clear of the generic and bland and unchallenging “safe” appearances.

It is authenticity, not beauty, which powers subjectification. The love for a character, not because they are perfect, but because they are them.

They can be pretty, sure. They can be sweet. But being pretty and sweet is not a replacement, and too many female characters have been written by writers who think it is, while the interest—in appearance, in personality, in interactions, in plot development—goes to the men.

And when that happens, well. Surprise, surprise, that’s where the shipping goes.

Yeah I don’t really ship but I do write a fair amount of fanfic, and in most franchises working with the female characters is a chore.

You have to do so much of the work yourself, because the canon left them unfinished, with huge gaps or unexplored contradictions that you have to somehow resolve. Every female character you decide to integrate into your fanwork in some major role constitutes an undertaking in her own right as you patch together an understanding of her sufficient to model a consistent set of reactions and priorities &c.

The dudes just get handed to you. Even the ones whose canon is a mess have properly developed character cores.

That you don’t have to unearth and piece together like some sort of volunteer archeologist coming up with theories way more complex than the available artifacts truly support.

Guys read this this is an amazing breakdown of it

not sure if anyone will care fo my two cents worth, but reading this all makes a lot of sense. in one show that i’m very attached to right now, i find it pretty hard to connect with any women characters. i see aspects of them that i relate to, but i truly connect more to a man in terms of entire character. this is not the case with a show like The L Word: Generation Q, in which the main cast is women-dominating. i don’t think i connect to a single man on that show and i find myself actively seeking out the content for the wlw relationships.

I realize I only post here when I am having a bad day.

Well, that's not changing today! I'm watching Lovecraft country, and listening to the podcast, and in the last episode there is a quote from Alexandre Dumas:

“He who has felt the deepest grief is best able to experience supreme happiness."

I I'm so sorrowful today. The only positive I can bring to this is I'm making room for the Greatest Joy.

But right now... only sadness.

I SWEAR. TO. GOD. MY EX HAS A GOOGLE ALERT FOR WHEN I FEEL LONELY AND NO ONE WILL EVER LOVE ME AGAIN.

The SECOND those defeatist thoughts bubble to the top of my mind, that asshole texts me.

STOP TALKING TO ME. YOU ARE IN A COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP WITH A WHOLE OTHER WOMAN. YOU ONLY TALK TO ME BECAUSE YOU ARE SEEKING VALIDATION. FFS.