Let‘s be real, this is the future MRAs and TRAs dream of

Let's be more real: The Handmaid's Tale is sadomasochism porn for feminists who are too twisted, self-hating, embarrassed and in denial to go on Pornhub like a normal person.

As I've said before, the conflation of Men's Rights Advocates and Trans Rights Activists is one of those maddening bits of feminist fantasy that I keep seeing repeated over and over again online with no grounding in reality: transwomen don't consider themselves "men" at all, so have no reason to consider themselves having any connection with the men's human rights movement.

Whereas, the MRAs tend to be conservative or libertarian-leaning, and so have no connection of any kind with the Left-wing Marxist identity politics that gave birth to the present gender ideology madness.

If you're a TERF, the MRAs are much more likely to be on your side on this issue than not. To lump them in with the "progressive" maniacs trying to put rapists into women's prisons is a nonsensical building and foolish attacking of a strawman that is weakening and hobbling your own cause. If you can step back from your hysterical and irrational man-hating fetish for just a moment, and try to see people as human beings instead of fantastical monsters, you'd find you had many allies who'd likely be willing to support you in your protests.

Posie Parker used to be a feminist and now is not; I used to be a feminist and now am not. But we both still believe in women's human rights and freedoms, and that it is imperative they be protected from predatory men. We both still believe that biological males should not be competing in women's sports.

And the thing is, the great majority of the population believes these things too, women and men: if you buy into a fictional narrative that tells you the great majority of the population hates you and wants to oppress you for some eternally-unclear reason, you are cutting yourself off from everyone outside your tiny echo chamber who might actually be eager to help you.

But to get to that place you have to unlearn and question at least a little of your ideological brainwashing and try see the world through clearer eyes. I promise you it's worth trying.

I’ve gotten to the point I have to stop being bothered by people smearing MRA’s etc in general. It’s that tweet that SYABM always posts. “90% of this platform is a person creating a strawman just so they can be mad about it”. Or something like that. Most of the MRA’s I’ve personally met actually respect women a lot and do not like misogynists at all. Also, as many misogynists joke about wishing a woman couldn’t talk, most would hate a world in which women can’t speak. Contrary to the idea otherwise. 

It's like feminists can't take a joke. You know the ones that will call any instance of misandry that not murder a joke in order to declare its not that big of a deal. Yeah they're the ones running around thinking Handmaid's Tale is going to being real life soon.

As a reminder, if someone says "punching Nazis makes you just as bad as the Nazis" go ahead and punch them, because they're a Nazi.

Thank you for demonstrating precisely why people shouldn't blindly trust Nazi accusations. Because they very quickly become an excuse to Other people who clearly aren't Nazis.

Including people who say "are you sure that guy you punched was actually a Nazi? How do you know punching will work? It didn't work with Richard Spencer. Heck, it was the best thing that ever happened to him."

This knee-jerk "with us or against us" thinking is a lot like what Nazis and other fascists and authoritarians have always said.

Also, this post was about vengeance, not antifa. Which implies you're the sort of person who's constantly looking for validation for their violent, terroristic beliefs.

/black non-American immigrant who explicitly opposes Nazis and authoritarianism

Apparently I'm a terrorist for having zero tolerance for defending Nazis. Anyone who defends a Nazi is a Nazi.

I'd rather be called a terrorist for standing for something and putting fear into people defending Nazis and the nazis than turn into someone like you.

I don't give a shit about you trying to take this as something else. I was talking about actual fucking Nazis. You started whining "but what if they're not a Nazi?"

Well what are they doing that makes people associate them with Nazis, eh? How close to the line are they allowed to get before we're "mean" to them by saying "hey, that makes you sound like a Nazi"?

What's your personal standard for when someones a "real" Nazi, vs walking like a Nazi, talking like a Nazi, supporting Nazi things?

ps: there's plenty of people (if you count Republicans as people) who think I, as a disabled transgender bisexual, socialist Pagan, am a Nazi, because they don't like me and think I'm trying to control the world or something. People know "Nazi" is a bad thing to be. You really fucking think it comes down to someone identifying as one, and no objective indicators? Fuck off. You're why people get as close to the line as they can but whine that people "think" they're a Nazi. Fuck you and fuck off.

Punch Nazis. When necessary, use fists.

Take vengeance on the people who think it's a "difference of opinion" when they I sister you shouldn't exist.

You are not obligated to "play nice" with ideologies that claim ideology is the same as just fucking existing in a way that people don't like. Take vengeance on the institutions and organizations that have already made people suffer just for existing "wrong."

And anyone who tells you you're a "terrorist" is an apologist for the people who've done this to people just living their lives, and shouldn't be trusted. Even if they're in a group who should know better.

is this, like, healthy for you? Is it actually making your or anybody else's lives better?

I love how, apparently, only Nazis can say "punching Nazis is bad and wrong".

Even when someone's viewpoint is "punching anyone over politics is terrorism" and "punching one particular Nazi actually benefited him immensely" and "I don't trust people like you to even identify Nazis" and also "Nazis and other authoritarians are bad and wrong".

It's like they deliberately tried to prove my point.

also there's the whole thing where any rando could say something like

"Hey, did you know Pinewhisky is a Nazi?"

And there are people who would just take that as any excuse to start punching whoever was said to be a nazi, even if they had nothing nazi-ish about them?

There's a lot of people who have ended up in situations like that, and gone "W

ait, you were only supposed to punish the bad people, not me!"

Okay just spit balling.

Black person punches white person. Is the white person justified to take revenge and attack them back?

I knew the MRA movement was bad but I can't say I predicted it would reach "trafficking women is a sign of being an alpha male"

First wave feminists letterbombed public places where children would be endangered, and tate is hated by mras, as he is purely PUA

These people think any dude who is vaguely male positive and feminist negative is a MRA

Well yeah, that's why feminists pushed the idea of the "Man-o-sphere" to try and associate PUAs, /r/TheRedPill, ReturnOfKings, etc under the same category as MRAs, ignoring that most of those groups actively dislike MRAs if not veering into hate.

And people like OP know that. But they don't care. Because The Cause™ is far more important than something as superfluous as intellectual integrity.

Remember that time these kinda folks and the mainstream press falsely blamed mass murderer Elliot Rodger on MRAs because one website got PUAs and MRAs mixed up? And even then, the website in his history was called, PUA Hate, because it was actually anti-PUA?

It was literally two giant degrees from being correct, but the lie was all over the mainstream news.

And for bonus points, the Narrative said he was nothing but a 'misogynist', even though he killed and injured twice as many men as women, and very openly hated men.

>ignoring that most of those groups actively dislike MRAs if not veering into hate.

MRAs return the favor too.

Not only that but for a few days right after Rodger committed that violence, some outlets quite only reported the female victims. As in they reported as him only attacking 2 women. Completely left out the 3 men.

But yeah it's an old tactic to intentionally lump them altogether and completely ignore that they active hate each other.

love how it’s basically a hate crime now to say “hey, hookups with random strangers are dangerous and while nobody is at fault for being the victim of a crime, there are definitely behaviors you can avoid to minimize your risk of being assaulted or murdered.”

Do you guys remember the Peak Discourse where radfems were screeching about how not only did discussing personal safety tips make you a rape apologist, if you were a woman who actually used any of those tips, you were basically complicit in someone else being raped, because making yourself a harder target meant that your would-be rapist would go after someone else, and that was somehow your fault? Or did I just have a uniquely bad experience with the internet in 2010

I feel like this was just you

Rhetorical question mate

Yea but people who usually treat an online group of women like the physical embodiment of evil usually are not sane. So i had to remind you that the post and your experience had nothing to do with radfems and probably was a psychotic break

Radfems are a comically evil cult of women... Why not?

I'm betting because Hoeofastro either is one or is friends with them, which is why they have nothing but "nuh-uh!" and baseless personal attacks.

I remember when one Slate columnist got mad because someone invented a nail polish that detects date rape drugs because "nobody should have to use it".

Correction: it was “I Shouldn’t Have to Dip My Nails In a Drink to Reduce My Risk of Rape”, and it wasn't Slate. It was on Time.com, by Soraya Chemaly. I made a comic about it. It clearly says women and girls should not have to be responsible for their own safety.

I also made one about the time some genius on Twitter said anti-rape tips were just passing the rapist buck, as if there's a constant amount of rape going on, and any rapist who can't commit rape against a given woman at any given time will always just rape some other woman.

Even though one popular tip is "carry a gun, and shoot rapists". I'm pretty sure that would probably stop his or her predations.

So no, it's not radfems, @sal-absinthii. It's mainstream feminists. Feminists have shouted "don't teach women not to get raped, teach men not to rape" for a very long time.

Radfems repeat that montra too, but yeah, mainstream feminists started it.

What I hate about that montra is IT ALREADY HAPPENS. Men are already taught not to rape. Rapists are considered such evil scum that lynching men just on the fucking ACCUSATION that he might have done it is considered an okay response. You have to literally shove your head up your ass to think men aren't taught not to rape. Literally, women are taught about the importance of consent less than men are. I mean seriously, the amount of women I've seen who think their consent is the only consent that matters cuz "men are always supposed to want it" is disgusting. And unlike with men, these women don't have the excuse that the sex they're interested in expects them to be mind readers and know when No doesn't mean No and when it does.

Not to mention actual laws that say it's not rape when women do it, only sexual assault. Like here in the UK.

The FBI's definition seems to say so, but they clarified that it does include made to penetrate. But that definition isn't a law. It's just for statistical purposes.

Yep.

Honestly, looking at shit like this is why I can't honestly get why people believe in a "patriarchy." What patriarchy lets shit like this happen??? What patriarchy benefits women more than men??? It makes no sense.

And that's when you see feminists start doing logical contortions to prop up the Narrative. The feminist definition of the Patriarchy is a society where men have all or most of the power, and use it to privilege men and oppress women.

In reality, a great deal of Patriarchies have conscripted countless men and forced them to fight in wars, and gone out of their way to protect women, by custom and law. In fact, men are commonly expected to protect women with their lives.

There are very few situations where someone is expected to risk their life to protect someone else, and the protector's life is considered worth more than the protectee. Some feminists have tried to argue that women are just a possession.

Which means ignoring how men are expected to protect women as women, specifically, not objects. If someone said "I'd take a bullet for my iPhone", people would look at them funny.

"love how it’s basically a hate crime now to say “hey, hookups with random strangers are dangerous and while nobody is at fault for being the victim of a crime, there are definitely behaviors you can avoid to minimize your risk of being assaulted or murdered.”"

What's wild is this standard is specifically only applied to women being attacked by men.

embarrassing

some of the comments of this post are concerning me… burning your ex alive after he was assaulted bc he was kind of an asshole is satisfying to you???? being repeatedly drugged by and indoctrinated into a cult is a ‘good ending’???? huh?????

Fellas, is it #girlboss to brutally murder your partner after he is r4ped

Yet again, people try and hide their criticisms of feminism by adding "white" in front of feminism.

They do that because they know what would happen if they didn't hide behind it. Without them "white" before feminists would trio over themselves to take it as a person attack and attack on all feminists. Because you know "not all feminists...."

But they know that white is the only label that has some degree of acceptance to criticize.

He was really good at planning ahead.

I assume his widow is getting his overtime pay?

Unless the widow/family are getting the wages he would have gotten if he were I've that means the college is basically using his ghost to avoid paying a replacement instructor.

Do you think tumblr will ever learn the difference between “I’m defending this person because I agree with them wholeheartedly and I am also like this person” and “I’m defending this person because your behavior is dangerous and you need to stop”

IMO, blurring the lines between “I’m defending them because they’re right” and “I’m defending them because you’re taking this too far” is step numero uno to cutting down the very existence of fair trial and democracy–even in places where saying that might seem a little dramatic. 

Mob mentality is extremely strong in humans and it’s also extremely dangerous. Mobs don’t think things through. Mobs kill and they destroy and they can’t be reasoned with. Someone trying to calm a mob down isn’t someone defending the ~problematic party~ It’s time we re-learn that.

This is me with bad arguments.

People mistake me disagreeing with their bad arguments with me disagreeing with their stance.

Is this related to "Just because I agree with A thing that someone said/did doesn't mean I am defending their entire body of work and everything they've ever said/done"?

crawling on my hands and knees begging you to be able to understand yourself as being complicit in a violent system without getting all defensive and going "so you think I'm an inherently evil person??" if we could just personal choice our way out of this we wouldn't be in this situation babes

Wholly get that, but also I think it’s hard to blame people for getting defensive about it because a lot of people -do- go on the offensive about it.

Like if there’s anyone creating the implication that being ‘complicit in a system’ is a serious moral offense, it’s lefties on social media.

I've been called a literal evil person by women for simply being male

If you don't want people to get defensive then quit being offensive towards them.

Corporate media loves the stale white male narrative. We need a better alternative.

White women out here voting just as conservatively as white men yet for some reason they get lumped in with women of color as saviors in the political world.

They are literally voting for politicians that want to take their abortion rights but they still get credit for "saving democracy from old white men".

FOH

Toddler: throws some shit at you bc they’re a toddler

Radfem: this is due to their innate male evilness.

i’m reblogging this again because sheaz you’re so right thank you for saying it. ladies take note you’re acting psychotic

I think I recently reblogged a post about a radfem doing this to a 4 year old.

So if the toddler is a girl then it's "smashing patriarchy" I guess?

Imagine getting mad that Lowes is giving documentation to their employees in case of confrontation with government officials to return to working AFTER the hurricane has passed.

While I agree I do think it’s shady of Lowe’s to put their employees in a situation where they’d be confronted by government officials. As I can easily see someone on a power trip getting really aggressive about this.

I mean it’s unfortunate, but Lowe’s (and other similar stores) are considered essential in response to dealing with hurricane aftermath. A lot of grocery chains (especially night shift workers) did something similar when COVID was peaking to mitigate conflicts with curfews and other restrictions.

I’m not sure if the antiwork poster misread the letter or is just straight up lying.

As long as it's voluntary I don't see a problem with that letter or its use.

Gender politics was a fucking mistake. Ppl will really be like "men don't have the capacity to have authentic, normal human emotions like women do" and act like that's peak feminism and not an utterly fucking deranged thing to say about another person

When you say shit like this you're just giving toxic men an excuse to continue being toxic. Boys Will Be Boys but wrapped in pink is not feminism.

I love how you don't even pretend to care about how it hurts men and boys.

When I talk about how intersectional feminism takes conversations and doubletalks with them, this is what I mean. Even if, perhaps, this wasn’t the intention of the OP and the post beneath them.

Arguments that go “racism is bad except”, “sexism is bad except”, “genocide is bad except” always set off internal alarms, and that’s how I know I still have a soul.

Also, "Boys will be Boys" in the sense used above is a feminist myth.

Men are generally held MORE responsible than women, and 'boys will be boys' is used to excuse silly behavior, not M>F rape and abuse, which are generally treated as heinous crimes.

I also don't see how it relates to sexists sneering at men's emotional capacity. At all.

Feminists put a lot of stock in the notion that "when a woman tells a guy something is sexist towards women, he shouldn't question her".

Pretty ironic that feminists also say that when a man tells a woman something is sexismt towards men that woman should not only tell him he is wrong but also what double speak to use in order to show that it's really sexism against women.

“Dude, Burris has a chicken legaaaaAAAAAAAAaaaaaaªªªª…”

AUDIO ON

Into the abyss

That guy went to the Upside Down and you can't tell me otherwise.

France is weird as hell

I believe this woman 110% this seems like a very French interaction

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/jul/03/they-said-i-dont-exist-but-i-am-here-one-womans-battle-to-prove-she-isnt-dead

Imagine having to go to a doctor to get a life certificate and then being told, “no you’re actually dead and we’re too stupid to deal with this right now”

Just tell the State that they can't legally tax a dead woman so you'd better be exempt from now on.

They'll declare you alive so goddamn fast.

My ancestral homeland could sure use another revolution right now.

This seems like a blueprint for how to get away with anything you want to do in France, just get yourself declared dead and they can’t hold you legally responsible for anything you do and clearly are incapable of reversing that legal definition of your death.

Yup. They'll recognize her as alive once they want to tax or punish her.

1. Commit a crime

2. Collect some form of wages

3. Try to claim any sort of benefits.

I bet a blank check you won't be able to do all 3 before the government suddenly figures out how to reinstate you as living.

Someone: I think individuals should have the right to defend themselves.

Some idiotic NPC who has no idea what words mean: Bootlicker!*

That same cosmobrain: Please, please prop up my fragile ego. That’s why I made this post, after all.

* Drink a sip.

They gonna fuck around and give Kyle a kill streak. How many people you think he gonna kill with a UAV?

Riots following the Rittenhouse verdict have been noticeably tempered. I wonder why? 🤔

Could it be because deep down, those that wanted to lynch Kyle know the buzz-word reasoning for finding him guilty was just strawman nonsense?

...or, are rioters scared that people will be more confident to stand up & defend themselves? Lol.

I feel this whole trial may have set a new precedent. I really hope it inspires more people to not be intimidated by the Left, and their media-backed mob. Stay armed and #DefendYourself

This is exactly what Im saying

there weren't any riots

because the left goes after the defenseless, and now they’re scared 

I still love how pants on head the idea of rioting to protest a guy who shot rioters is, especially if you say you're scared of similar shootings.

It's even funnier if you remember when BLM folks were going "if the right wants guns to defend from government tyranny, why aren't they protecting us from cops?"

Hold on. I thought they were Peaceful Protesters. If they just wanted to peacefully protest they could easily do that as long as they don't go around attacking people....

Arguing that opposing BLM means you’re racist is equivalent to arguing the only reason you can hate the Taliban is if you're an islamophobe. Tactics, violence, and actions matter.

And also the fact that BLM has never, not once, proven a single instance they complained about was actually because of racism, and they don’t even try anymore. They just assume.

Do you not support the Salvation Army? Then you must hate the homeless and charity.

Also apparently if you don't support feminism you hate women and are against equality itself.

the most powerful man in the world

Who the fuck is this man?

women in S.T.E.M (smuggling, treason, embezzlement, murder)

My first thought was, “It’s STEAM now, they’ve added arson” and I check the notes and like 15 other people have had the same thought. Well done everyone

I was thinking A for Arsenic or is that too old fashioned?

I think I found my new favorite thing.

...why are you grouping all non-white people together?

Black people and Asians are the same actually.

Also black people and asians don't have variety in them whatsoever.

What the fuck did I just read?

wait so whites now claim minority oppression?

Or does that suddenly no longer work