She is starving
It’s not her fault the replicator hates her
Boy that guy really came into this interview prepped with one question and one question only huh
i am NOT gaslighting you. i am lying to you. gaslighting implies a level of effort that i am simply not putting in. deceiving you does not require much
every time she mentions then she’s on the verge of tears laughing so hard. I’m so in love with her.
No love for Haven? I'm kinda surprised that Half A Life didn't get more votes.
Also, as someone who personally loves Cost Of Living the most, I'm glad I'm not the only one! Always loved the message about staying true to yourself, and enjoying life. The Muse would have been my second choice but alas, we got the creepy alien steals Jake Sisko's writing energy along as the A-plot XD
STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION (1987-1994) “Haven” (1.11)
the white suit tho
Great thought, but for those unaware, Kate Mulgrew’s gorgeous tux from The Killing Game was 100% a reference to Dietrich’s suit in Blonde Venus (1932) with Cary Grant, a pre-Code film directed by Josef von Sternberg. It’s hard to tell in Killing Game, but Mulgrew’s lapels are also sequined. So is the stripe in the trousers. It is basically a replica of Dietrich’s suit, no question.
Okay, so I have a PhD in queer fashion and media. So this is something I happen to know a lot about. So let me explain a few things.
For starters, You cannot get a more explicitly queer-coded woman than Marlene Dietrich.
Cary Grant (another closeted Queer in Hollywood) is also in Blonde Venus, and although their chemistry is great, their romance is unbelievable because it’s very clear that they are both absolutely queer. Hattie McDaniel appears in this film, another Queer in Hollywood (and the first Black person ever to win an Oscar). In both Blonde Venus and Morocco (1930), Dietrich flirts with both men and women. Dietrich was considered a Drag King in her day. She famously proclaimed, ‘I am a gentleman at heart.’
Dietrich often refused to wear trousers, and openly declared that she had plenty of women lovers. She is an iconic staple for queer sexuality even today. She famously kissed a woman in Morocco whilst wearing a tuxedo- with an audience watching and cheering. She then kisses a man, the audience applauds, and she exits. This scene (below) was added at Dietrich’s own behest. The scene was extremely controversial, and they had to defend it against the censors for months.
This very scene is one of the many reasons The Hays Code was enacted (rules from a super-Catholic man who bribed his way into Hollywood and forced the religious ideologies onto the screen), and this scene was one that The Hays Code often pointed to as ‘immoral’ and ‘perverted’ and ‘sexually explicit.’ You can thank the Hays Code for the split beds Lucy and Ricky had, for rules that a kiss must not last longer than a certain amount of time, that, absolutely, NO queer ANYTHING could be acknowledged to exist. Everything had to be subtext, and that’s why so many old black and white films feel really queer.
But Dietrich openly proclaimed herself queer, dressed in men’s clothing, kissed women on screen- and became a Queer icon not just in fashion, but in sexuality, decadence, and identity. The so-called famous ’Dietrich’s Sewing Circle’ (of which Hattie McDaniel was a member) was essentially every Queer woman in Hollywood who all had affairs with each other. Books have been written on this. Here’s a brief article about one of those books that goes through some of the basics.
Okay, Queer Fashion Film Academic, what’s your point?
The point is that by wearing a duplicate of a Dietrich suit- one where she openly flirted with women, no less–Janeway is 100% coded as queer in The Killing Game.
Especially with that tuxedo scene and the way she’s talking to Seven. In fact, most of the scenes in those episodes where she is talking to Seven, you will notice that Mulgrew plays Janeway with a bite- her eyes linger on Seven just a bit longer, her body language is just a bit more open and fierce than usual.
Even in Paris, for a woman to wear what Mulgrew/Janeway is clearly coding herself as a Queer person through that specific outfit. She is wearing a giant billboard that says I AM QUEER.
By putting Kate Mulgrew in a replica of a Dietrich 1940s tuxedo, Janeway is visually coded as queer through replication and imitation of one of the most Queer icons in cinematic history. That suit is too famous, too iconic, too specifically loaded with subtext and text of queerness through Dietrich.
I am convinced that the costume department 100% knew what they were doing, and part of me wonders if Kate Mulgrew herself had pushed for that suit. Why? Because Kate Mulgrew herself was the one who pushed for Janeway to have a same-sex relationship.
Watch Blonde Venus. Watch Morocco. Then, watch Kate Mulgrew in The Killing Game. She imitates Dietrich’s body-language, her mannerisms, the smirk, in that opening scene. There is no question- Janeway has been possessed by Dietrich’s characters.
Funnily enough, for the rest of those two episodes, Kate Mulgrew is also very clearly imitating another Queer woman through her voice intonation and mannerisms, general fashion and hairstyles: Katharine Hepburn.
Because of her absurd visual and voice similarity to Katharine Hepburn (another Queer in Dietrich’s sewing circle), Mulgrew once played Hepburn in Tea at Five.
Like Dietrich (bisexual), Hepburn was very clearly Queer coded, as she was a lesbian. She was also famous in Hollywood for her male-coded attire, though she preferred regular suits to Dietrich’s tuxedos.
She, like Dietrich, had the same problem whenever they teamed up with Cary Grant- watch Philadelphia Story and tell me that the real ending of that movie is not Hepburn’s character, Grant’s character and Stewart’s character all ending up in a thruple together. The movie makes no sense if that’s not the real ending.
Hepburn wore trousers on film sets and this upset the studio so much they literally stole her trousers, trying to force her into a skirt. Hepburn just walked around in her knickers, refusing to wear the skirt. Eventually, the studio gave her back the trousers.
Okay, I’m going off tangent. Here’s your takeaway:
Kate Mulgrew, (because she’s an absurdly amazing talent), is very heavily is influenced in mannerism, voice, accent and appearance by two of the most Queer-Coded women in cinematic history in The Killing Game. Through fashion and performance, she embodies Dietrich’s Blonde Venus and Morocco characters, and through appearance, voice and body language, she gives that image an additional layer of of Hepburn’s fierce, Queer persona.
Conclusion: Arguably throughout all of Voyager, but specifically In The Killing Game, Kathryn Janeway is visibly Queer.
By the way, although she never got credit for it, the person who wrote Blonde Venus was Dietrich herself. Both she and von Sternberg were suspended for several months because the movie was considered too salacious by the Hays code, and it caused production problems for over a year.
The BFI has a great write-up on Dietrich’s queerness and fashion, you can read it here: https://www.bfi.org.uk/features/my-best-girlfriend-queer-dietrich-screen
That white suit means so much more than you thought.
I'm always angry that Janeway wasn't allowed to have a romantic relationship with a woman, but now that I've found out that Kate Mulgrew specifically asked for a same-sex relationship and they refused, I'm extra mad.
Who is responsible? We need to talk.
Quote was from article above.
Homophobia was massive in the 90s and 00s. Absolutely massive. It's been amazing seeing it improve in the late 00s and 10s. And now because of the christofacist right we're seeing a huge resurgence in it.
i know i’m always saying this shit but society if the coming of age wesley birthday party scene hadn’t been cut… ☹️
the coming of age wesley birthday scene…..☹️😢😢 the coming of age wesley birthday scene. 😢 i will always remember you.
that’s where these pictures are from too. ugh . literally would’ve been such a good scene!!
Will Riker and Deanna Troi hugs in Star Trek | TNG | Nemesis | Picard
Moments in Star Trek I find very funny for some reason
Forbid someone sees him chilling for a moment
People who openly like Dr. Katherine Pulaski on fandom spaces are braver than any U.S. Marine truly
"But she was mean to Data 😔" YES!! yes she was she could be a straight up bastard! But she also raised questions about his nature and abilities that even Data couldn't answer - questions that should be asked! And she changed her viewpoint over time! She was a good doctor! She had stone cold humour! She was kind to Worf! She had prejudiced ideas but when she was wrong she addressed it! That's an interesting character and it's a shame we didn't get to see more of it!
For my money, the best scene showing Pulaski's growth is from Pen Pals. The scene where they're discussing the prime directive and how it's supposed to keep emotions from influencing judgment and this exchange happens:
Pulaski: "My emotions are involved. Data's friend is going to die. That means something."
Worf: "To Data"
Pulaski: "Does that invalidate the emotion?"
And the whole senior staff shuts up, the room is silence and stunned expressions. She's on Team Data 100% for no other reason than Data thinks this is the right thing to do.
This illustrates just how much growth Pulaski has gone through. She goes from "I don't trust the judgment of a machine" to "I implicitly trust Data's judgment in interpreting our highest law, which we all took an oath to uphold". As far as she knows, Data's primary motivation for wanting to intervene is personal attachment.
She wasn't sure Data was even capable of that kind of relationship when she arrived on the ship. Now she's ready to risk her career supporting Data. (If Starfleet Command doesn't agree with their reasoning for intervening to save Sarjenka and Drema IV, the crew could be reprimanded, demoted, or even court martialed)
I have been called ableist and transphobic? for liking her character arc. It took MANY messages to get across the idea that I enjoy that we saw her growth. It wasn’t dramatic. It was just sincere learning, and I think the world needs more examples of characters that become better and show that it is possible to have growth.
[ID: 13 gifs from season 3, episode 1 “the search, part 1” from the tv series “star trek: deep space nine”, the gifs show benjamin sisko and jadzia dax in the wardroom. jadzia is seated while sisko is standing in front of a monitor.
1st gif: “you know, after jennifer died, i never thought i would see you this passionate about something again.” jadzia tells sisko.
2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th gif: the camera shifts to sisko, who has his arms are crossed in front of him and takes a couple of steps forward, the camera moves with him, “two months ago, i would have agreed with you.” he takes a seat, and the camera focuses on him. “then i went back to earth and i spent all those weeks debriefing at starfleet headquarters. and i… i used to get a thrill just walking into that building. i'd look around at the admirals and think, "one day, that's going to be me." "one day, i'm the one that's going to be making the big decisions."” sisko is slightly smiling at the end.
7th gif: jadzia laughs as she recalls, “curzon always thought that was very funny.”
8th, 9th gif: the camera cuts to sisko, “did he?” then back to jadzia as she explains, “what i mean is he could never see a set of admiral stars on your collar. he thought that just making the decisions would never satisfy you. you had to implement them – “
10th gif: a shift to show sisko listening to jadzia, “see the results, face the consequences.”
11th gif: “curzon always thought you were the kind of man who had to be in the thick of things -- not behind some desk at headquarters.”
12th gif: “he was a smart old man, wasn't he?” sisko gets up and returns to the monitor.
13th gif: “he'd like to think so.” jadzia confirms. /end ID]
just found this old video that completely fucking broke my editing software while making it