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mostly posting about Yellowjackets, occasionally The Locked Tomb these days. ask me anything!
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KEY UPDATES FROM THE QUEER FANTASY PANEL WITH TAMSYN MUIR AT THE BRITISH LIBRARY

  • We will find out in Alecto the Ninth whether Kiriona's chest has teeth or ribs.
  • She cites Final Fantasy and Animorphs as intros to SFF. On Animorphs: "Nobody's safe in that book. Everyone's dead by the end. It was an influence."
  • The 1.5 page outline of the Locked Tomb was written in the back of a notebook which Tamsyn was using to teach herself Latin. She has (except for the detail of Gideon being a fireman) followed this guide throughout.
  • She is still writing Alecto the Ninth. She feels tremendous pressure, primarily from herself, to produce a satisfactory ending.
  • On Tasha Suri saying she still doesn't know what Homestuck is after watching a 2 hour video about it: "Neither do I."
  • She says she is working through creating the balance between a Catholic worldview and the critique of imperialism. She hopes that the balance will be struck correctly. "I'm kinda worried about being excommunicated. For one scene in particular."

Hope to post a full transcript tonight or tomorrow.

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Not sure how common this interpretation is, but I've always thought of the Jackie cabin sequence in the season 1 finale as Shauna's dream, not Jackie's. Mainly because she directly wakes up from it, but also because it makes perfect sense that Jackie would be the main character in Shauna's dream, as Jackie being the main character in Shauna's life is the crux of the argument they had that preceded all this and their conflict in general. Shauna dreaming of taking Jackie inside, apologizing to her, telling her she loves her, all of the things she could have and should have done to fix it and now will never get the chance to because they're just kids having a fight but they're not in a "normal" fixable situation anymore and some mistakes can never be rectified.

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natalie saving travis from ritualized slaughter in Doomcoming vs travis saving nat from ritualized slaughter in It Chooses... javi running away to his tree cave in Doomcoming vs javi running away to his tree cave (not quite) in It Chooses...

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do you guys ever think about how the last person Natalie saw alive was Misty, and the last person she saw in her dream as she died was Lottie, and the fact that Travis did not show up in the dream at all?

i ended up thinking too much about it and, to be fair, this is coming from my totally biased anti-travis pov, but i think this was finally the show contradicting itself and showing that the epic love story or whatever they've been trying to push between nat and travis is... not that epic.

considering all the visions the yellowjackets character have when they're dying or almost dying, we know Jackie got everyone and specially Shauna saying they loved her, we know Coach Scott got to make different choices and stay with his boyfriend, we know Lottie got to see Laura Lee and all her friends alive and well and happy, we know Shauna got to have her baby and finally have the baby accepting her... basically the characters see everything they want most in that moment. maybe what they need? and still Natalie didn't see Travis at all??

she got to see Javi, her biggest source of guilt, reassuring her and in a way forgiving her. she saw her teenage self, resigned but unafraid. she saw teenage Lottie, offering comfort, peace, acceptance before the end. but there was No Travis. he was just not a part of what she wanted or needed the most at the moment of her death.

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I don't think this is necessarily a case of the show finally contradicting itself so much as it is unreliable narration of sorts from Natalie's perspective, who maybe frames it as an epic love story because she was bound to him at 17/18 by a guilt she'd feel for the rest of her life. She is already lying about him, to herself and to us, when she says "Travis never believed any of this shit" when clearly he did, so there's an established pattern of self-delusion around Travis. The first non-Natalie POV we get on their relationship back in season 1 comes from Taissa, who calls it "a toxic fucking trainwreck" (and Shauna agrees). I don't think Travis could give her any peace because the thing that bound her to him was Javi's death, and Javi was already there. But also, maybe Travis never gave her peace. The last time they are together, she's overdosing. So I'm not sure that's meant to be an epic love story.

Now Lottie appearing, that's interesting. Maybe because adult Lottie was the last person to try and "save" her - but it's teen Lottie we see, so maybe there's more to come from that story.

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One thing I did notice about Shauna's Adam Martin storyline, spanning both seasons, is that it starts and ends with Callie. Shauna uses Jeff's apparent infidelity (actually blackmailing lmaooo) as an excuse to start the affair, but it's a small argument with Callie over the phone about taking out meat for the stew in s1e2 that actually causes her to rear end Adam's car. And then, once that storyline is finally fully wrapped up in the season 2 finale, the open thread in Shauna's storyline is Callie: Callie, who has been lying to the cops to protect her mom from a murder charge she knows is correct, who just found out about her brother, who stole a gun and shot a woman to protect her mom, who was pronounced "powerful" by the woman she just shot who in turn seems ecstatically happy to meet her for reasons she couldn't possibly know, who just witnessed a tragic death the import of which she couldn't possibly understand, who just met all of her mom's friends at the worst moment of their adult lives, who Shauna sees has a strange smile on her face at the very end as she watches events unfold. Callie, who Shauna has kept at arm's length for her entire life until she finally made her an accomplice to the trauma she hides so deep underneath the bored housewife exterior.

Sure, Jeff and the nature of their failmarriage is heavily involved too, but he already knew and accepted at least whatever Shauna wrote down in her journals. Shauna's relationship with Callie is what has fundamentally changed.

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akilah having all the red flags and death flags with her desperately wanting to go home and studying for finals and talking wistfully about how she wants to see her family again VERSUS akilah being introduced subtley in the first episode, given a lingering shot to herself, being told she has to earn her seat and then getting food from mari,..,.,,.

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“Once upon a time, there was a place called The Wilderness. It was beautiful and full of life, but it was also lonely and violent and misunderstood. So, one day, The Wilderness built a house. It waited. Summers came. Winters came—” YELLOWJACKETS: 103. The Dollhouse / 201. Friends, Romans, Countrymen / 209. Storytelling

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Lottie doesn’t sacrifice herself because she wakes up from her vision. She says “no” to the wilderness for the first time and when she does they lose the moose and it stops talking to her. It doesn’t save the baby. It lets them starve until Nat lets it choose Javi.

Not sure what post this is referring to but I will def keep an eye out for that episode during my rewatch - I started the pilot like the day after the season 2 finale aired because I couldn't help myself. Excited to revisit both seasons now because there are so many layers to this onion.

That said, I realized the other day that at the beginning of Qui, Mari says "wilderness, I hope Shauna doesn't die!" (or something like that) and the wilderness gives them exactly that - Shauna doesn't die, but the baby does. The baby is the sacrifice for Shauna to live. (Or, you know, they're starving teenagers, so the baby was always going to die, if you prefer the rational explanation.) I just missed this connection because I was too busy laughing as it's about the only moment of lightness in the teen timeline that episode. So I'm not sure I would agree that Lottie failing to sacrifice herself was at fault for that in Yellowjackets cosmology. Interesting food for thought though 🤔

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Actually, thinking about this a bit more, I remembered that Laura Lee is the one who wakes Lottie up in that vision. Laura Lee has already been claimed by the wilderness, if you will. So I wonder if that was setting up a recurring theme of the wilderness refusing Lottie's various attempts at self-sacrifice in spite of the fact that she so badly wants to die. (🥺)

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Hey, hope you're doing all right! Have you read Nona? What did you think of it?

So sorry I missed this, I didn't even know I had an ask in here! I'm doing great! I haven't read any books in a while but I did finish NtN and recently-ish Simon Jimenez' The Spear Cuts Through Water, which I think a lot of you would love. I got to nominate both of them for the Hugo Award for best novel this year, so that was quite fun.

I loved Nona, which I was a little skeptical about as it's essentially a long prologue spun off into its own book for publishing business reasons - that does show in the final product, I think, but it also does work surprisingly well as its own thing. As ever it was completely different than anything I could've possibly expected from a third Locked Tomb book, or any other book I've ever read really, but that's why we love these books, right? It feels like sort of a side adventure focusing on all of the characters we didn't get to see in the last book, and once I made peace with that, I really enjoyed it. And I LOVE Nona the character with my WHOLE entire heart and I loved all of her weird little friends at the schoolhouse, too, and was sad to see them go. I've yet to reread it but I'm sure I'll be collapsing when I get back to the scenes of Varun the Eater speaking through Judith because I sure did not catch onto that the first time through.

Also, I gasped when I realized Tamsyn was writing Paul the first apostle of Jesus into this book. She's ridiculous. I would read the phone book if she rewrote it and filled it with fart jokes and allusions to the Epic of Gilgamesh, what can I say.