“My body, my choice” only makes sense when someone else’s life isn’t at stake.
Fun fact: If my younger sister was in a car accident and desperately needed a blood transfusion to live, and I was the only person on Earth who could donate blood to save her, and even though donating blood is a relatively easy, safe, and quick procedure no one can force me to give blood. Yes, even to save the life of a fully grown person, it would be ILLEGAL to FORCE me to donate blood if I didn’t want to.
See, we have this concept called “bodily autonomy.” It’s this….cultural notion that a person’s control over their own body is above all important and must not be infringed upon.
Like, we can’t even take LIFE SAVING organs from CORPSES unless the person whose corpse it is gave consent before their death. Even corpses get bodily autonomy.
To tell people that they MUST sacrifice their bodily autonomy for 9 months against their will in an incredibly expensive, invasive, difficult process to save what YOU view as another human life (a debatable claim in the early stages of pregnancy when the VAST majority of abortions are performed) is desperately unethical. You can’t even ask people to sacrifice bodily autonomy to give up organs they aren’t using anymore after they have died.
You’re asking people who can become pregnant to accept less bodily autonomy than we grant to dead bodies.
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But, assuming the mother wasn’t raped, the choice to HAVE a baby and risk sacrificing their “bodily autonomy” is a choice that the mother made. YOu don’t have to have sex with someone. Cases of rape aside, it isn’t ethical to say abortion is justified. The unborn baby has rights, too.
First point: Bodily autonomy can be preserved, even if another life is dependent on it. See again the example about the blood donation.
And here’s another point: When you say that “rape is the exception” you betray something FUNDAMENTALLY BROKEN about your own argument.
Because a fetus produced from sexual assault is biologically NO DIFFERENT than a fetus produced from consensual sex. No difference at all.
If one is alive, so is the other. If one is a person, so is the other. If one has a soul, then so does the other. If one is a little blessing that happened for a reason and must be protected, then so is the other.
When you say that “Rape is the exception” what you betray is this: It isn’t about a life. This isn’t about the little soul sitting inside some person’s womb, because if it was you wouldn’t care about HOW it got there, only that it is a little life that needs protecting.
When you say “rape is the exception” what you say is this: You are treating pregnancy as a punishment. You are PUNISHING people who have had CONSENSUAL SEX but don’t want to go through a pregnancy. People who DARED to have consensual sex without the goal of procreation in mind, and this is their “consequence.”
And that is gross.
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The person that’s trying to excuse killing babies while claiming she’s ethical. Hilarious.
We can say the same about a woman that wants the child calling it a baby, but if she doesn’t want it it’s a clump of cells or a parasite. That argument can go both ways, darling.
I would agree your argument is valid when it comes to a one time abortion. However, I have know people that are in favor of letting a baby die if they survived an abortion, despite it no longer being part of the woman’s body and now is in fact a living human being.
With the blood transfusion argument, there is no way that only one person on earth can in fact give a blood transfusion is honestly the dumbest argument when in fact YOU did make the choice to sleep with someone without protection and are now saying you are being punished for it. No one chooses to get into an accident, but you do choose to get pregnant because you were irresponsible. It was your stupid decision to get pregnant, so yes, you have to face the consequences. Deal with it.
So you admit that you view forced pregnancy, and the violation of a person’s medical wishes for their own body, as a punishment for someone being “irresponsible” by having consensual sex.
That’s so dark and so sad.
(Also, given that well over 99% of abortions happen before 21 weeks, and viability isn’t until 24 weeks AT THR ABSOLUTE earliest, and almost all abortions last 21 weeks are for medical need…the idea that there are “babies surviving abortion” is just absolute propaganda nonsense.)
This whole reply just really makes it clear that anti-abortion advocates are deeply misinformed and naive about why some people choose abortion, and they don’t bother to find out because they fundamentally don’t care about those people.
“choose to get pregnant,” like this isnt some random side effect of biology that occasionally supersedes preventative measures and other times flat out arbitrarily does not function.
Exactly. Like, there’s the whole issue of sex serving MANY functions besides just procreation, but also that fertility itself is way more fickle than that. People who can become pregnant are not baby vending machines- pop in the right amount of sperm and a perfectly healthy little baby is garaunteed to come popping out.
But this is also just a deep, deep rejection of what *consent* means. Consent is an ongoing, specific thing. The idea that consent to sex with 1 person would then legally obligate you to 40-ish weeks to pregnancy (to bring a totally different person to term) just *isnt* respecting consent.
And ultimately it’s tragic because the kind of person that these anti-abortion advocates always seem to target (able bodied cis women in safe romantic relationships, stable housing, adequate finances with no health complications and a safe, viable pregnancy) ultimately aren’t the people who will be the MOST harmed by anti-abortion measures. Those women will be harmed, yes, but the degree to which EVERYONE ELSE who can get pregnant will be hurt, or killed, by these measures never even once crosses the minds of prolifers. They either don’t know or don’t care about the ways in which forced pregnancy can be a tool of abuse, can be a life threatening event, can be a financial and social crudgle with which to push back against the rights and liberties and humanity of anyone who can get pregnant.


























