a few notes on why I dislike girljanitor/medievalpoc: Jewish edition
So I do have screencaps that I can add in case girljanitor/medievalpoc removes any of the existing links here.
Do I even need to say how messed up it is that GJ/Mpoc thinks it’s okay for them to make grossly oversimplified statements about complex Jewish identities (both historical and modern)? They are not Jewish, they do not deal with the complexities of Jewish identity or racialization or othering; they simply decided that they get to call Jews white.
Um, no. There are white Jewish people. and there are Jewish people of color. Race does not equal religion. People of color were not marginalized during the European Middle Ages, but Jewish people definitely were.
shows that GJ/Mpoc thinks that Jewishness=Judaism=religion.
In contrast, people of color are marginalized in the realm of representation in Art History now, including depictions of Jewish people of color, where white Jewish people are not.
shows that GJ/Mpoc does not actually know that Jews’ supposed whiteness has pretty much no practical application in European art, because Jews are still not seen as white in Europe. This is a fact and you can hear it from many bloggers in Europe; they are simply not treated on strict lines of colorism (of course, in America while much of Jewish whiteness operates on lines of colorism, it also operates on lines of how willing Jews are to align themselves with white supremacy and other such complex things as that). Making this distinction is absolutely useless.
Read the rest of the post if you want. It’s all pretty superficial.
My Grandmother B. was a Holocaust survivor, and Polska Roma. She fled the war, coming to America concealed in a large suitcase carried by a white Jewish family. Today, our family still talks about the debt we owe that family, which perhaps cannot ever be repaid.
Let’s get this straight. GJ/Mpoc has set the stage here for us, so I’ll just sum it up:
- Their grandmother is a “Holocaust survivor,” so we can assume that this happened during or after 1933 in Nazi Germany. (In another post they say “WW2,” which means that we are setting it at 1939 in Nazi Germany.)
- Grandmother B is Rroma and not white-passing in Nazi Germany. Believable.
- The family that carries Grandmother B is Jewish and not just white-passing, but actually white, in Nazi Germany. Bullshit.
Continue on down for a rather short explanation of why this is bullshit.
Say whatever you want, but you don’t flee WW2 Germany hidden in a fucking suitcase carried by a Jewish family because you had a little ideological spat with Hitler. You come to this country hidden in a fucking suitcase because you don’t pass for white. And maybe you son does sometimes, and your grandsons tell people they’re “Sicilian” but that doesn’t erase you, Gramma Blake.
Okay, so another quick summary.
- GJ/Mpoc’s Rroma grandmother (or great-grandmother, they cannot seem to decide) did not pass for white; because she did not pass as white, she was hidden in a suitcase, carried out of Nazi Germany, and brought to the United States.
- A Jewish family apparently did pass for white; because this Jewish family in Nazi Germany somehow passed for white, they were able to carry a large suitcase that was never checked at ANY point, and left Nazi Germany for America with no problems.
Aside from the fact that this story is almost definitely fabricated, the details of it as well as how GJ/Mpoc talks about it makes it clear that they do not care about perpetrating harmful shit about Jews.
What they say here is basically that in Nazi Germany, Jews could pass as white. (Made more evident in the earlier quote, when GJ/Mpoc says “white Jewish family”!)
Even though at this point in time was when the Nazi party was attempting to return Jews to their original state as (officially) racially persecuted instead of just religiously persecuted, meaning that conversion didn’t make them exempt from persecution–that is, Jews were attacked as a race, not a religion. It doesn’t matter how much GJ/Mpoc wants to pretend that Jews can be white because it’s “just a religion,” NAZI GERMANY IMPLEMENTED LAWS THAT MADE JEWS TO BE CONSIDERED A RACE. AND THEN LAWS THAT OPPRESSED THEM BECAUSE OF THIS.
Jews were not considered white when there were arguments about what made someone count as racially Jewish–namely how many Jewish grandparents were needed to be counted as of the Jewish race. Whiteness was simply not a privilege extended to Jews in Nazi Germany, and it’s fucking ludicrous to think that anyone would ever think that it was. Yet here we have GJ/Mpoc, the person you’ve all entrusted to bring you accurate European history (and accurate representations of race in Europe!), claiming that Jews in Nazi Germany were actually white.
Also, just as an extra note? How does GJ/Mpoc know that the family that carried their grandmother was “white Jewish?” If their Rroma ancestry is supposedly so shut up, how do they know the skin color of their grandmother’s rescuers? (Who probably didn’t exist or were warped for the story.)
That’s all I have right now for call-outs. I might find out more later that they’ve said about Jewishness. They’ve obviously done more messed up things, but this is specifically the Jewish-related things.