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CLADISTICS ruined my life

yall joke but this is actually a serious conundrun with cladistic-based classification

The choice is this: 

Birds are reptiles 

Or crocodilians (and probably turtles) ARENT 

That’s it, that’s the choice 

What if Bird and reptiles are two different things that came from the same thing

Nope 

Because you can’t group (lizards, snakes, tuatara, turtles, crocodilians) without also including (birds) 

So if you don’t want to include birds in reptiles then you have to leave out some things we’ve called reptiles 

birds are dinosaurs though, full stop. we’ve already defined what a dinosaur is and it includes birds. but reptiles isn’t really defined so much as thrown against a wall angrily. 

But don’t turtles and alligators have more in common with modern reptiles than modern birds have in common with modern reptiles? I’m not trying to contradict, I’m trying to understand. Mammals and reptiles have a common ancestor as well, but we do not make them the same group.

It’s not about having things in common. It’s about common ancestry, which is how we classify animals in light of extinct species, which defy trait-based classification. 

And, the common ancestor of [lizards, snakes, tuatara, turtles, crocodilians] by definition is also the common ancestor of birds. It is NOT the common ancestor of mammals. 

So, either we decide that Tuatara Lizards and Snakes are the only reptiles, or we include birds as reptiles. Or we just decide reptiles are no longer a thing. 

don’t throw reptiles against the wall? please? some of them are small and delicate. you could hurt them.

Basically, unless we’re maybe talking massive horizontal gene transfer, everything is still part of the group that came before it. 

You are technically a fish.

IIRC the fish thing is so frustrating that scientists have decided fish is just not real cladistic grouping at all

hey could we go back please to the bit where the closest relative of Birds is Crocodiles? bc I am alarmed

Well, technically they’re equally-closely related to crocodiles, alligators, gharials and tomistomas. As archosaurs, they’re all descended from small reptiles that looked something like this 

The two main groups of archosaurs are the Pseudosuchia, or crocodile-line archosaurs, and the Ornithodira, or bird-line archosaurs. Both groups were massively diverse in prehistory, with the Pseudosuchia dominating most land-based niches in the Triassic, and the Ornithodira, especially the dinosaurs, doing the same during the Jurassic and Cretaceous. However, most of them have been wiped out due to the Triassic and Cretaceous mass extinctions, leaving them each with only one surviving clade: Aves, the true birds, and Crocodylia, the semiaquatic, ambush predators like crocs and gators. 

This entire post sums up everything we’re not allowed to mention in our Vertebrata classes because the last time someone started that argument they had to break up a fistfight.

I’m just hung up on the humans evolving from fish comment.

Like, we evolved from tiny tree-climbing squirrels. To the best of our knowledge.

…which evolved from tiny tree-climbing reptiles

…which evolved from amphibians

…which evolved from fish.

*runs in ten minutes late with a plucked chicken* BEHOLD A LIZARD

you could have left the feathers on this time tbh

It was already plucked. They just STOLE IT from philosophy 101.

Every turn on this post has been a left, but somehow it hasn’t hit itself, and instead just spiralled outwards like some Ancient Greco-Roman floor design, enveloping taxonomy Tumblr in chaos.

May I recommend the book “why fish don’t exist” by Lulu Miller

May I recommend

the book “why fish don’t exist”

by Lulu Miller

Beep boop! I look for accidental haiku posts. Sometimes I mess up.

Also fun fact! There are bird hipped dinosaurs and lizard hipped dinosaurs.

Guess which ones birds are descended from

Nightmare had enough

//cw- hackett is fucking naked my god (nothing is actually shown)

the sinner and the snake

oh good lord almighty

oh jesus christ almighty

Some art of Venus's BEAUITFUL Demon!Hackett n Priest!Woods <33

@venus-screams-here [Lookie lookie mfrs]

Warning: Suggestive, someone has their butt out....<3

Dirty, dirty boy.

You know everyone is talking on the scene.

I hear them whispering 'bout the places that you've

And how you don't know how to keep your business clean.

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//cw- hackett is fucking naked my god (nothing is actually shown)

the sinner and the snake

Shart

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I'm aroace so like I'm fruity the way tomatoes are fruits

YOU THINK I’M JOKING BUT I’M DEAD SERIOUS

one day this comic will reach a million notes and then i’m going to quit my job and become a couch

Huh? What’s this? I don’t remember ordering something that big.

Oh, it’s a sofa? I already have one, though…

Hang on, my job sent me this? Is this some sort of bonus or something?

Huh??? It’s empty?? Then why was it so heavy…

Oh hang on what’s this?

I’m not sure I can reach it…

Oh crap!!!!

Everyone who isn’t reblogging this version is a coward and a villain

I'm being so strong about eating a shit ton of fucking chopped up tomatoes that's making my stomach feel icky rn. <3

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Me and @blackkatdraws's narrators have a really sweet friendship 💛 I mean, can you blame em? What goes together better than Black and Gold? Thank you for being an inspiration and friend! It's so cool and surreal going from fan to collaborator. I hope you love the painting :)

Thought i would post this here

they are walking the runway 🗣️

(@blackkatdraws narrator with mettaton 🙌)

Idiot stuck in glue trap

OH NO @indigo-art GOT STUCK TOO NOOOO

LMAOOOO IM CRYINGGG

Haha Idiots I was the one who set it up all along

@blackkatdraws @indigo-art @grimmrabbits

He's angy, Mantra better hope he doesn’t get out quickly

thought id join in

Buzz

THE EVIL HAS BEEN DEFEATED!

@deviousnarrator @blackkatdraws @indigo-art @paradoxspir1t @filllury @scraamingn @clingacat @grimmrabbits I DONT KNOW ANYONE ELSES TUMBLR IM SORRY-

Um...so how do we get out tho?

Will fully color when I have time and will post it on my blog/profile!!!

Also these lovely people here:

@blackkatdraws @indigo-art @deviousnarrator @paradoxspir1t @scraamingn @filllury @bucketttt4

(sorry if I forgot to add your name in the comic I'll do that when Im done coloring)

LATE RESPONSE but here 😭

@paradoxspir1t @filllury @indigo-art @scraamingn @grimmrabbits

he then proceeded to scream for 20 minutes.

GET.. ME OUT! I HAVE OIL! AND OW!! MY NOSE!!

timekeeper pushed him in. Sad! oh well, there's other narrators

My narrator is a little clueless, but he's got the spirit! @blackkatdraws's narrator because I drew their's the most :)

And for the rest of the time he was stuck there, he refused to sit down to get his new coat dirty.

All the Narrators design included: @blackkatdraws @indigo-art @deviousnarrator @pinkpegacorn @ling-doodles-draws @chainlink34 @scraamingn @paradoxspir1t @filllury @bucketttt4 @silvermoon279-madam

(Sorry it's a bit messy)

He didn't think things through. @blackkatdraws @deviousnarrator @pinkpegacorn @ling-doodles-draws @chainlink34 @scraamingn @paradoxspir1t @filllury @bucketttt4 @silvermoon279-madam @jaydentv @vellichorom ( ;) )

oh, you poor, poor thing. you misunderstand. I'm ONLY here to Watch. ( ft @chainlink34, @blackkatdraws, & @indigooey's NARRATORS! )

The glue trap is now disappearing purple

(Also screw you @vellichorom for pushing him in /lh /pos /j)

PUSHED HIM IN AUIAHUISHKU3HEIUHFGH

Timekeeper at it again with the bullshit

((*push*))

“WHA- NO- NO WHYYY… BETTAYLL!! MY CHILD WHY?! SQUILLA WHYYYY…”

oh shit... @blackkatdraws@vellichorom@coralkrill@bullpup-blog@wilted-woods

We're getting pulled out by @wilted-woods but they pull too hard and my old man breaks :(

(his name is Black btw :3)

ahem ahem lore in tags AHEM btw this is the continuation of Indigo-art's drawing :)

@indigo-art @vellichorom @anotheroneofthegaysharks @peripalz @jaydentv @chainlink34 @pinkpegacorn @deviousnarrator @scraamingn @ling-doodles-draws @bucketttt4 @filllury @paradoxspir1t @kittygameratx @polly-porygon @sleepymushrxxm @theblackcubeofdarkness @bullpup-blog @inkedover @cloverlux @supergnome-a @crystalwinterfeld @romballs-exe @silvermoon279-madam @animsay28 @hamburger-harbinger @clingacat @sasiyuri @r3naissancee @pinkpegacorn @grimmrabbits

Reblog if you're not homophobic

Every url that reblog’s will be written in a book and shown to my homophobic dad. 

Reblog or ELSE

Reblog or ELSE

Reblog or else you won’t get to piss off op’s dad

The Narrator seems a bit under the weather... A virus, perhaps?

Man’s been bitten by the Lovebug AU uwu