What's your relationship with Arthurian lore?
And in your opinion what's is the ultimate version or retelling of the mythos?
I am a big fan! I’m not an expert by any means, but I have done likely more reading than the average person. I also taught an introductory class for high school aged kids and have been on a couple podcasts talking about Arthurian topics.
I’m also roughly a week away from completing a translation of Geoffrey of Monmouth’s History of the Kings of Britain, the first extended narrative on the life of Arthur after short references in historical annals and appearances in Welsh myth and so on. This is a project that has been updating a couple times a week on my Patreon, and you can check it out here:
Also I turned a couple of my lectures from the class I taught into videos because I was quarantined, you can watch those below.
As for the ultimate version, I don’t want to be basic, but it’s Malory’s Le Mort D’Arthur 🤷♀️ I am a huge fan of White’s Once and Future King, but even a passing familiarity with Malory before reading that one couldn’t hurt.
FYI: You don't have to use my inter-library loan suggestion to see "Possession"(1983); it's now streaming on Shudder.
Yeah! I have watched it! It is……..pretty wild
Hello have you ever written about the pre-code era? Or do you know where I could learn more about this part of film history (especially re: horror)?
This isn’t as far as I remember something I’ve written on at length but I think you would find what you’re looking for in the early episodes of @screamscenepodcast
Previously, on Apocrypals part 5: The Fifth One
As we begin our sixth (!) calendar year of Apocrypals, here is a list of the texts we have covered so far on the show in case you want to read along or catch up. They’re arranged in a way that appeases my systematic nature.
Tanakh/Old Testament:
- Genesis (episodes 16-20)
- Exodus (episodes 33 and 35)
- Leviticus (episode 59)
- Numbers (episode 62)
- Deuteronomy (episode 65)
- Joshua (episode 73)
- Judges (episode 80)
- Ruth (episode 45)
- 1 Samuel (episode 89)
- 2 Samuel (episode 90-91)
- 1 Kings (episode 99)
- 2 Kings (episode 106)
- Esther (episode 37)
- Job (episode 101)
- Ecclesiastes (episode 52)
- Song of Songs (episode 34)
- Isaiah (episode 4)
- Jeremiah (episode 43-44)
- Lamentations (episode 48)
- Ezekiel (episode 55-56)
- Daniel (episode 2)
- Hosea (episode 108)
- Jonah (episode 31)
- Micah (episode 74)
- Nahum (episode 74)
Deuterocanon/capital-A Apocrypha:
- Tobit (episode 13)
- Judith (episode 22)
- Greek Additions to Esther (episode 37)
- 1 Maccabees (episode 27)
- 2 Maccabees (episode 28)
- 3 Maccabees (episode 53)
- 4 Maccabees (episode 78)
- The Prayer of Azariah aka the Song of the Three Holy Children (episode 2)
- Susanna (episode 2)
- Bel and the Dragon (episode 2)
- The Prayer of Manasseh (episode 6)
New Testament:
- Matthew (episodes 8-9)
- Mark (episode 7)
- Luke (episode 10)
- John (episode 11-12)
- Acts of the Apostles (episode 1)
- Romans (episode 5)
- 1 Corinthians (episode 25)
- 2 Corinthians (episode 42)
- Galatians (episode 72)
- Ephesians (episode 81)
- Hebrews (episode 104)
- 1 John (episode 49)
- 2 John (episode 49)
- 3 John (episode 49)
- Revelation (episode 50)
Pseudepigrapha (Jewish apocrypha):
- The Testament of Solomon (episode 24)
- The Story of Ahikar (episode 14)
- The Ascension of Isaiah (episode 6)
- 1 Enoch (episode 39-40)
- 2 Enoch (episode 61)
- 3 Enoch (episode 86-87)
- Jubilees (episodes 82 and 83)
- The Letter of Aristeas (episode 70)
- The War of the Sons of Light Against the Sons of Darkness (episode 71)
- Joseph and Aseneth (episode 93)
New Testament apocrypha:
- The Protevangelium aka Infancy Gospel of James (episode 29)
- The Acts of Pilate/Gospel of Nicodemus (episode 23)
- Mors Pilati/Death of Pilate (episode 23)
- The Acts of Paul and Thecla (episode 22)
- The Acts of Peter (episode 3)
- The Acts of Peter and Paul (episode 3)
- The Acts of Andrew and Matthias (episode 60)
- The Acts of Thomas and His Wonderworking Skin (episode 66)
- The Life of Xanthippe, Polyxena, and Rebecca (episode 57)
- Questions of Bartholomew (episode 41)
- Resurrection of Jesus Christ by Bartholomew (episode 41)
- The Book of Bartholomew (episode 67)
- Acts of John (episode 46)
- The Acts of Andrew (episode 97)
- Syriac Infancy Gospel (episode 47)
- Infancy Gospel of Thomas (episode 54)
- Infancy Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew (episode 79)
- The Adoration of the Magi (2020 Christmas bonus episode)
- The History of Joseph the Carpenter (episode 103)
- The First Apocryphal Apocalypse of John (episode 68)
- The Second Apocryphal Apocalypse of John (episode 68)
- The Third Apocryphal Apocalypse of John (episode 68)
- The Apocalypse of Peter (episode 75)
- The Apocalypse of Paul (episode 95)
- The Gospel of Philip (episode 92)
- The Gospel of Mary (episode 92)
- The Gospel of Jesus’s Wife (episode 92)
- The Gospel of Judas (episode 100)
- The Greater Questions of Mary (episode Secret 69)
The Golden Legend of Jacobus de Voragine:
- The Life of Saint Nicholas (episode 26)
- The Life of Saint Lucy (episode 26)
- The Life of Saint Christopher (episode 15)
- The Life of Saint Benedict (episode 15)
- excerpts from The Passion of the Lord (episode 23)
- The Life of Saint Sebastian (episode 58)
- The Life of Saint Blaise (episode 58)
- The Life of Saint Agatha (episode 58)
- The Life of Saint Roch (episode 63)
- The Life of Saint Catherine of Alexandria (episode 77)
- The Life of Saint Barbara (episode 77)
- The Life of Saint Dunstan (episode 85)
- The Life of Mary Magdalene (episode 94)
- The Life of Saint Martha of Bethany (episode 102)
- The Life of Saint Margaret of Antioch (episode 102)
Other:
- Historia Trium Regum/The Legend of the Three Kings by John of Hildesheim (episode 30)
- Muirchu’s Life of Saint Patrick (episode 36)
- The Life of Saint Guinefort (episode 63)
- The Life of Saint Mary of Egypt (episode 69)
- The Life of Saint Pelagia (episode 69)
- The Life of Saint Martin by Sulpicius Severus (episode 76)
- The Life of Saint Columba (episode 84)
- The Life of Saint Wilgefortis (episode 94)
- Lives of cephalophoric saints (bonus episode cephalo4)
- Stories of the Baal Shem Tov from The Golden Mountain (episode 96)
- More stories of the Baal Shem Tov from The Golden Mountain (episode 107)
- Solomon and Ashmedai (bonus episode double chai)
- Listener questions (episode 32)
- Bible trivia questions (episode 38)
- Halloween-themed Chick tracts (episode 51)
- Christmas-themed Chick tracts (episode 98)
- Bible Adventures and the Wisdom Tree catalogue of video games (episode 64)
- The Da Vinci Code, the movie (episode 88)
- Guess the Bible character from Persona 5 (bonus episode Persona 5)
- El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron (episode 105)
You can find links to all these episodes with show notes and more on the Apocrypals wiki
I finally finished the first podcast of the season. Just in time for the end of the season!
Krampus plush, complete with crying child (for accuracy)
Very nice
The Alphabet of Christmas, by Benito Cereno and Chuck Knigge, day 3: C is Christkindl, rewarding the nice
The Christkindl, or Christkindel or Christkindlein, is one of the world’s most popular gift-bringers, one of what I think of as the “big five.” This little angel can be found delivering gifts Europe, including the southern and western parts of Germany, Austria, Switzerland, the Czech Republic, Slovenia, Croatia, parts of Italy, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Portugal, Slovakia, Hungary, parts of France and Poland, and even parts of South America and Louisiana.
Besides the German variations of her name, she might be known as Gesù Bambino (Italian), Menino Jesus (Portuguese), Jézuska (Hungarian), Ježiško (Slovak), Ježíšek (Czech), Niño Dios or Niño Jesús (Spanish), or Isusić or Isusek (Croatian), among others. However, all of these names mean some variation of “the Christ Child” or “Child Jesus” or “little Jesus,” which makes it hard to determine which of these figures are meant to be a little blonde angel, and which are meant to by the actual infant Jesus himself delivering gifts, which, as we will see, is a thing.
Another element complicating this distinction is the fact that children are generally not supposed to see the Christkindl. Children know that the Christkindl has been by when they hear a tinkling of bells from the other room. When they run in, all the Christmas business is all set up. One place you might actually see the Christkindl, though, is at one of the numerous Christkindl markets popular across Germany and Austria (as well as elsewhere in Europe).
Christkindl became popular during the Protestant Reformation, intended as a more Christ-centric alternative to the very Catholic Saint Nicholas. Ironically, these days Christkindl is more popular in Catholic areas. Additionally, in America, German immigrants talking about a gift-bringing Christkindl ended up merely providing a new name for Saint Nicholas: Kris Kringle.
C is also for:
- Comet and Cupid, reindeer
- Celeste, an alligator
- Čert and Anděl, the devil and angel that accompany Saint Nicholas in the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Slovenia
- Caspar, a Magus
- Caga Tiò, aka the Tiò de Nadal, the friendly pooping Christmas log
Previous letters here.
Wait, some people regard him as a little angel?
It was always baby Jesus, as in, a baby, who was Jesus. It´s technically his birthday after all. He might look like an angel, he can fly, right? But still.
🤷♀️
Weird question maybe but how do you both like Christmas so much?
I am ex-evangelical in the way that probably lots of your listeners are and now that I don’t have the like church-y part of Christmas I just kind of feel bad about it :/ and you guys have such a genuine love for Christmas it seems like !! So if you have any advice about liking Christmas and not getting bogged down in bad theology feelings i would appreciate !! Or if that’s too big of an ask thanks for the show anyways and I hope you’re listening to Darlene love !!
A number of years ago, Chris did a podcast episode with our mutual friend Elle Collins about the joys of secular Christmas, but it doesn't seem to exist on internet anymore, alas.
But without even diving deeply into the semiotics of the thing, I feel there's much to like about Christmas at an absolutely surface level with minimal religious trappings: lights, decorations, music, food, candy, hot drinks, getting together with friends and family, parties, that kind of stuff. For a lot of people, that kind of thing is enough to enjoy Christmas even if they don't have a religious attachment.
However, if you need something more, the things I like to think about when it comes to Christmas are that it's a celebration at the darkest time of the year, when much of nature sleeps or dies, and in a way, we're forced to confront our own mortality. BUT, Christmas (and other winter holidays; this isn't a Christmas exclusive) reminds us that life and death is a cycle: today is dark, but tomorrow is a little brighter. If you're no longer into the idea of an incarnate deity born that man no more may die, consider the holly, the evergreen. If they can tough out the winter, so can we. "Hope," saith the holly.
And we foster that hope with lights and songs and games and music and good food and good will and forgiveness toward the other people around us. Consider these verses from a favorite song of mine:
All hail to the days that merit more praise Than all the rest of the year And welcome the nights that double delights As well for the poor as the peer Good fortune attend each merry man's friend That doth but the best that he may Forgetting old wrongs with carols and songs To drive the cold winter away 'Tis ill for a mind to anger inclined To think of small injuries now If wrath be to seek, do not lend her your cheek Nor let her inhabit thy brow Cross out of thy books malevolent looks Both beauty and youth's decay And wholly consort with mirth and sport To drive the cold winter away
In that podcast I was talking about at the top, Chris talked about how he loves the very idea of Santa Claus, because he represents humankind at their most selfless. Not just in the idea that there's a powerful figure whose whole deal is giving other people things, but that Christmas morning is likely to be the happiest a kid will feel all year, and parents are willing to give someone else credit for it. It almost staggers the mind, tbh.
On top of that, for me personally, one of the major draws of the Christmas season is the wealth of folklore that comes along with it, but your mileage may vary on that.
Anyway, of course, all this winter stuff only applies if you're in the Northern Hemisphere; sorry if you're in Australia or something, I don't have any metaphors for you.
Second, and MUCH more important, if you get hooked on the whole forgotten background of Christmas legends and lore and weirdness and darkness, you MUST follow @benito-cereno. I'm a snarky dabbler, but Benito is THE MAN for Christmas history.
In fact, he did a full lecture course on Christmas history for youtube during lockdown. He's also working on a comprehensive legendarium that will bring everything Christmas-related into one fascinating grimoire. But here are the videos you MUST watch:
He keeps a ton of his writings on another tumblr, too:
But his main blog is chock full of goodies if you go back through it:
https://twitter.com/misfittorah/status/1596923108614889474?s=46&t=EZv5hL5lF7yigd8GElsx4Q
*EXTREMELY HEAVY SIGH*
I don’t come down to the temple where you work and slap the Ba’als out of your mouth
Are you a fan of the gavlebocken
I am, but my buddy @benito-cereno is always upset when someone inevitably sets it on fire. But I actually think that's a cool new tradition. It's a nice call back to when holidays were all about vandalism and breaking stuff. And I'm a traditionalist.
For those who don't know, the Gavlebocken is the Scandinavian "Yule Goat." It's probably part of the same general grab bag of traditions that Krampus connects to since Swedes used to dress up as goats during the solstice season and dance around from house to house. Nowadays, it's more a symbol of the Christmas season, particularly in Sweden, but anywhere in Northern Europe, really. There's a famous giant one every year in Gävle, Sweden. If you ever see a little straw goat with a red ribbon or anything similar, it's not a reindeer. It's a gavlebocken or Yule Goat or a bunch of other names.
I admit I do not care for it when edgelords burn down a joyful symbol of the season for children because…lols?















