Envy Does Not Kill You, But It Does Torment You.

Is it true fox stole Polaris origin and gave it to Jean? Have you seen the Dark Phoenix preview?

Oh geeezz…

No, it’s not true and yes, I saw the DP’s trailer and???

Let me assure you anon that Marvel has nothing to do with the X-Men: Dark Phoenix movie nor Fox intention was to steal Lorna’s origin. In Lorna’s origin, she killed her parents accidentally and it happens that Jean did too. Lorna was in the airplane and Jean in the car. Both were little girls and manifested their powers sooner than any other mutants. I understand their similarities but we all know Lorna’s origin came first and is canon in the Marvel comics while Jean’s “origin” in the Dark Phoenix is non-canon.

The difference is that Lorna was younger than Jean when she first manifested her power. She was barely 3 years old. Anyway in Lorna’s origin, her mother Suzanna, and her husband, Arnold, were into an argument when Arnold discovered the affair between Lorna’s mother and Magneto. He even did a DNA test and that’s how he knew Lorna was not his daughter.

So whenhe later learned of this affair, he confronted his wife while he was flying her and Lorna on his plane (yup! they were rich people). Upsetting the toddler Lorna whose desperation to make her parents stop fighting caused an early manifestation of her immense magnetic abilities, which caused a magnetic pulse that destroyed the plane and killed her parents…

…as well as giving her hair its iconic green color.:)

Lorna survived the crash and was found by her true father, Magneto, who had been drawn to the location by her magnetic pulse. This is how her parents died and she didn’t mean to. She was so little.

We all know (at least I know for a fact) that in Jean’s origin, in the Marvel comics (Uncanny X-Men #241 where her origin were told), her power manifested when she was 10, when her best friend, Annie was hit by a car. The emotion that Jean felt as she held her dying friend awakened her own latent telepathic powers. This traumatic event left Jean unstable and couldn’t control her newly awakened telepathic abilities.

At the age 11, a psychiatrist recommended to her parents that they consult a colleague of his, Professor Charles Xavier, who was secretly a mutant with telepathic abilities of his own. And that’s where her parents sent her, to Xavier’s School for Gifted Youngsters. Lorna’s origin however is quite different.

Just because 20th Century Fox changed her origin after they established in The Last Stand that professor went to get her at her parents house in order to help her control her ability and that anon, is canon. X3 Jean Grey as a child We’re know Fox’s timelines are all terribly a mess since X-1.

Again, that’s not Marvel’s doing or their proper film. It’s Fox and it doesn’t mean anything knowing the Fox cinematic has nothing to do with canon Marvel comics. The film of Dark Phoenix is just another timeline and is going to be rebooted, anyway. How is Fox stealing Lorna’s origin when early today it was stated by Marvel/Fox that ‘The Gifted’ Season 2 Will Explore Polaris’ Comics Accurate Origin

Here is one quote “The Gifted is going to explore Lorna Dane’s origin story in its second season, and FOX’s series is drawing straight from Marvel’s X-Men comics for Polaris’ backstory.”

You want more links? Here they are. Thanks to my friend who send me those links below.

The Gifted: Polaris’ Origins Will Be Explored in Season 2

The Gifted: Polaris is Close to the Comics, Beyond Magneto Connection

It looks like we’re about to discover Lorna’s origin first since the Dark Phoenix is going to debut Jun 7 2019:)

Stop looking every little (stupid) excuses to downplay Polaris :P

Lately, it seems more people are worried that Lorna will have her parentage taken away ever since the Disney sale went through. As though the twins are going to endanger her position as Magneto’s daughter. Why is this? I don’t understand why Pietro and Wanda being restored means Lorna has to lose. I’m sorry if this comes out sloppy, English is not my first language.

Disney owning the rights back has nothing to do with Lorna losing anything. Besides, now they can use Lorna more often in many things since it seems back then they were protecting her or keeping her away from the eyes of FOX (even though The Gifted is just one of many Marvel TV properties).

I don’t fear or think Disney/Marvel are going to take her parentage away from her. Her parents are dead and Magneto is the only family she has and she was introduced as Magneto’s daughter in her first appearance to begin with. EVERYBODY now knows Polaris is Magneto’s daughter and even The Gifted show hinted at the obvious. Marvel can’t just throw away Lorna’s origins and I don’t think Marvel has done that to any of the characters. The father and daughter Its too ingrained in their characterto deviate from their path. So I don’t see what people are worried about.

As for the twins, I don’t think Disney/Marvel is ever going to retcon the twins back to Magneto even though that’s what they were in the first place…a retcon. So Marvel retconned them once AGAIN.

I’m suggesting as Magneto saying “No” as to he’s not alone and that he still has one biological daughter which is Lorna Dane aka Polaris aka Mistress of Magnetism. Not onlywere the twins retconned from their parentage but they also made the twins non-mutant.

Of course (in people’s minds), now that Marvel Studios can say the word mutant,It would be easy to make them Magneto’s kids, but making them mutants again would be a bit tricky. Even with Disney now owning Fox there’s no reason to change this, especially with Pietro and Wanda’s origins already established that their parents were killed by a bombshell.Magneto and the twins aren’t related in the movies and I don’t think it would work trying to change it, especially with Quicksilver already gone.I don’t think Quicksilver would be in the new Scarlet Witch tv show. We already know that the X-Men are going to reboot after the Phoenix movie. Ever wonder why it’s taking too long to release the New Mutants or Phoenix’s film? Probably Disney holding things back and hopefully Disney won’t destroy it.

Anyway, after discovering Magneto was not their father, they went in the search of their true parentage and this is what they discovered.

They ended up being a creation and Marvel kept Magneto and Polaris out of their relationship. That wasn’t the only twist in this comic. It turns out that Wanda and Pietro have a sister named Luminous. I don’t think I need to highlight the benefits of all this. ButMarvel’s intention was to give Lorna all the room for herself.

As for why their origins are being altered at all, the prevailing theory is that Marvel wants to make the comics more like the movies. Now that both the comic book and movie versions of the characters are no longer mutants, it would seem that’s no longer a problem for them. 

One thing I want you people to be clear after reading this is that I am not the company. I am not the one who destroyed Magneto’s family nor intend for this to happen. But many fans out there (including me) were outraged how Marvel separated the family and eventually people started realizing that the twins never made sense as Magneto’s kids. The twins never liked Magneto and always hated him while Polaris was always the contrary. I believe that’s why Marvel made it official for the magnetism family.

The twins might not be… canonical family. Alternately they are family but not like we wanted them to be. For example Marvel always had Magneto killing his “children”. He killed Pietro in the House of M

He also killed Scarlet Witch in Old Man Hawkeye

Not even in the alternate universe can they get along without killing each other. There is not even one panel showing Magneto killing Polaris.I don’t know what Marvel is implying but I do know with Polaris Marvel has a different view as Magneto’s daughter.

Marvel always has Magneto and Polaris interacting and understanding each other very well (not only physically but emotionally) and without killing each other.

Lorna has always sided with her father despite their beliefs.

Lorna stood by her father fighting their Last Day

Not too long into X-men Blue, she teamed up with her father and helped him to carry out his plans.

They even went out for dinner together like father and daughter would normally do. The twins never had this and don’t ask me, ask Marvel..

Together they linked each other’s power and destroyed Mojo’s broadcast.

Even in the alternate universe, she can be found by her father’s side helping him.

House of M 2005

House of M: Fantastic Four

House of M 2015 was where we discovered Lorna was his favorite child

And as always, she was by her dad’s side while the twins were against him.

They were shown together fighting and helping each other on many different occasions.

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and I wonder how many more occasion there are out there.

But most importantly, Magneto got to meet his daughter when she was a toddle while he met the twins when they were already adults. 

He knew who his daughter was all along but he didn’t know anything about the twins til later on only to find out they weren’t his. What I’m trying to say is Disney/Marvel always put these two bonding together as a father and daughter would be and that she’s obviously the only true heir. On the other hand, Marvel always put the twins at war with their “dad” and hating, killing, dismantling each other. Magneto never damaged Polaris like he damaged the twins. I’m all for Marvel restoring the family back together because even retconning them back, it will never take away Lorna’s right to her father’s (throne) legacy. Lorna is Magneto’s priority because in Wolverine and The X-Men (cartoon), Polaris was the one to carry on his legacy.

@marvelentertainment knows this very well :)