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@arwenadreamer

This blog is mostly Supernatural with a side of everything J2 related. (Quite a bit of Walker and probably soon The Boys.) I love Supernatural, especially the Finale. I love Sam Winchester most, closely followed by Dean. I try to keep negative thoughts out of here, but the occasional episode criticism might slip in. No hate, hate has no room here. I ship wincest in fanon and enjoy the codependent, all-consuming, platonic brotherly love in canon. Ship and let ship. Oh, and I'm a women in my forties from Europe.

This is my Supernatural only blog. And as such my main blog.

I have two other blogs though, that you can give a follow if you're interested.

@arwenawhumpdreamer is for everything whump that isn't supernatural.

@arwenadreamer1 is where I post everything else. Mostly funny or beautiful stuff, the occasional other movie/show content. And of course tumblr shit posts. Because what would life be without those?

Thank you so much for typing out all these questions and answers! ❤ (It helps so much, since I often don't understand everything that is being said in the videos, given that I'm hard of hearing and not a native speaker. )

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Sure thing! It started out with being irritated at people completely misrepresenting what was said, and then just kind of turned into a habit of typing out whatever struck me as particularly funny or interesting.

I really do appreciate the people who go that take the time to record and upload the panels for the fandom, but even for me sometimes it's hard to tell what the guys are saying in them. The echoes, the audience noise, the guys getting overexcited and talking too fast, away from the mic, or over each other? Sometimes I listen to multiple videos over and over and over and still can't figure out a particular bit of phrase - and I'm a native English speaker with no hearing issues, so I can only imagine how much harder it gets.

It'd be far too time consuming to do the whole panels, but if there's ever a specific question you really want done I haven't transcribed, let me know!

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Thank you so much for that offer!❤

Jared: So, really quickly, I'm wearing a shirt today that how do I wanna put this, I'm gonna be - [Jensen moves closer to examine said shirt]

Audience: has buttons?

Jared: Has buttons -

Jensen: That's a nice - that's a nice shirt. [just full on grabs Jared's collar to check the tag, spends a while trying to read it]

Jared: You've seen it before! As a matter of fact, you saw it the last time we were ever on a stage in San Diego before the last ever season we did something. [off Jensen's still baffled expression] We were talking to a Hall of H - So this is the shirt I wore the last ever time we got to come see you guys and I'm gonna be giving it to -

Jensen: Have you worn it since?

Jared: I have not.

Jensen: Why? It's a really nice shirt.

Jared: Because it was so meaningful, it was like a thing. Anyway -

Jensen: Yeah, but it's so meaningful you're gonna give it away?

Jared: I'm gonna donate it to charity for -

Jensen: I want it!

Jared: No, you can't have it! [quick mood shift] I'll send you the link to donate on. [Jensen laughs] It was and is very special to me, but we're hoping to raise some good money for good causes, so we're gonna be donating some clothing and stuff. And there'll be more information soon. You'll have a Hall H picture today [gestures at outfit], people taking photos. Yeah, in the meantime -

Jensen: Yes, and it comes with a free spatula. [audience cheers]

Jared: [throws hands up a bit] Geez, I did not expect that. [pause] It's hard up there!

Jensen: [shakes head]

Jared: We've got to do it together -

Jensen: I'm not doing that!

Jared: Not the spatula! The other, we've got -

Jensen: Oh, not - ! [laughs]

Jared: We can avoid the spatula. But, uh, when the world gets back at it, we should, uh, we should do some stuff about some things.

Audience member: Hot Ones!

Jared: I wanna do Hot Ones.

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tylerposey

I'm not sure how it looks when I hug people, but I'm pretty sure I don't rub cheek on cheek, ear on ear, until I slot into place. I doubt many people do. But Sam and Dean do it constantly. They always hug like this. Sam has this concentrated look on his face in the second gif. Like it's a particularly difficult manoeuvre that doesn't allow for mistakes and he has to get it right on the first try. Like every millimeter has to sit, there can't be any room between them or they won't slot into place perfectly. And that is often followed by a relieved mimic, closing their eyes, gripping tighter. It's just so ... intense ... perfect ... so THEM! Love it!

Question: My question is, the three of us [her and her besties] have been watching a certain daytime serial since we were thirteen -

Jared: Lucky Charms? [does a little dance, checks to see if Jensen was watching]

Question: Yes, let's call it Lucky Charms. And I just want to know if you had to do it all over again, would you spend your time on that daytime serial? And is that something you'd recommend to other people trying to break into the industry?

Question: If you could be fluent in any instrument that you do not play, what would it be?

Jared: I would say piano. I love some piano. Or bagpipe, funny enough.

Jensen: [raises hands, baffled expression]

Jared: I'm not even lying, I'm not even lying. It's just - I know, I know, it sounds weird, but I've seen piano live and I've seen -

Jensen: [incredulous] BAGPIPE?

Jared: [emphatic] Yes! The feeling you get out of - My friend who went to West Point and he happened to be in the marching band there, I guess, and ended up playing for, like, the royal family in Ireland and the Queen of England - he's amazing. And he brought his bagpipe out to L.A. 20 years ago when I was working out there with my other friend Matt. And like the day before they were gonna leave, he's like, 'Oh, I haven't played my pipes yet!' and I was like, 'Yeah, do it!' So he goes out to my balcony and [to Jensen] I've told you this story before a couple times, about ??? He starts playing the bagpipe, and we're just watching from inside and then he finishes one of the songs and he kinda turns around and looks over the balcony and just goes like [mimes waving, giving thumbs up, clapping] 'Thank you, thank you!' and we're like, 'Who's he talking to?' And so we get up from the inside and go to the balcony door and look down. And people were, like, gathered around. People across the street and other buildings had come out, like, sitting there with their tea and coffee, just listening and they were clapping for him. It is so haunting. It is just so visceral. So that would be fun to play but I think it'd be too difficult. Or didgeridoo. [laughs]

Jensen: [again incredulous] Or didgeridoo?!

Jared: I love Australia. I wanna be welcomed there as one of their own. [Jensen cracks up]

Jensen: I would probably agree, I'd say piano would be top of the list. But then, I would couple that with an accordion.

Jared: Poland! We could welcome you in Poland as one of our own! [Jensen cracks up again]

what’s fun about supernatural is the first season would have gone the same if dean had gone missing and john tried to get sam to help him find him

One difference though: Sam would have taken all but 0.5 seconds after hearing the news to pack his stuff and be in the car to go find Dean. No convincing needed.

Oh, and he would not have made time for women in white and wendigos and such nonsense. He would have been single mindedly focused on finding Dean.

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sammyhale

Hey guys. I'm unable to attend Creation's convention in Honolulu, Hawaii in November. I have a gold weekend ticket to sell (with a fantastic seat) and a J2 op. If anyone is interested, please message me. Signal boosts/reblogs are greatly appreciated.

-Gold ticket seat D42: $1,100

-J2 op: $350

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swordofsun

The thing you need to remember about Sam is that his "not all monsters" stance is highly dependent on how much he can't project himself onto the monster of the week.

When Sam feels particularly corrupt or monsterous due to psychic visions or demon blood, then he champions giving monsters a chance. When Sam's feeling good about himself he doesn't give a shit.

He's a fucking disaster when it comes to having any sort of actual moral stance. And that's why we love him.

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ilarual

Yeah this is a thing I've really been noticing, because I've been keeping track of who actually takes the side of the monster of the week in the "not all monsters" debate, and the pattern that emerges is actually incredibly interesting.

Dean's situation is complex, because it becomes obvious he's caught between a clear ethical code he has developed on his own that requires him to weigh the actual merits of the individual case in front of him, and the lessons he had drilled into his head from early childhood that All Monsters Are Bad. he's got these two contradictory voices pulling him in two different directions, but in the episodes where he's the "not all monsters" guy, there's a pretty clear pattern to it. Dean tends to side with monsters who haven't hurt anybody, whether because they're children (Jesse, Bobby John, Emma, etc) or whether it's because they just happen to be a supernatural being who got caught in the crossfire of somebody else's problems (Andy, the rest of the coven in Malleus Maleficarum, etc), that's usually his motivation.

It's not based on the actual biological status of the "monster" in question but more on an assessment of their actions (i.e. humans are monsters if they're killing a bunch of people, non-humans are not monsters if they've never hurt anybody). And of course this isn't perfectly consistent, because as I said he's also clearly got John's voice nagging in the back of his head about the whole thing and that complicates and clouds his ability to be objective. he's caught between a consequentialist ethic he's built for himself based on his own reasoning and morality, and a deontological education from his father. however, for the most part, you can reasonably expect him to default to his own code of ethics if a case comes up that challenges John's deontological view of monsters.

Sam, on the other hand... he's much more likely to say "not all monsters" based, not on any actual ethical code he's developed or a rational assessment of the case in question, but more based on whether he personally relates to the monster in question. Whether it's defending Max in Nightmare because of their shared backstory, championing the plight of ghosts to Molly in Roadkill in a way that's transparently more about him and his own struggle with feeling like his psychic situation is beyond his control than it is about anything he's ever expressed about ghosts in general before or since, or desperately trying to help Jack (rugarou Jack, not nephil Jack) avoid succumbing to his monstrous appetite in Metamorphosis because he's projecting and wants to believe he himself can be saved, this is Sam's general pattern.

Sam wants to save the monster, not because Sam has evaluated the situation and believes there's merit to an argument that this particular case doesn't warrant a bloody end, but because Sam personally relates to the monster of the week for whatever reason. Sam sees himself in the monstrous at times and empathizes, which is a good thing broadly speaking, but it's fundamentally about Sam more than it is about the subject of the episode. and it can run in the other direction, too: this is why Sam comes down so hard on Andy in Simon Said and is so ready to believe that he's absolutely definitely 100% a murderer— Sam at that moment is in a particularly dark place of fearing what's happening to him, and sees himself in Andy. As a result he's very inclined to play judge, jury, and executioner and has to be talked down by Dean.

It's ultimately not actually about the monster of the week, with Sam. It's about what Sam sees of himself in them, and how he subsequently judges himself-in-the-Other depends entirely on how he feels about himself at that point in time. it leads to Sam coming down on the side of the monster of the week somewhat more often than Dean does, because Sam actively and personally relates to their situation more frequently than Dean does, but it does not actually provide him with any kind of coherent ethical framework with which to evaluate the cases they're working on.

Basically what I'm getting at is that it's all vibes-based with Sam.

Excellent meta. With Benny, though, there's also a great deal of plain old JEALOUSY at play. And as we know, jealousy makes both Winchesters lose all reason. Internal compasses don't count anymore.

On another note: Sam is much more likely to give monsters a second chance even after they have hurt people. Because he believes that he got a second chance even thought (as he feels) he didn't exactly deserve it, so why shouldn't others who have done much less get one?