The “Slave Privilege” argument comes from a book called “The Redneck Manifesto” by Jim Goad, who is someone you (and your followers) should be aware of. Goad makes a compelling case that poor white people are the scapegoat for systemic oppression by elites. There are obvious problems with the argument, but it appeals to the impulse within white people to think they’ve had it just as bad. Goad raises many overlooked facts about white-on-white exploitation, but draws the wrong conclusions.
For example, Goad points out that white people were bought and sold as chattel in colonial America along side slaves of African origin, and that a significant portion of whites ended up in the colonies as indentured servants, and that many came into this life after the purging of the debtors’ prisons in England (the English sold those who could not pay their debts into indentured servitude as a means of recouping their debts owed). He also points out that indentured servants were typically treated worse than slaves— a slave was owned for life, so they were worth taking care of, while an indentured servant was like a 5-7 year lease, so fuck it, ride them hard as you can while you’ve got ‘em.
The principle thesis of his book is that currently it is poor, working-class, whites who are scapegoated for societal ills. PoC cannot be publicly demonized in the media the way that poor, undereducated whites can (and white-liberals are most guilty of this).
The danger with Goad’s reasoning is that it is based in fact and extremely well researched. He’s not making any of it up, but he is overlooking so much that tips the scales even further against people of color. Incarceration rates, high-school graduation rates, poverty rates, life expectancy, all make it impossible to draw an equivalency regardless of how much unacknowledged shit white people have suffered at the hands of other whites.
Perhaps most importantly, any white person— Bill Clinton comes to mind— can easily transcend their WT origins if they are smart enough and educated enough. There is nothing inscribed on their bodies that identifies them as “other,” and this is the most critical consideration that Goad overlooks. We all speak a language of race and our bodies all refer to a received code of meaning about race, regardless of how we feel about it. As a white man my body speaks of the success of every other white man, while arab bodies refer to terrorists and the oppression of women and black bodies refer to welfare queens and the guy whose mug-shot was on the 11:00 news last night.
It is worth noting that people like Chuck Palahniuk and Patton Oswalt both cite Goad as an influence, so his ideas are pervasive among those who are generally accepted as progressive white folks.
There is some seriously horrifying shit on my dash right now about “slave privilege” and I think it’s time for me to collect my folks.
If you do not understand how black people have had an absolutely damned history in this country, you need to educate yourself. If you do not understand how black people have one of the worst histories as a race in this country, you need to educate yourself. If you think it’s okay to compare the historic “struggles” of white people to black people, you need to educate yourself.
Black people’s struggles are nothing compared to ours in the present, but the difference is even more heartbreaking in the past. They were slaves for centuries. In slavery, they were mutilated, raped, beaten, killed, humiliated, chained, and brutalized. White people only had to deal with poverty and classism, which is not comparable to anything slaves had to go through. We as white people had it so easy.
There is no privilege to your ancestors being slaves. There is no privilege to being a slave. Slavery is not a privilege because it is one of the most oppressive systems ever. Masses were hurt and killed because of it. There is no privilege in that.
Bringing it up nowadays is not using “slave privilege” to shit on white people. It is reminding white people of our history and how awful we were, usually so that history doesn’t repeat itself. Why shouldn’t they remind us? We have to own our history and understand why it was so awful.
Continuing to be racist doesn’t get anything done.
Learn your history and the history of other people, and use critical thinking to compare it and I hope to God at that point you’ll realize that any idea of privilege in the history of black people is a huge joke. If you still think so, you obviously have no idea what privilege means, or you’re so stubborn you can’t admit you’re wrong, and if that’s the case you can fuck off.
So what I'm getting is
It’s wrong for black people to bring up slavery because you think the blame shouldn’t be placed on the poor white people, but you call blacks being beaten, enslaved, dehumanized, and then continuously being treated like shit long after that ended “slave privilege”
I as a black poor working class woman should stand in solidarity with you because the issue is the rich?
Its not just the rich, its the culture that’s been erasing us and trying to program us for years. Its the stuff that tells me you deserve a job more than me and the commercials and shows and movies that glorify YOU.
Pointing out classism does not erase the things we still face and the racism I still go through on top of not getting by.Racism and classism aren’t mutually exclusive from each other in my case and if you cant recognize that then fuck you.
1. You always have a job
2. You never have to worry about bills
3. You always have a master (someone 2 look after you etc)
4. People feel sorry for you even though you’re privileged anyway
5. People assume you are the one being taken advantage of and so they will see you as the exploited one when really you are being kept alive by someone, you are taking someone else’s food and everything. You can do no wrong.
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the world is such an interesting place there are so many very unusual and completely unfounded ideas that float around like just really bad ideas (not the cute ones that involve getting a stick and poke at a party or trying to learn parcour) and weirdo people I am just fascinated today we have “slave privilege” and “attractive privilege” and I have been trying to wrap my head around those two but they seem to be cut from the same cloth in which some people want to feel sorry for themselves and make everything about their pathetic existences and make their sad lives part of something that systematically exploits them and only them because the world revolves around these people and no one else I can’t even I’ve already wasted too much time trying to unravel this adolescent bullshit it’s not even worth trying to understand just bye ok just bye